Windows 7 Forums
Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: What Windows 7 .NET versions are required?

08 Mar 2018   #1
Paul Black

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 
What Windows 7 .NET versions are required?

Good afternoon,

I am doing a clean install from a customized install.wim (ISO) via DISM that has the updates:

KB3020369 (April 2015 Servicing Stack Update).
KB3125574 (April 2016 Convenience Update Rollup).
KB3172605 (July 2016 Functional Update Rollup Package).
KB3179573 (August 2016 Functional Update Rollup Package).
KB4074598 (February 2018 Security Monthly Quality Rollup Update).

Now I assume that before connecting to the Internet that I immediately need to run (KB2841134) IE11-Windows6.1-x64-en-us.msu. Is this the right one and are there any further updates needed after installing this?

My question is please, what .NET's do I need to bring the clean install up to date as I can also download and run these offline too.

I know that .NET Framework 4.7.1 is the latest version.

What other .NET versions do I need if any please?
What .NET version(s) are installed already on a clean Windows 7 SP1 please?

The following link for supported client operating systems (32-bit and 64-bit) lists the following .NET versions for Windows 7:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/framework/get-started/system-requirements

.NET Framework 4
.NET Framework 4.5
.NET Framework 4.5.1
.NET Framework 4.5.2
.NET Framework 4.6
.NET Framework 4.6.1
.NET Framework 4.6.2
.NET Framework 4.7
.NET Framework 4.7.1

Thanks in advance.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.
09 Mar 2018   #2
Paul Black

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Good morning,

On further investigation it appears that Windows 7 SP1 (clean install) natively includes version .NET Framework 3.5 whichsupports apps etc built for .NET Framework 1.0 through 3.5.

With this in mind, I assume that I will only need to install the latest version .NET Framework 4.7.1.
Is this correct please?

Thanks in advance.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
09 Mar 2018   #3
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

What do you need is strictly determined by what other software you use. Remember that .NET is just a library used to support other programs, not a program in itself, it may well not be installed without any trouble, or it may be needed for some program. It depends on what do you use, and nobody can know that.

That said, I think your approach is the best, just install all of them and forget about it

To resume, yes, you need both 4.7.1 and 3.5 (bundled with Windows 7 by default) to cover all the cases.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Black View Post
Now I assume that before connecting to the Internet that I immediately need to run (KB2841134) IE11-Windows6.1-x64-en-us.msu. Is this the right one and are there any further updates needed after installing this?
That's the update to IE11, recommended if you're using Internet Explorer, but not strictly needed otherwise. You might want to install other security updates too, but neither is a requirement to use internet.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Black View Post
I know that .NET Framework 4.7.1 is the latest version.
Not for long, 4.7.2 is already in beta
It never ceases to amase me how quickly things become "obsolete".


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Black View Post
On further investigation it appears that Windows 7 SP1 (clean install) nativelyincludes version .NET Framework 3.5 whichsupports apps etc built for .NET Framework 1.0 through 3.5.
.NET 1.0 and 1.1 are totally obsolete and no longer run in Windows 7. .NET Framework 3.5 doesn't runs them. Chances are than you'll never encounter them in any software though. 3.5 runs 2 and 3, and 4.7.1 runs all 4.X versions.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

09 Mar 2018   #4
Paul Black

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Thanks for the detailed reply Alejandro85, it is appreciated.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Alejandro85 View Post
That's the update to IE11, recommended if you're using Internet Explorer, but not strictly needed otherwise. You might want to install other security updates too, but neither is a requirement to use internet.
The only reason that I will be using IE is because I am going to do a clean install as per my post #1 and I will need IE to check for further updates. Otherwise I would remove it from the install.wim prior to installation. It is only because I don't think there is another option to check for updates other than IE?

Thanks in advance.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
09 Mar 2018   #5
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Internet Explorer is not needed at all to check for updates. Just use the control panel applet "Windows Update" and it'll offer to check whenever you want. IE is not a requirement for that. Installations that don't even have IE can still get and install updates.

I only keep it around because some poorly designed programs insist to use its engine (sometimes without real reason), but if you're going for something else, don't bother too much.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
09 Mar 2018   #6
Paul Black

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Thanks for the reply Alejandro85,

I have been Googling and found the following information that implies that Windows updates for Windows 7 can only be done using IE.

https://www.askdavetaylor.com/need-u...ndows-updates/

Here is a snippet from the above article:
Quote:
In some version of Windows one way to get updates is to visit the Windows Update web site. Yes, itís very likely that if you do this youíll need to do it using Internet Explorer. The Windows Update website relies on an ActiveX control to do its job which implies using Internet Explorer. But thatís the only time youíd be required to use IE.
I also found this comment on another site when talking about using Google Chrome to do the Windows updates:
Quote:
Just checked, seems that it only downloads important/critical/security updates. It does so without requiring ActiveX or IE; those are pretty much reserved for the "optional" updates that are (IMO) entirely useless. The funny thing is the ActiveX Control could have easily just been made a standalone executable. They just artificially coupled it to both the site as well as to their browser for- obvious reasons. At least Vista and 7 have the entire thing decoupled. You can get a similar applet for XP (separate, lists available updates, etc)
So I am confused now .

Thanks in advance.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
11 Mar 2018   #7
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

For the first article, it's somewhat outdated in some aspect, incredibly misleading in others, but some important points are that it clearly claims that IE is NOT required at all for updating Windows. Your quote in fact also says that "In some version of Windows", not saying what one. I'll add that, it refers to Windows 98 and ME, and maybe 2000 and XP.
In addition, the Windows Update website some years ago abused of ActiveX controls, that only runs in IE. In 98 and ME, that website was the only way to get updates, that's when the fact was true. Don't remember in 2000 and XP. But since Vista and later, Windows gained a control panel applet that does installs updates without the need for a web browser at all. You only had to use the website if you wanted to download updates and keep their installers.

A few years ago, the Windows Update website was finally fixed and the ActiveX control was completely removed. Right now, you can use not only IE, but also any real browser to access it and download any update. You can even do that from a Linux or Mac computer! I would also bet that an Android browser is also capable of downloading Windows Updates

As for the second quote, I don't know the where reference comes from and without more context is difficult to draw conclussions, but it's also clearly misleading too. And the "At least Vista and 7 have the entire thing decoupled" part indicates that it's not a requirement.

So in short, IE is not needed at all for updating, it's not even needed to be installed, much less used. Not since quite a few years, at least.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 What Windows 7 .NET versions are required?




Thread Tools




Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
Are these OEM windows versions?
Just a queastion about the ISO's in this link: Windows Vista Direct Download Links Are these OEM windows versions? I need OEM. Alle of the windows versions are OEM? And if how can I find myself the right language? Can someone explain how to do it? I don't even know where these numbers...
Installation & Setup
Older versions of IE in WIndows 7?
Can someone please explain how can run an older version of IE on my windows 7 machine in a standalone setup, so that I continue to have IE8, but can use IE7 or (preferably) IE6 selectively for certain websites. The compatibility mode in IE8 has not worked on these troublesome sites. Thanks. (I...
Browsers & Mail
10 Versions of Windows 8
Read more at: link I think 10 versions is a bit over the top now Microsoft.
Chillout Room
Windows 7 Different bit versions; Same Key
Through my university's engineering program I am able to get Windows 7 enterprise for free in the 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I want to be able to install the 32 bit version on my laptop and the 64 bit version on my desktop. However, both versions have the same product key. Will I be able to...
Installation & Setup
How Many Versions of Windows 7
How many editions of Windows 7 will there be? Microsoft still hasn't officially said how many versions of Windows 7 it will sell but, based on what we've seen so far, it looks like "many" is a safe bet. We do know that Windows 7 will be available in 32-bit and 64-bit flavors, and while not all...
News


Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

© Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:15.
Twitter Facebook Google+ Seven Forums iOS App Seven Forums Android App