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Windows 7: Servicing Stack 2019-09 kb4516655 & some updates fail clean install.

12 Oct 2019   #11
Snick

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, & Kali
 
 

Thank you for System Spec Update.
Man, why such a hassle to get data and logs.
We can't help you without diagnostics, usually.
Bill


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12 Oct 2019   #12
Snick

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, & Kali
 
 

Cittizin7,
As the CBS.log indicated, here is the relevant part of the WinUpdate.log

Code:
2019-09-13    03:37:25:320    2696    d30    WUApp    WARNING: SetPTextContext called on non-existent id 'updatesAvailable'
2019-09-13    03:37:25:320    2696    d30    WUApp    WARNING: SetVisibleDescendent called on non-existent id 'selectedUpdateDetailSizeArea'
2019-09-13    03:37:25:320    2696    d30    WUApp    WARNING: SetDescendentText called on non-existent id 'selectedUpdateDetailSize'
2019-09-13    03:37:25:321    2696    d30    WUApp    WARNING: SetVisibleDescendent called on non-existent id 'selectedUpdateDetailImportanceArea'
2019-09-13    03:37:25:321    2696    d30    WUApp    WARNING: SetDescendentText called on non-existent id 'selectedUpdateDetailImportance'
2019-09-13    03:37:25:325    2696    d30    WUApp    WARNING: SetPTextContext called on non-existent id 'updatesAvailable'
2019-09-13    03:37:25:325    2696    d30    WUApp    WARNING: SetVisibleDescendent called on non-existent id 'selectedUpdateDetailSizeArea'
2019-09-13    03:37:25:325    2696    d30    WUApp    WARNING: SetDescendentText called on non-existent id 'selectedUpdateDetailSize'
2019-09-13    03:37:25:325    2696    d30    WUApp    WARNING: SetVisibleDescendent called on non-existent id 'selectedUpdateDetailImportanceArea'
2019-09-13    03:37:25:325    2696    d30    WUApp    WARNING: SetDescendentText called on non-existent id 'selectedUpdateDetailImportance'
2019-09-13    03:37:26:349    2696    d30    WUApp    WARNING: SetPTextContext called on non-existent id 'updatesAvailable'
2019-09-13    03:37:28:309    2696    d30    WUApp    WARNING: SetPTextContext called on non-existent id 'updatesAvailable'
2019-09-13    03:37:28:310    2696    d30    WUApp    WARNING: SetVisibleDescendent called on non-existent id 'selectedUpdateDetailSizeArea'
2019-09-13    03:37:28:310    2696    d30    WUApp    WARNING: SetDescendentText called on non-existent id 'selectedUpdateDetailSize'
2019-09-13    03:37:28:310    2696    d30    WUApp    WARNING: SetVisibleDescendent called on non-existent id 'selectedUpdateDetailImportanceArea'
2019-09-13    03:37:28:310    2696    d30    WUApp    WARNING: SetDescendentText called on non-existent id 'selectedUpdateDetailImportance'
2019-09-13
Fix is way more difficult than Repair Install, here's the Details from my OneDrive

Code:
Line 7843: 2019-10-02    18:00:00:161     492    860    AU    WARNING: BeginInteractiveInstall failed, error = 0x8024000C
Repair Install Instructions.docx
Bill

If you need help with that, yep.
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15 Oct 2019   #13
Cittizin7

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit.
 
 

Thanks to SNICK & PAUL BLACK for your assistance!


I really appreciate all the tools to prep for a Startup Repair, or a Repair Install - Yeah, I was fine with that term too, then they changed it!


Anyway, marking this thread as, SOLVED, though I have yet to do the Repair. I think I'll manage, but thanks for the offer to help with this too.



Also, intend on doing some searching on the data you provided where things went wrong. Repair Install can "fix" a lot of problems, but, though I am not an IT professional (self-taught), I like to try and learn something new if I can. If you are so inclined I think I have enough experience to follow an explanation or any information that would make my searching more productive would be appreciated.


My apologies to SNICK for my oversight on providing my system specs up front.


Thanks again!
Cittizen7
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15 Oct 2019   #14
Paul Black

Win 7 HP SP1 64-bit Vista HB SP2 32-bit Linux Mint 18.3
 
 

Hi Cittizin7,

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Cittizin7 View Post
Anyway, marking this thread as, SOLVED, though I have yet to do the Repair. I think I'll manage, but thanks for the offer to help with this too.
You know where we are!

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Cittizin7 View Post
Repair Install can "fix" a lot of problems, but, though I am not an IT professional (self-taught), I like to try and learn something new if I can. If you are so inclined I think I have enough experience to follow an explanation or any information that would make my searching more productive would be appreciated.
Repair Install - Overview

A repair install differs from a clean install in the fact that it ONLY replaces the corrupted OS with a new fresh copy. This means that ALL your User Accounts, Folders, Files, Documents, Pictures, Music, Videos, Data Files, Icons, and any installed programs are left intact. It does however, delete ALL the Window updates, and could possibly affect, sounds, services, visual effect settings and device drivers by re-setting them to default [unusual though]. You cannot do a repair install at boot, in Safe Mode, using a system repair disk, or using an integrated Windows update disk. Basically, this process can ONLY be performed from within the LIVE OS.

The easiest way to perform a Repair Install is . . .

[1] Disconnect any external HDD's.
[2] Create a folder on the Desktop, something like Clean_Inst.
[3] Copy the ISO [DVD or USB files] into it.
[4] Unzip the ISO using something like 7-Zip. Click here => 7-Zip.
[5] Find and double-click the Setup.exe file [follow the prompts].
[6] When you get to the installation screen, select In Place Upgrade [Repair Install].

There are obviously tasks that need to be performed before you start a Repair Install, but I presume from what you have said that you know this anyway. Don't forget to have you Product Key available!

I hope this helps!
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15 Oct 2019   #15
Snick

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, & Kali
 
 

Startup Repair and Repair Install are not the same or similar.
The only part similar is the work repair.

Well, I can explain pretty much everything you need to know. Most of which you will not find on the internet in regards to Windows Update. But, as you wish, proceed on your own.

However, if you wish to continue with our assistance, leave the thread open or, in the alternative, start a new one.

Most individuals don't understand Windows Update. It can be broken and not appear so until something in the link chain that you see quits functioning as it should or all together.

What I do is get you so that Windows 7 works as it should again, In-Place Upgrade or Repair Install, one in the same.
or
Upgrade to Windows 10 Still Free

I like free.

Bill
My System SpecsSystem Spec
15 Oct 2019   #16
Cittizin7

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit.
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snick View Post
Startup Repair and Repair Install are not the same or similar.
The only part similar is the work repair.

Well, I can explain pretty much everything you need to know. Most of which you will not find on the internet in regards to Windows Update. But, as you wish, proceed on your own.

However, if you wish to continue with our assistance, leave the thread open or, in the alternative, start a new one.

Most individuals don't understand Windows Update. It can be broken and not appear so until something in the link chain that you see quits functioning as it should or all together.

What I do is get you so that Windows 7 works as it should again, In-Place Upgrade or Repair Install, one in the same.
or
Upgrade to Windows 10 Still Free

I like free.

Bill

Ok, so I guess I did mark the thread SOLVED prematurely in that I probably should have help through the Repair Install process since the last time I did it was with windows 2k! And because I think I'm seeing some difference of method:
Are all 3 Servicing stack update for Windows needed for Fresh install


For personal reasons, this will probably take me more time than most to do, which is why I searched the forum and was thinking of using the info from the above link, but if you don't mind the time frame, then i would very much appreciate a walk-through.



Let me know for sure if I should open a new thread.


Also, I realized by your reply that I don't know as much as I thought I did about a Repair Install, so thanks for the education/clarifications. In my last post, I was wondering more about the log data you posted. What internals of windows other than WU update were involved? Did I do somthing wrong during the Clean install? Just thought it would be interesting to learn a little about just what the culprit was.


Thanks!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
15 Oct 2019   #17
Cittizin7

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit.
 
 

I have your link from previous post, so I will review that and get started on what I know. Just scanning the following...


Repair Windows Without Reformatting.docx - Microsoft Word Online


Oh, ok, this HELPS!:
Repair Install


I have experience with using Rufus, though I have my original DVD and my drive works.



I haven't used keyfinder or DISM++ yet. And see disc cleanup very low disk which I've never used.


I'll get back to you when I fully read over all this and let you know where I am.


Thanks!
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16 Oct 2019   #18
Paul Black

Win 7 HP SP1 64-bit Vista HB SP2 32-bit Linux Mint 18.3
 
 

Post deleted!
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16 Oct 2019   #19
Snick

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, & Kali
 
 

Cittizin7 better to work with Windows 7 x64 ISO with SP1
Repair Install Better Instructions With Hypertext Links & Video
I can TeamViewer: The Remote Desktop Software with you if you wish
My System SpecsSystem Spec
19 Oct 2019   #20
Cittizin7

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit.
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snick View Post
Cittizin7 better to work with Windows 7 x64 ISO with SP1
Repair Install Better Instructions With Hypertext Links & Video
I can TeamViewer: The Remote Desktop Software with you if you wish

Ok, this is getting overly confusing already.


If I don't want to do the repair on-the-fly from my DVD, Can't I just drag and drop the files and folders from my DVD to my desktop and use setup that way without downloading an iso from the microsoft links in your tutorial? If I'm just running from the desktop, I don't need anything to be bootable, right? How will setup.exe know the root is my desktop?



If I DL using the windows dl tool thing do I select from the OEM set of versions? I ask because I have a cyberpower build and the alternative "Download from the new Recovery Center" option at heidoc says I need to contact my pc mfg. due to my license. So I assume it's considered an OEM license/product, right? I've always gotten this confused!


I would still like to know if I can DL the ISO using the windows-iso downloader in case I ever loose my DVD. What item in the drop down menu do I choose? OEM ...?
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