Hidden Updates coming back and back...

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  1. Posts : 33
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64b ServicePack1
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    Hidden Updates coming back and back...


    I already posted in How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8
    In this thread after the starting post from Tookeri other updates that had to be deleted were mentioned. I made a list in post 841
    I did not have all these updates on the pc but those that were on it I hid.
    Some of them came back and I hid them again.
    Now today they are back - with some that I had not seen before.

    I made an attachment that shows them and also shows that I hid them again

    Will I have to check Windows Update for the rest of my live?????
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Hidden Updates coming back and back...-knipsel.png  
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  2. Posts : 10,485
    W7 Pro SP1 64bit
       #2

    You can only hide a version of an update. Each time that a new version is created, it will be offered to you.

    Updates for W7 are currently scheduled to stop in the year 2020. If you live beyond that year, then the answer to your question is: "No, you will not be hiding updates the rest of your life".
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  3. Posts : 12,120
    Win 7 Pro x64 / Win 10 Pro
       #3

    UsernameIssues said:

    Updates for W7 are currently scheduled to stop in the year 2020. If you live beyond that year, then the answer to your question is: "No, you will not be hiding updates the rest of your life".
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  4. Posts : 33
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64b ServicePack1
    Thread Starter
       #4

    You can only hide a version of an update. Each time that a new version is created, it will be offered to you.
    And these new versions have the same number????

    Updates for W7 are currently scheduled to stop in the year 2020. If you live beyond that year, then the answer to your question is: "No, you will not be hiding updates the rest of your life".
    That will be a relief :)
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  5. Posts : 10,485
    W7 Pro SP1 64bit
       #5

    Yes. Most of the time, they have the same KB number. It is fixing the same flaw. A few minor things were changed.
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  6. Posts : 33
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64b ServicePack1
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Googling I found :
    install a daemon, that checks for new spyware updates to arrive in the future
    Anybody an idea how to do that?

    On the other hand - when I read the description of KB2506928 (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2506928) I read:
    A link in an .html file that you open in Outlook does not work in Windows 7 or in Windows Server 2008 R2
    I don't see what that has to do with spyware/Windows 10 so why is it advised to be deleted???
    Or would they use the number for another correction?????
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  7. Posts : 373
    Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit
       #7

    Amazone,

    Everyone uses their system for different purposes and has different notions about security. After going through a similar fiasco recently, uninstalling several KBs that MS deemed were "critical" or "recommenced" and had only a general blurb about what they were for... then turned out to be W10-related OR telemetry-related (i.e. setting up Task Scheduler to send telemetry about my computer without my knowledge or consent), I came to the conclusion I no longer need to update W7. AFAIC all the major bugs have been worked out and MS is now installing too many "updates" that are actually EXPLOITS.

    If I come upon a particular problem that needs a patch, I will Google the problem, find the patch, and install it. Otherwise I am done with W7 updating. When my list of KBs to avoid grew from a few to a handful, to more than I want to track, it became clear MS's focus is not not improvement but something quite different.

    I DO use Sandboxie instead of an AV, so am not susceptible to any actual security bug that might be exploited by future viruses spread online. But for anyone tired of the growing list of KBs to avoid, you might consider Sandboxie and a ramp down, if not a complete halt to W7 "updates". At the very least consider only the ones termed critical, and even then read the blurb for each one. If it doesn't have specific language about the bug it's patching, (e.g. this patch fixes elevated privileges when... or this patch fixes a memory leak when.... etc,) you might want to skip it, or at least Google it to see what people are saying.

    I just won't waste my time anymore. W7 runs great on my hardware. I have no problems with it. And Sandboxie keeps me quite safe.

    Good luck.
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  8. Posts : 33
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64b ServicePack1
    Thread Starter
       #8

    Thanks for the advise REMM.
    I did try Sandboxie at one time but could not work with it.
    I will follow your advise about Windows 7 Updates.
    There are 3 types (I translate from Dutch):
    Update for Microsoft Windows (these I guess I shouldn't install)
    Hotfix for Microsoft Windows
    Security update for Microsoft Windows

    I am wondering about the 2 others:
    1. Hotfixes : none of the Hotfixes come in the list of undesirable - so I guess those would be OK?
    2. Security Update : I have often wondered about these - glad I can ask about this here:
    I have Comodo Internet security on my pc and Windows defender is disabled. So do I need the security updates at all????
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  9. Posts : 373
    Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit
       #9

    Unfortunately I personally don't trust how MS categorizes the updates, so if it were me continuing to update I would:

    1. Update as far after patch Tuesday as possible, but prior to the next one. This is to allow bad patches (even for legit fixes) to be discovered/remedied before you install them. It also allows time for people to learn about and spread info on invasive KBs. (When I was updating I actually only updated twice a year, but if I started Googling so many KBs, I wouldn't wait that long. But it's up to you of course.)

    2. I'd personally Google any KB that didn't have a detailed explanation as to what it was for. The invasive patches always have general blurbs. However, many legit patches might have general blurbs too.

    3. An AV and FW is never 100% safe. All AVs and FWs have weaknesses.

    If it was some time ago you tried Sandboxie, I might try it again. I don't know what problems you had (about it being 'hard to work with') but it's virtually transparent. Creates a shortcut to your browser on the desktop, and you just use that shortcut to browse. It runs the browser in the sandbox. If you want to download a file to your desktop, you download as usual, then a popup comes up asking if you want to "recover" it to the desktop (or to wherever you have your browser configured to put your downloads). You click to allow it, which moves it out of the sandbox, then you can run the file through an on-demand scanner if there is any question as to authenticity. Or you can run it inside the sandbox. Sandboxie also has it own very helpful forum.

    Not being pushy, and I get when you try something and don't like it, but just suggesting that giving SBIE one more try might be less trouble in the long run than amassing lists of unwanted KBs, and Googling countless more, one by one, every time you update.

    But good luck either way. And btw, Googling a KB will be faster than coming here to see if it's safe... though links from that search might lead you here.
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  10. whs
    Posts : 26,210
    Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
       #10

    My system runs fine. That's why I stopped all the updates. And I can also care less about the so-called security updates. Who knows what that is. For the internet I use Linux. That's enough security for me.
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