Considering "upgrade" to W10 but concerned about activation

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       #11

    maxseven said:
    My Primary laptop still has the Dell Factory Recovery partition on it! So I SHOULD be able to make (another) copy of that, and boot my Spare Dell with it, and go-thru the Repair Computer and Return to Factory Settings on it, should I not?
    That should work to install and activate W7 on the spare Dell. If not, the Heidoc Windows and Office ISO download tool can download many of the machine-specific Dell system recovery ISOs direct from Dell.

    Microsoft Windows and Office ISO Download Tool
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    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 6.1 Build 7601 (SP1)
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       #12

    Thanks Bree, as that seems easiest (to try the Dell Recovery bit) I will do that first, and try the HeiDoc route if plan A failes.



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    Hmm in looking at the HeiDoc route, it actually appeared easy to try. So I dl'ed the .iso file form my model of Dell computer, installed it to a USB stick, and used it to install Windows and that worked, but....

    When I call-up System in Control Panel it says "Windows is Activated"!!!! The install process didn't even ask me for a Product code!?

    Could it have been that easy?
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  3. Posts : 539
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       #13

    maxseven said:
    Hmm in looking at the HeiDoc route, it actually appeared easy to try. So I dl'ed the .iso file form my model of Dell computer, installed it to a USB stick, and used it to install Windows and that worked, but....
    When I call-up System in Control Panel it says "Windows is Activated"!!!! The install process didn't even ask me for a Product code!?
    Could it have been that easy?
    Yes, it really is.

    A factory reset image from the OEM self-activates without needing the internet. For machines supplied with Windows 7 pre-installed there is a OEM-specific System Locked Pre-instalation (SLP) marker in the bios. This, together with an OEM certificate and a OEM-specific OEM key in the install media allow the system to know that this machine is entitled to run this edition of Windows 7. It therefore activates automatically.

    For machines built with Windows 8 or later pre-installed the system works differently, a full 25 digit OEM key is embedded in the bios.


    Windows 7 OEM System Locked Preinstallation Activation - Windows 11 Installation Guides
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  4. Posts : 848
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 6.1 Build 7601 (SP1)
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       #14

    And to think torch told me this right on Post 2 and I didn't follow:

    first thing to consider is regarding your back-up comp, providing they are both the same OEM and W7 version, your spare should auto activate...
    I wonder now why the refurbisher put Mint on the laptop when they could simply have used the Dell .iso as I just did. Maybe that is an issue yet-to-arise when I attempt to upgrade to W10 (and then I guess to W11).

    In any case, many thanks torchwood and Bree for helping me through this. I'd have never figured this out on my own!
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  5. Posts : 539
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       #15

    maxseven said:
    I wonder now why the refurbisher put Mint on the laptop when they could simply have used the Dell .iso as I just did. Maybe that is an issue yet-to-arise when I attempt to upgrade to W10 (and then I guess to W11).
    Can't say why they used Mint, but at least they seem to be an honest refurbisher. A less scrupulous one would have used an activation hack to illegally activate Windows.

    There should be no problem upgrading to W10. I have upgraded far older Dell laptops than your Dell Latitude E6540. My oldest was a Latitude E4310. W11 would be problem though, your E6540 has a 4th gen Intel processor and TPM 1.2. Minimum requirements for W11 are 8th gen or later and TPM 2.0. That's not to say it can't run W11, but it will be an unsupported device with all that entails.

    Microsoft said:
    The following disclaimer applies if you install Windows 11 on a device that doesn't meet the minimum system requirements:

    This PC doesn't meet the minimum system requirements for running Windows 11 - these requirements help ensure a more reliable and higher quality experience. Installing Windows 11 on this PC is not recommended and may result in compatibility issues. If you proceed with installing Windows 11, your PC will no longer be supported and won't be entitled to receive updates. Damages to your PC due to lack of compatibility aren't covered under the manufacturer warranty.
    Installing Windows 11 on devices that don't meet minimum system requirements

    In order to upgrade from W10 to W11 (there is no upgrade path direct from W7) you'd need to use some workaround to get past the upgrade check for hardware compatibility. Without them it will refuse to install on an unsupported device. Once installed though it should run OK and (so far, at least) it will get all the updates. I have W11 running as a test on my E4310 with its 1st gen i5, for example.
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  6. Posts : 848
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 6.1 Build 7601 (SP1)
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       #16

    Thank you again Bree, this is just wonderful information.

    I think for the time being anyway I will thus upgrade the Spare now LatitudeNo2 to W10 and see if I can become comfortable with the new OS. If the answer is Yes then I will likely migrate my day-to-day programs to that computer given at least one of my keys, FileCenter from Lucion Technologies, is no longer tested-or-supported to run on W7.

    Another key program of mine has been Acronis True Image, and it seems there is some problem with running the latest of THAT program with W11 and some TPM-related issue. I've never used TPM and see no reason for it given I'm one old retired guy who never carries his laptop anywhere but Winter house to Summer house and back!

    Oh, and since you know Dell, I have three E-Dock docking stations which is another reason I wanna stick with the Eseries of laptops if I can. Snap-in, snap-out, they work great for me.
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  7. Posts : 539
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       #17

    maxseven said:
    Another key program of mine has been Acronis True Image, and it seems there is some problem with running the latest of THAT program with W11 and some TPM-related issue.
    I wouldn't know about that, I use Macrium Reflect. That has no problems with Windows 11.
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  8. Posts : 848
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 6.1 Build 7601 (SP1)
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       #18

    Hey folks I updated to W10 Pro today using Brink's tutorial and it went flawlessly. I was further pleased to goto the Dell support site and find that Dell Command | Update, which had STOPPED working for W7, was there for me to download and it completed all the updates I needed.

    Now to learn Windows 10. Many thanks torchwood and Bree for helping me!
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  9. Posts : 539
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       #19

    maxseven said:
    Hey folks I updated to W10 Pro today using Brink's tutorial and it went flawlessly. I was further pleased to goto the Dell support site and find that Dell Command | Update, which had STOPPED working for W7, was there for me to download and it completed all the updates I needed.

    Now to learn Windows 10. Many thanks torchwood and Bree for helping me!

    You'll have to sign up at the sister-site Ten Forums now. You'll find many familiar names there to help you, me included.
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