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  1. Posts : 1,660
    Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
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       #11

    well, it would beat spendign a couple hours futzing with windows 7 isos and rufus and that ****ing efi hack you ahve to do for usb media and aparrenlty disabling usb3 mode.


    downlaoding windows 10 now, as i planend on using the upgrade tool which downlaod it again anyways
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  2. Posts : 1,660
    Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
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       #12

    well it didn't skip asking for a key or what edition to install... I'll see what happens when it tries to activate ovber the internet but I suspect I have to install windows 8 first then do the upgrade to 10 that registers my ahrdware as having a valid windowsw 10 key
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    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
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    FuturDreamz said:
    well it didn't skip asking for a key or what edition to install... I'll see what happens when it tries to activate ovber the internet but I suspect I have to install windows 8 first then do the upgrade to 10 that registers my hardware as having a valid windows 10 key
    Well now you have a working OS you can run ShowKeyPlus and find out exactly what is embedded in its bios. It could have either a W8 key or a W7 SLP marker.

    If there's a W8 key then you should be able to use that when doing another clean install of W10. You may even be able to activate W10 by changing its installed key to the W8 one, assuming its for the same edition as you installed. If not, then do a W10 clean install of the correct edition and use the W8 key.

    If there is a W7 System Locked Preinstall marker, then others such as @SIW2 may be able to tell you how to do an OEM install of W7 that should self-activate from the SLP marker.
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  4. Posts : 1,660
    Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
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       #14

    showkeyplus says "windows 7 OEM marker present in firmware" but doesn't provide a key. I'm taking that to mean that the system recognizes itself as a windows 7 system but does not internally contain a license for either windows 7 or 8? I can check if there's a digital license but since this was formerly a corporate computer I'd expect that if it had been upgraded to windows 10 it used a KMS server.

    I bought a windows 7 pro license off ebay for $12 and I'll see if it gets recognized so i can activate it
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  5. Posts : 644
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
       #15

    FuturDreamz said:
    showkeyplus says "windows 7 OEM marker present in firmware" but doesn't provide a key
    No, W7 never put a key in the bios, just an SLP marker that entitles this PC to run the OEM W7 install. A full key in the bios started with W8.



    The OEM marker means that an OEM install will self-activate without needing to go on the internet. For that ideally you would need the W7 recovery disk for this model of Thinkpad X1 Carbon. @SIW2 may be able to help you modify W7 install media to recreate an OEM install that will activate.
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  6. Posts : 1,660
    Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
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       #16

    Bree said:
    No, W7 never put a key in the bios, just an SLP marker that entitles this PC to run the OEM W7 install. A full key in the bios started with W8.



    The OEM marker means that an OEM install will self-activate without needing to go on the internet. For that ideally you would need the W7 recovery disk for this model of Thinkpad X1 Carbon. @SIW2 may be able to help you modify W7 install media to recreate an OEM install that will activate.
    that assumes I have the key. and as far as i can tell I'm only like one or two characters off on my guesses but i cannot guess the right one
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  7. Posts : 644
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
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    FuturDreamz said:
    that assumes I have the key. and as far as i can tell I'm only like one or two characters off on my guesses but i cannot guess the right one

    The CoA key is an emergency backup for a clean install of W7 using standard MS install media. It was never used in the original OEM install.



    The OEM W7 image that was originally put on this PC has a generic key specific to this manufacturer and a certificate identifying the OEM. As long as the SLP marker in the bios matched the the edition and OEM of the generic key it would self-activate. A clean install with the manufacturer's recovery media, or a factory reset from the recovery partition uses the generic key, an OEM certificate and the SLP marker to determine if the installed W7 should self-activate.


    I understand there are ways to do a clean install of W7 without using a key, then activate it as if it was an OEM install. As I said, SIW2 is the expert on this.

    SIW2 said:
    Alternatively:

    If your machine has the correct slic table in the bios, you could skip entering the key, then after installation, run 7oeminstaller instead of entering your COA key. 7oeminstaller. That would be offline activation.
    Why does Microsoft have distinct ISO files for COEM & Standard W7 OS?


    Failing that, you could test your guesses of the CoA key in ShowKeyPlus. type your guesses on its 'check product key' page until it says you have a valid key. When you get it right it will say its a 'Windows 7 OEM:COA' key and what edition it is for.


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  8. Posts : 1,660
    Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
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       #18

    wow, thta program is a pain because every time you make a mistake it wipes the whole line so you can't just change one letter
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  9. Posts : 1,660
    Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
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       #19

    ...what are the restructions on allowable letters? right now I have a table of 200 posibilities that I'm trying to brute force through https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...nload/windows7
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    W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
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    Hi

    lets try this tool, to see whats currently reporting

    https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=52012

    copy/paste the output

    further reading
    Upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 for Free | Tutorials


    Roy
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