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Windows 7: Can Someone Explain How Opatch WIN7 EOS Extension Works?

26 Jan 2020   #21
maxseven

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 6.1 Build 7601 (SP1)
 
 

Looking at "Patches Available for Purchase" now 44 of them does not inspire me to rush-out in a buying frenzy and get a license. I see Java and MS RDP & NitroPDF (which I don't use). I suppose the java stuff is noteworthy but still I think I'll sit tight with Free for a while myself.
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26 Jan 2020   #22
nord899

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by maxseven View Post
Looking at "Patches Available for Purchase" now 44 of them does not inspire me to rush-out in a buying frenzy and get a license. I see Java and MS RDP & NitroPDF (which I don't use). I suppose the java stuff is noteworthy but still I think I'll sit tight with Free for a while myself.
maxseven,

Agree. After all, it has just been a short time since the official EOL for W7.
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28 Jan 2020   #23
maxseven

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 6.1 Build 7601 (SP1)
 
 

Hmmm in the last several days I've been having trouble with a favorite program FileCenter, with which I manipulate PDF files that I've made. I "print" everything to PDF and then stack these PDFs together to organize them. Prepending or Appending a PDF document to another is done simply by dragging one document onto another and clicking OK in the resulting dialog. Well in the last couple days I've had trouble whereby the drag/drop operation results in the dialog disappearing behind the program's "desktop" window. I have to Alt-Tab in Windows to get that dialog to appear and then I click OK and it works. This is very annoying to have to do, and it seems maybe 60% of the time I've had to do that lately.

On a hunch I uninstalled 0patch and the problem appears to have gone away. If true (I will test for a day or two) I may go-back and reinstall and try to find a specific patch that caused this.

The good news I guess is that uninstalling was trivial, just Programs & Features and Uninstall.
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28 Jan 2020   #24
RoWin7

Win 7 Ult 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by nord899 View Post
FYI... joined Opatch Free, the one that claims it will provide you with bug fixes if and when they decide it is imperative, not the paid version which supposedly will do everything but clean your house.

It runs at startup and sits in the tray... Right now it soothes me with a little popup message (when you put your mouse on its icon) that says "Everything is OK."

FWIW.
No good. I need something that will clean the house.
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28 Jan 2020   #25
nord899

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by maxseven View Post
Hmmm in the last several days I've been having trouble with a favorite program FileCenter, with which I manipulate PDF files that I've made. I "print" everything to PDF and then stack these PDFs together to organize them. Prepending or Appending a PDF document to another is done simply by dragging one document onto another and clicking OK in the resulting dialog. Well in the last couple days I've had trouble whereby the drag/drop operation results in the dialog disappearing behind the program's "desktop" window. I have to Alt-Tab in Windows to get that dialog to appear and then I click OK and it works. This is very annoying to have to do, and it seems maybe 60% of the time I've had to do that lately.

On a hunch I uninstalled 0patch and the problem appears to have gone away. If true (I will test for a day or two) I may go-back and reinstall and try to find a specific patch that caused this.

The good news I guess is that uninstalling was trivial, just Programs & Features and Uninstall.
maxseven, Hmmm. I was using a program launcher called Qsel. Loaded it up in Classic Shell, but it wouldn't start up sometimes, but only after I had started using 0Patch... Put it on a button in Total Commander and it loads every single time. I have not removed 0Patch, but perhaps I should do a trial and error to see if that program is the cause or not.
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28 Jan 2020   #26
nord899

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RoWin7 View Post
No good. I need something that will clean the house.
RoWin7, Funny! Try a cat, won't clean the mouse droppings, but at least it will rid you of the mouse!
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28 Jan 2020   #27
nord899

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by maxseven View Post
On a hunch I uninstalled 0patch and the problem appears to have gone away. If true (I will test for a day or two) I may go-back and reinstall and try to find a specific patch that caused this.

The good news I guess is that uninstalling was trivial, just Programs & Features and Uninstall.
maxseven, Well, I just uninstalled, then put Qsel back in Classic Shell Start menu, where it worked as it did before. Then reinstalled 0Patch and tried Qsel again from the Classic Shell and it worked flawlessly. As I recall, it didn't stop working until some time after I had installed 0Patch, so I will leave 0Patch running for now to see if that issue pops up again. (Call me confused)
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29 Jan 2020   #28
maxseven

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 6.1 Build 7601 (SP1)
 
 

Today I've done some more filing with FileCenter and it is working flawlessly again. I'll admit I don't even know the right terminology to try to describe what I was seeing, but "losing focus" comes to mind as if in my case the drag & drop was getting interrupted by 0patch or (more likely) by one of the patches it installed. I've no appetite for fiddling with it atm so will leave it uninstalled for a bit and try again when I have more time.
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29 Jan 2020   #29
nord899

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by maxseven View Post
Today I've done some more filing with FileCenter and it is working flawlessly again. I'll admit I don't even know the right terminology to try to describe what I was seeing, but "losing focus" comes to mind as if in my case the drag & drop was getting interrupted by 0patch or (more likely) by one of the patches it installed. I've no appetite for fiddling with it atm so will leave it uninstalled for a bit and try again when I have more time.
maxseven,

I don't understand it either. My test program Qsel.exe would not load again from the Classic Shell start menu. I fiddled around with it in System Explorer (ending it, restarting it).... wash, rinse, repeat a couple of times and it finally loaded.... I'm a bit hazy about the timeline, but I believe that I clicked on it (once again) and a few seconds later it loaded and worked as I expect it too. Not a clue here.

Now I can live with this, so long as Qsel does load, but is not the process I was expecting, nor want to endure goinig forward. As I want to use 0PatchFREE, I shall not uninstall it this time, but will keep my options open and may well remove it if other processes also get cranky.

Nick
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30 Jan 2020   #30
nord899

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by nord899 View Post
maxseven,

I don't understand it either. My test program Qsel.exe would not load again from the Classic Shell start menu. I fiddled around with it in System Explorer (ending it, restarting it).... wash, rinse, repeat a couple of times and it finally loaded.... I'm a bit hazy about the timeline, but I believe that I clicked on it (once again) and a few seconds later it loaded and worked as I expect it too. Not a clue here.

Now I can live with this, so long as Qsel does load, but is not the process I was expecting, nor want to endure goinig forward. As I want to use 0PatchFREE, I shall not uninstall it this time, but will keep my options open and may well remove it if other processes also get cranky.

Nick
maxseven,

Day 2 with oPatchFREE running and no issues at all with Qsel, which was my canary in the coal mine. Not sure what to say, except that if this continues, so shall I continue with 0Patch.
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