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  1. Posts : 84
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
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       #11

    Hi...just pulled the folder on my comp and ran the M/S Tool and those numbers matched the actual OEM stickers on my CD Folder. This is the 1st time I've ever closely looked at mine and it is much more detailed and complete than my wife's. I can't tell you why they didn't rip off mine as well. Possibly the tech reminded himself that his direct boss as well as the Owner are my acquaintances. It's possible he lost his job over this funny business. I guess that'll remain a mystery because here in this country you can catch a man with his hand in your pocket and he'll deny to his grave that he was stealing. We've learned than over the past 10yrs.

    Now I suppose if I want to be actually sure of all this is to shut down and go into BIOS on startup and see what number is there?
    And if so should I still do it on my comp as well?

    Thanks!
    Doc
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  2. Posts : 9,746
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
       #12

    The activation code in the BIOS is a hidden & cannot be revealed. As you can imagine if that was the case then it would be widely known & activation pirating would be rife.

    If the activation code shown in your computer matches the code on the installation DVD you can be assured that it has not been tampered with.
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  3. Posts : 84
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
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       #13

    O.K., I see the logic. Here's what I don't understand then...if the M/S program identifies my Product I.D. and the CD Key and those numbers match exactly what was on the M/S folder for Ann's computer, shouldn't the assessment pass with flying colors?
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  4. Posts : 7,107
    W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
       #14

    Hi Doc,,

    Just because the keys match doesnt mean its genuine
    MS compares the key with other details


    Revisited your thread from 2 years ago.

    Win7 x64 OS Home Premium Problem Solved - Windows 7 Help Forums

    The Mgadiag report was quoting these lines

    Windows Product ID Type: 2
    Windows License Type: OEM SLP

    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table

    Which was the reason the install was non-genuine

    MS automatically pick this up

    All OEM machines have a SLIC table imprinted on the motherboard during manufacturing.
    Activation exploits get around this by introducing another file.
    (im not going into further detail - against forum policy)


    Roy
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  5. Posts : 9,746
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
       #15

    Just to add to torchwood's reply. OEM SLP means Original Equipment Manufacturer & the SLP means System Locked Preinstall.

    This website might help you understand the SLP question.

    SLP Product Keys Explained Foolish IT
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  6. Posts : 84
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
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       #16

    Excellent Post! I've not seen an explanation such as this ever. Now I don't know the criteria used by M/S which would really be helpful to know. Many of these 'OEM's' are running protected scams and they should be exposed for what they're doing.

    My wife and I are old people on very fixed income and when something as expensive as obtaining another operating system occurs because the Product I.D. don't match up to this undisclosed criteria...it 'ain't funny'...it's very punishing in fact.

    M/S extends privileged/licensed monopolies and in turn they sub-out their privilege to (many times unethical) mass production shops. Some have no problem labeling the laws that are supposedly governing themselves right onto the dvd packaging, knowing full well that they are violating those very laws.

    Can you confirm the date (this year???) when M/S is to stop support of Win7? Your answer will have a big part in what I'm going to do next. I've already got my Notebook loaded with Ubuntu Cinnamon and I've just got the learning curve. It appears as though that may be my answer for getting around this M/S licensing crap.

    Thanks again for your input!
    Doc
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  7. Posts : 9,746
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
       #17

    These websites should provide the details for the end of support etc. for Windows 7, that you are asking about & other Windows systems.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/...cle-fact-sheet

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...anuary-14-2020
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  8. Posts : 18
    Windows 7 32bit
       #18

    Whazzupdoc said:
    My Lord...Roy it is. I've taken a snippet of it. Would it be safe to send it to you in this thread? Now please tell me what options (if any) that remain for us? I'm sick at my stomach now.


    Just came across your problam im worried bit now lol i hope even tho im unsure wot ur problam woz i hope it wozt bad sorry randam message you seemed worried
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  9. Posts : 21,482
    Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
       #19

    If I can put in my twopennyworth...

    What appears to have happened here is that the original poster mistakenly installed an OEM system using a retail (or wrong OEM) disk and the Key found using a keyfinder program from the original install.

    The solution is simple (assuming that the COA sticker matches the installed Windows for edition and version) - change the Key to the one on the COA sticker and activate that.

    The complicated bit comes with activation, given the problem with communications stated.

    The way around this is to have a pen and paper handy.

    Use the Telephone Activation option.

    Click on the Start button
    in the Search box, type
    SLUI 4
    and hit the Enter key

    This will get you into the activation system - click on 'see other ways to activate'.
    Enter the Product Key if requested.
    Select 'use Automated phone activation'

    Now note down the block of numbers1-9 on you piece of paper.

    Take the paper and a pen to somewhere with decent phone service, and dial the local number for Honduras ( or you can dial the number for the US if you want!) and when requested, give them the numbers from your computer.

    Copy down the response code - I recommend putting each set on a different line!.

    Hang up, and return to your machine and input that code into your Activate Windows Now page - and hopefully all will be well.
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  10. Posts : 84
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
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       #20

    Really good info and thoughtful. It's in layman's terms so I at least understand what you're saying.

    Here's the various problem factors:
    1) Two identical Win7 Home Prem x64's were purchased at the same time;
    2) Both arrived in their respective packets...nothing appeared tampered with;
    3) I manually wrote down the P.I.D's and the DVD Keys;
    4) I took both computers along with their packets to a computer shop about 1 1/2 hrs away for
    installation;
    5) Day later I returned to pick up the computers and found that my wife's computer packet had been
    tampered and the tag with the important numbers had been stripped from her packet and there was
    only a blue ink marking covering where the tag had been;
    6) A big mess ensued with me accusing their tech and them denying it;
    7) To avoid further problems, I was given another Win7 Home Prof x64 ...with 2 (two) stickers containing
    separate but unattached tags....telling me if a problem should occur, I could reload the O/S and use
    one of these stickers...clearly stripped from another computer (they rebuild computers as a
    company);
    8) A couple of months ago her computer crashed and everything was lost...we had to reinstall her O/S
    from her purchased disk (U.S. reseller);
    9) Seemed to operate fine (until apparently MicroSoft picked up on the fact that something had happened
    that caused a re-entry of the Product I.D....and they flagged her system;
    10) When I've tried to contact them by phone (800 numbers don't work from Honduras) at the area code
    number supplied by M/S...the number is non-functional.

    So even though I want to tell them all of the above and get this straightened out, I can't reach them.

    Ideas???
    Doc
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