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Windows 7: Reinstalling Win 7 professional over old Win 7 Professional without

26 Apr 2018   #11
torchwood

W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
 
 

Hi XP VM,

Backing up an infected system is pointless.
(if you clean it up fine, but if you use it in the future then your back at square one)
Not sure which tool your using for this i do know that Macrium has an option to NOT include bad sectors.

I would like you to run this tool, post the 2 reports, and i'll get @DonnaB to look it over

Download Farbar Recovery Scan Tool

PLEASE REFRAIN FROM MAKING ANY CHANGES ONCE YOU HAVE RUN IT


The decistion to move to W10
Ask your guests for thier input
As of a month ago - its still free for W7 users to migrate
I would install it on your NEW SSD

As for your printing/SIM/Bluetooth problems these also appear to stem from incorrect permissions
if the problems started in 2012 then thats a possible infection date, around that time Phisshing was prevalent open up an Email with an attachment BANG your compromissed.

On a happier note
W7 and our sister W10 site have a vast array of tutorials, including setting up a VM and system set-up/ migration.

Roy


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04 May 2018   #12
XP VM User

Windows7 Professional 64bit
 
 
long reply sorry its late

Hi Torchwood!

1000 apologies for letting a week go by with no reply.

Excuse? I didn't see that your response started a new page 2! I have to learn to look for that when checking out "My Posts" for new responses! That and I was replying to other threads too I guess.

Lots to ask you before I actually "do" what you suggest above:

Biggest questions I copied here to ask first----and we can go on fro there so I know what in the world am I doing with FRST tool:

(looked it up and got more links---will share if and when I need to ask you more details or am I getting really by researching more before I leap?) (parenthetical question...no answer to that).

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by torchwood View Post
I would like you to run this tool, post the 2 reports, and i'll get @DonnaB to look it over

Download Farbar Recovery Scan Tool
Great! Can't wait to do it! Tool looks like it does a lot for me pressing one button....

BUT!
BUT!
BUT!



Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by torchwood View Post
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM MAKING ANY CHANGES ONCE YOU HAVE RUN IT
What in the seven galaxies do you mean by that?

I noticed its in all capitals and you never do that unless you really mean it and I have to follow that "or else" dire things happen.

If I do that and then go online to post here the results? Doesn't my HDD make changes to the Browser history? Don't I make changes to the HDD as I write (and save!!!) several versions of the words I use to say "here it is " for the FRST tool results (along with any funny or weird actions that occurred when I did it that I did not know about?)

And what if I run it and it asks me a "question"? I don't know the answer to??? What then? Can I stop it in the middle or does that cause more problems then it solves?

What am I being asked to do when the program runs? DOS Commands? Registry edits?

I am leaping off the cliff here without wings or a paraglider!!

I KNOW you didn't write this:

Quote:
Bjorn • 2 months ago
For 99.9% removal guarantee run CCleaner, followed by MBAM, followed by FRST. Do not reboot between programs - only reboot after FRST has finished. You may need to run these tools in safe-mode (with networking) if your system is heavily infected.
Its copied and pasted from various postings on the website link you so very helpfully provided me above for the downloading of FRST. [I like it when someone shows me which download site to choose and Norton approves of the site too---saves me trying to figure out which has less chance of loading fake, unwanted extra programs on me!]

I thought I understood computer jargon.... I'm just lost here in the details!

CCCleaner I've used on other PC's HATE IT
First thing it does is destroys my one and only memory of what "jobs" I have to do... It clears my desktop of all icons but 4 (the original 4).

It clears all the Browser Cache's (however its pronounced)

It does other things that I will only find out by using the computer and it later asks me for passwords or key codes I don't readily have access to and I have to spend time and effort to figure out why and what happened...

So my sorry result is I'm off the "one button" CCCleaner (I thought it had 3 C's but who knows?) Maybe I used it only on my MAC? I don't recall its over 5 years ago..

MBAM? THen FRST?

So your suggestion I use FRST right now.... is a go? no go? hold off? Discover whatever this guy is posting about? Is he for real? What is going on here?
And the "do not reboot between programs?"

OH OH

That can be a big problem! I'm having memory shortfall very frequently now... Something that runs that light eats up my memory (on the Resource Meter which never works), all I can see is the intro screen with CPU (4) histories and Memory which says 8GB and says its NOT being overused!

Yet I get crashes from all my browsers according to windows because my memory is run out

Here I got one from today just trying to answer some posts I had to turn on/off my computer 3 times... just running ONE word processor ONE Chrome browser...for a few hours typing on it...

Reinstalling Win 7 professional over old Win 7 Professional without-share-others-windows-seven-google-chrome-memory-loss-ps35807.jpg

So I"m certain I'm going to violate "Bjorn" 's suggestion that I : Do not reboot between programs - only reboot after FRST has finished.

* * *

Sadly--reading his and others comments... Maybe I'm too far gone to run FRST...

But I trust those here.. so its your call and others here...

Do I do as Bjorn says (But I don't like CCCLEANER!!) or do I partly do it (Not run CCCLeaner)
Or do I just suddenly Run FRST?

Or do nothing....as maybe I'm infected with something that none of my AV are recognizing and protecting me from??

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by torchwood View Post
Backing up an infected system is pointless.
(if you clean it up fine, but if you use it in the future then your back at square one)
Not sure which tool your using for this i do know that Macrium has an option to NOT include bad sectors.
Macrium is only option as AOMEI is non-functional as it won't let me go beyond the "install new version" screen(OF COURSE it does...else you can't get it back your old copies in an emergency but you have to "agree" to the notice that any detrimental effects are your problem as they have a new upgrade version (which I think is just trying to get $$ from those who have the free version and its a generic notice of warning-------------but who am I? I didn't' design AOMEI and I can't write in Chinese to get a message to them for help from migrating from paid version 2 to paid version 3 they don't tell me how!) Refuse to answer me without my product code) (which is on Email they sent me which is where?? from 2012 conversation I had here on Windows Seven Forum and took both MACRIUM and AOMEI so I would not have to worry that one of them would "fail" me... Good thing I did! AOMEI is out of commission so I could not have saved new stuff reliably for past year or two! Good I had Macrium to still use before the HDD light went on and on and on....... (am I rambling there? sorry)....

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by torchwood View Post
The decistion to move to W10
Ask your guests for thier input
As of a month ago - its still free for W7 users to migrate
I would install it on your NEW SSD
Thanks, I'll get back to this paragraph I want to send you the rest of my questions soon! ANd stop typing!

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by torchwood View Post
As for your printing/SIM/Bluetooth problems these also appear to stem from incorrect permissions
if the problems started in 2012 then thats a possible infection date, around that time Phisshing was prevalent open up an Email with an attachment BANG your compromissed.
YES quite the possibility! But I can tell you from past experience that any weird Emails I don't open. Norton and Malwarebytes prevents ME and them from going to bad sites. If they went to a bad site it would be on the "exception" list and its empty as I have NONE on it. IF guests used it and opened up some weird Emails on their accounts I'd have to ask them and myself why? Why use my machine for that? They are responsible people and if they mess it up they pay for fixing it, type of attitude... SO I don't worry too much when they are using it. They are far more wiser than me (just too busy to help me with this "toy" as they refer to it)....

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by torchwood View Post
On a happier note
W7 and our sister W10 site have a vast array of tutorials, including setting up a VM and system set-up/ migration.
I will look into those...thanks!!..

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by torchwood View Post
Roy
Thanks so very much!

XP VM User

P.S. Malwarebytes auto popped up this when I reloaded the page after shutting down Google Chrome (I guess it does that to protect the computer from accidentally downloading something without instructions on how to use it...)

See if you like this:

Farbar Recovery Scan Tool instructions | Official Malwarebytes Support


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10 May 2018   #13
XP VM User

Windows7 Professional 64bit
 
 

"BUMP" [Image does not work!]

Sorry....

Hi all!

I saw someone else do a "bump" but I don't know what rules you use. Its 5 days. If I should wait 7 days next time I will sorry for bumping early....but I didn't know you had that image on the site!

Generally re-read my post # 12

and my answers to your quoted instructions for me to follow, there in Post #12, and below:

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by torchwood View Post
I would like you to run this tool, post the 2 reports, and i'll get @DonnaB to look it over

Download Farbar Recovery Scan Tool

PLEASE REFRAIN FROM MAKING ANY CHANGES ONCE YOU HAVE RUN IT
I would LOVE to run the F R S T tool and post the 2 reports for you and @ DonnaB

And please explain what the capital letter phrase means?

Thank you! Thank you!

XP VM User
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11 May 2018   #14
Snick

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, Kali, VMWare Workstation Player, OpenVPN
 
 

Hi again XP VM User,

Torchwood means don't try to run repair or similar wording but that's the gist. We need the reports/logs. After reviewing the logs, a fix script can be crafted to correct you issues. It is/they are .txt (text file(s)) which direct FRST to the necessary repairs. SFCFix.exe by Niemiro has the same functionality. FRST creates logs, similar to SURT (system update readiness tool).

I utilize both depending on the nature of the corruption.

Nic

p.s. If you would please shorten your replies some, would make it much easier on us to find/focus on relevant feedback from you.
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15 May 2018   #15
XP VM User

Windows7 Professional 64bit
 
 
I TRIED to do what you suggested!!!

Thank you Snick for informing me of all that information above!

I just RAN RAN RAN! Downloaded the FRST from the site provided by Torchwood

I knew two things from reading this Malwarebytes information:

Farbar Recovery Scan Tool instructions | Official Malwarebytes Support

1. The results will be saved to the same file as I saved the FRST download so I used my desktop and created a new folder to hold everything so I can access it easily

2. Instructions said the computer would not let me save/run it....just press "ok" or "ignore" and go on.

Reinstalling Win 7 professional over old Win 7 Professional without-frst-first-time-failed-run-p1-ps35936.jpg

What happened?

Norton took over! Removed it without giving me any chance to say "no " or "run it anyway".

Norton says its not safe so no matter what.... I won't run it....

Now what?

Reinstalling Win 7 professional over old Win 7 Professional without-frst-first-time-failed-run-p2-ps35935.jpg

Reinstalling Win 7 professional over old Win 7 Professional without-frst-first-time-failed-run-p3-ps35937.jpg

Reinstalling Win 7 professional over old Win 7 Professional without-frst-first-time-failed-run-p4-ps35938.jpg

(P. S. I never got this far before, so I had no idea Norton would prevent me from running it).

P.S.S. I'm a "Norton for Dummies" guy I'm sure there is a way to get it to go around this...but I never asked before and never did it before and worried sick I'm doing more damage to computer doing exactly what everyone says .... don't click and download and run anything off the Internet your Norton, etc programs warn you against running as they will damage computer... Just repeating what I've been warned about for years and years... and now here it comes! I have to make terrible choice to save computer and click "ignore" or whatever the magic button is on Norton or never run the FRST test and never get help script writing for my issue from Snick/Torchwood.


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15 May 2018   #16
Snick

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, Kali, VMWare Workstation Player, OpenVPN
 
 

I don't use or recommend Norton antivirus or Microsoft Security Essentials, or Windows Defender. Windows Firewall is adequate if you run an enhancer Windows7FirewallControl: Sphinx Software. You'll have to temporarily suspend Norton or select IGNORE and permit Windows AV for Farbar to run.


I also don't recommend running two Anti-Virus programs simultaneously. For one, it's not necessary if you use a good AV product. Secondly, the AVs conflict each other and reduce protection


I'm VERY SECURITY MINDED, with that said:
AV-Comparatives Independent Tests of Anti-Virus Software


My recommended AV’s, malware scanner, adware scanner, pup scanners
Avast Free this is what I use, Anti-virus.
BitDefender Free Edition don’t use but highly recommend
Malwarebytes Premium (it’s a free 30-day trial) If you utilize the free trial, it includes MB anti-exploit & MB anti-ransomware & will remove the standalone versions that you can obtain and install through the below links.
Malwarebytes Free this is what I use, one of the best all-around scanners, period.
BitDefender free, don’t use, but highly recommend, there is also a paid version.
SuperAntiSpyware free, this is what I use, there is also a paid version that runs real-time.
ADWCleaner Malwarebytes recently purchased from Tools.lib, available on both websites
HitmanProx32 scan is free, and one time trial virus removal, you can use Revo Uninstaller
to remove it and trial cookies if it finds malware to remove, then you can use the trial again.
HitmanProx64 scan is free, and one time trial virus removal, you can use Revo Uninstaller to remove it and trial cookies if it finds malware to remove, then you can use the trial again.
Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit this is what I use, real-time exploit protection, drive-bys, ssl injection, etc.
Malwarebytes Anti-Ransomware this is what I use, real-time ransomware protection.
TDSSkiller this is what I use, rootkit scanner.
VirusTotal online multi-AV scanner. If you download the app, it adds entry to right-click context menu. You can right-click on the file you wish to scan, and a couple clicks sends the file to them for analysis


Don't have malware on my systems!


Nic
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17 May 2018   #17
XP VM User

Windows7 Professional 64bit
 
 
It worked! FRST results are below Good luck!

Hi Snick and Torchwood!

Apologies for my slowness and lateness!

I have for Torchwood and @Donna the results of the Farbar Recovery Scan Tool FRST:

Here are the two files

FRST.txt

Addition.txt

Hope that helps!


As for Snick!

Fantastic amount of information! I really want to get better AV

But I read/heard/saw you can't use two AV's at same time...

So what good is the huge list? I can't run them all at same time in computer!

So (someone, maybe from Windows Seven Forum...check my 2012 or later posts) suggested I add Malwarebytes to my Norton Internet Security..... and that is the only two I'd ever need....

Saying that Malwarebytes (free or Premium--I paid for Premium as it seems to find things that Norton misses) finds things that Norton misses, so between the two they work to get rid of the viruses...

And Malwarebytes has ransomware protection (I think Norton does too but does not announce it on its front page/desktop).

So I'm posting this to get the FRST results out to everyone.... I hope private information is not in the txt files which I read...

I understand parts of it...

Oh for anyone who is interested
...as I read the FRST results and understand a tiny portion of what they did and mean, I will NOT be removing any old printer!

WHY?

WHY?

Because there are 100+- Pages of prints ready to be printed when the various machines DIED!

There MUST be a way to get those prints to print without the machine working as I don't have the machine anymore---sent it back to get a newer model.

There MUST be a way to upgrade those print images to the newer machine....

So until then, I will not remove the Printer icons and printer data files so I keep them year after year until SOMEONE invents a way to get HP printouts on a newer model machine!

Maybe setting up a virtual machine that runs the printer?

But every time I try to use the printer (any printer!) with my VM or Oracle Virtual Box they all FAIL! So there has to be a way to get printer to work with VM!! Else why would I ever want to use any OS on VM? If I can't print out my results (other things too don't work like scanners or sound, etc etc)

Back to the topic!

So I will write more if you reply to what I suggested above Snick... I just wanted to get this posted for Torchwood and thank you for your Virus Defense information!

Wish I can give more reps but I have to find 9 more others deserving of reps before I can give to Snick or Torchwood or etc etc again... (and of course they won't give it for the games, so I tried, and that's not allowed of course.)

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17 May 2018   #18
XP VM User

Windows7 Professional 64bit
 
 
PS message for Snick re his posting above more detailed reply

P.S. for Snick:

I tried to get the Malwarebytes for

[QUOTE Snick]My recommended AVís, malware scanner, adware scanner, pup scanners
Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit this is what I use, real-time exploit protection, drive-bys, ssl injection, etc.
Malwarebytes Anti-Ransomware this is what I use, real-time ransomware protection.
[/QUOTE]

from Major Geeks site you linked. Sorry..

The first one says "click here" (don't like that but I tend to trust Major Geeks since I've used a few items from there when recommended by the members here at Windows Seven Forum.. and NOTHING happens! So link is dead now....

And the second one, the page (1) you linked to does not have it!
And with 932 pages to search! I really have given up finding that one a bit early to do other things in life like eat and sleep... (I jest.. I can search for it.. But should not a link take me at least to the correct page out of 932?)

Appreciate your list!


I did find LOTS of other programs....but I really check and research before I use them.. I found another one I hope is ok by you as Google Chrome I avoided using for years as it never functioned well...so anything that helps me use it like my other browsers, better access, more ability to delete individual items without strenuous processes are appreciated!


Quote:
Click&Clean for Chrome 9.1.3.3 [ 436 KB | Freeware | Win 10 / 8 / 7 / Vista / XP ] Click&Clean for Chrome is the perfect solution for erasing your private information, browsing history, saved form information, passwords, download history, and cache from your PC.
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17 May 2018   #19
XP VM User

Windows7 Professional 64bit
 
 
PS message for Snick re his posting above more detailed reply

P.S. for Snick:

I tried to get the Malwarebytes for

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snick View Post
My recommended AVís, malware scanner, adware scanner, pup scanners
Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit this is what I use, real-time exploit protection, drive-bys, ssl injection, etc.
Malwarebytes Anti-Ransomware this is what I use, real-time ransomware protection.
from Major Geeks site you linked. Sorry..

The first one says "click here" (I don't like that but I tend to trust Major Geeks since I've used a few items from there when recommended by the members here at Windows Seven Forum.. and NOTHING happens! So link is dead now) ....

And the second one, the page (1) you linked to does not have it!
And with 932 pages to search! I really have given up finding that one a bit early to do other things in life like eat and sleep... (I jest.. I can search for it.. But should not a link take me at least to the correct page out of 932?)

Appreciate your list!


I did find LOTS of other programs....but I really check and research before I use them.. I found another one I hope is ok by you as Google Chrome I avoided using for years as it never functioned well...so anything that helps me use it like my other browsers, better access, more ability to delete individual items without strenuous processes are appreciated!


Quote:
Click&Clean for Chrome 9.1.3.3 [ 436 KB | Freeware | Win 10 / 8 / 7 / Vista / XP ] Click&Clean for Chrome is the perfect solution for erasing your private information, browsing history, saved form information, passwords, download history, and cache from your PC.
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18 May 2018   #20
Snick

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, Kali, VMWare Workstation Player, OpenVPN
 
 

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