Windows 7 Update disables system restore + new folder entry

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  1. Posts : 60
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    Windows 7 Update disables system restore + new folder entry


    Gents,

    I searched the forum for this but could find nothing about updates that disabled system restore and creates that folder.

    Problem:

    In July I reinstalled Windows 7 and installed the updates. At the time I posted a question that wasn't really answered and it's reared it's ugly head again so I would like to solve this issue. When I installed the updates in July windows update DISABLE system restore and created a folder called (C: ) (Missing) and the protection was ON for that folder while it turned protection for Local Disk (C: ) (System) OFF. At the time I thought it was just a fluke with the new SSD I installed so I simply turned Local Disk (C: ) (System) protection back ON and Disabled Updates.

    Since it's been about 4 months I decided to turn automatic updates back ON and get it back to current in the updates I missed. I didn't have time at that moment to let it search for updates so I ended the process and was going to download/install them later. As an afterthought though I checked system protection again and found that yet again Windows update (simply searching for updates for about 20 seconds.....downloaded/installed nothing) DISABLED system protection, wiped out my restore points and created another folder (C: ) (Missing) so now I have two of those.

    Does anyone have an Idea/Info on why Windows 7 Update (just searching for updates) is turning OFF my system protection for (C: ) (System) and creating that new (C: ) (Missing) folder?

    **Note** The (C: ) (Missing) folder that's being created is using zero bytes in disk space usage and sets itself that way and protection is always ON.


    Update: I did find a way to remove the 2 C: Missing Folders but still need to find out why Windows update is turning off system restore.
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    Last edited by Microbell; 09 Dec 2016 at 01:08. Reason: Update:
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       #2

    Hello Microbell now have you checked as in my pic??
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  3. Posts : 60
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    ICIT2LOL said:
    Hello Microbell now have you checked as in my pic??
    Yup.

    When I set it manually it stays that way.

    If I attempt to run Windows update it will disable that setting, wipe my restore points and turns system protection for C: off.

    I just downloaded the "System Update Readiness Tool" and will run that in the next few days to try and locate what the heck is going on with these update issues.
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  4. Posts : 7,107
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    Hi Microbell,
    That screenshot sent me flying off in another direction
    As C's are showing as MISSING - then system protection is trying to restore from an incorrectly configued system partition/volume path.
    (possible due to your mount point changes)
    Part of windows update is to create a restore point, before making changes if it cannot perform this the updates fail.
    (C will allways be created on a failure like this as its the system default. why 2 = 2 attempts.)

    Roy

    NB lookin at ICIT2LOL screenshot same applies:)
    Last edited by torchwood; 13 Dec 2016 at 08:55.
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    Hum I am wondering now how would we go with loading Partition Wizard and see what opens up in that??
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    Hum I am wondering now how would we go with loading Partition Wizard and see what opens up in that??
    Best Free Partition Manager for Windows | MiniTool Partition Free because Microbell sayd nothing about the sytem not booting up so where from if not those C: drives and why two C: drives??
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  7. Posts : 60
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       #7

    torchwood said:
    Hi Microbell,
    That screenshot sent me flying off in another direction
    As C's are showing as MISSING - then system protection is trying to restore from an incorrectly configued system partition/volume path.
    (possible due to your mount point changes)
    Part of windows update is to create a restore point, before making changes if it cannot perform this the updates fail.
    (C will allways be created on a failure like this as its the system default. why 2 = 2 attempts.)

    Roy

    NB lookin at ICIT2LOL screenshot same applies:)
    Thanks for the reply Torchwood.

    Well let me add some more info to this concerning "mount points" and partitions. My system has 4 HD's and 1 SSD and Windows is the only thing on the SSD so the system partition/volume path is correct according to disk management, registry entries and the Windows Update log. I also work with a "Drivecrypt" hidden container on another HD and did clean some mount point entries in the registry out but left C: alone and this issue appeared way before I had any other software on the hard drive.

    That said you have to take into account that this issue appeared for the first time on a "clean" install of Windows 7 Pro on the SSD with just the SSD connected (NO other drives and Only Windows 7 Installed) and when I first ran Windows update to install them it created that file. Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding of Windows update creating a restore point happens right before you "Install" the updates not while simply searching for and downloading them. (according to Microsoft anyway)

    You would have a point if I was attempting to restore Windows.....but It's simply searching for updates that causes this and I can't fathom why as Windows 7 system restore should not even be involved until the attempt to install the update is initialized.

    **Note** The second " C: File Missing was created this month when I attempted to search for updates as I run with Automatic Updates disable because of the hassle's that have been happening over the last year or so with Windows 7 updates and it's been about 4 months since the Install and first updates where added.
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    How much free space does Windows 7 partition "C" have?
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    So have you tried just leaving the oS drive hooked up and try thr restore point because it seems to me that the other drives are your problem.
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  10. Posts : 7,107
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       #10

    Hi Microbell,

    would you mind posting your CBS log.

    do you have any of these events, on your system.
    Event ID 25:
    Event ID 22:
    Event ID 8193
    if so have a read of this
    https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc..._iY_Yw1mWjOZ3w


    and have you incorporated the 100mb partition into J drive?

    Roy
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