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Windows 7: Windows Activation Technologies Update for Windows 7.

21 Feb 2010   #51
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there
I still think a lot of people have missed THREE very salient points.

1) You aren't always in a position to be able to connect to the internet -- often for quite extended periods.

2) SECURE networks often do not want machines to (or even ensure that they can't) connect to ANY external network - Internet or otherwise.

3) You might not want to have an Internet connected machine for all sorts of reasons at home for instance -- especially say with young children when you are away from home --there's no reason why say a young 5 or 6 year old can't use a computer for their homework like learning simple spreadsheets etc when you are away -- but I'd certainly like to be around when they use the Internet.

As I've said NOBODY really has problems with LEGITIMATE activation and MS as well as other corporations are entitled to protect "Their Intellectual Property" but it's the "Phoning Home" bit - especially at random intervals that I think is a STEP TOO FAR.


MS could easily block pirated copies of Windows when people attempt to do a Windows upgrade or come to an arrangement with somebody say like Google - when a search is requested via Windows then Google could easily check whether Windows was valid and if not just re-direct to MS who could block the product.

Nearly everybody who uses the Internet uses Google probably at least once a day.

Cheers
jimbo

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21 Feb 2010   #52
manhunter2826

Windows XP - Now Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit).
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by omegatron View Post
I installed it on my laptop.

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...tionUpdate.exe

I think...

Is it normal for the screen to flicker a couple of times when you hit the close button?

If not...

How do you tell if it installed correctly?

More importantly, How do you tell if it installed at all?
Wow! :shocked: that was brave!
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21 Feb 2010   #53
FZ21Z

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 ®™
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by omegatron View Post
BTW: It's not showing up on my updates list. Which is why I ask if there is another way to tell if it is installed...
The online tool shows up in my Firefox plugins page...


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21 Feb 2010   #54
FZ21Z

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 ®™
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Hi there
1) You aren't always in a position to be able to connect to the internet -- often for quite extended periods.
90 days is 3 months, and I don't think I've ever gone 3 days without connecting to the net.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
2) SECURE networks often do not want machines to (or even ensure that they can't) connect to ANY external network - Internet or otherwise.
So how would you go about updating the system?

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
3) You might not want to have an Internet connected machine for all sorts of reasons at home for instance
You might not need it connected at all times, but again, how would you update the system?

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
but it's the "Phoning Home" bit - especially at random intervals that I think is a STEP TOO FAR.
It's all about perspective I guess, as it's easy to put emphasis on it "phoning home" as being something sinister, when all it will do is download the latest definitions and scan the system, which took less than a minute using the online the tool.
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21 Feb 2010   #55
omegatron

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 & x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by manhunter2826 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by omegatron View Post
I installed it on my laptop.

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...tionUpdate.exe

I think...

Is it normal for the screen to flicker a couple of times when you hit the close button?

If not...

How do you tell if it installed correctly?

More importantly, How do you tell if it installed at all?
Wow! :shocked: that was brave!
Wanted to see exactly what this update was going to do.... and what it did is exactly what I'm concerned about.

I am concerned by the fact that my screen turned off-on-off-on when I closed the installer.

I am also concerned by the fact that I cannot tell if it installed, or installed correctly.

My experiment with this update is over. I'm going to reinstall my laptop and not mess with this update.
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21 Feb 2010   #56
dmex

 

This update will be included with SP1 and check your activation status every 90 days after its installation indefinitely.
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21 Feb 2010   #57
omegatron

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 & x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dmex View Post
This update will be included with SP1 and check your activation status every 90 days after its installation indefinitely.
Is there anyway to tell if it is installed already?
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21 Feb 2010   #59
omegatron

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 & x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by trueswine View Post
supposedly it was to be released on or after the 17th. patch tuesday was the 16th, and there have been no updates after the 16th. so i believe it is safe to say no one who didn't go out and deliberately download it received it. as for know if it is installed you can get a list of all patches / hot fixes for 7 from within 7 or there are third party apps for this.
Mine flickered at the end of the update then did nothing. It also doesn't show up on my list of hot fixes/patches.

Tried to install it again with no noticeable changes. Would be nice if M$ at least provided a place you could check for troubleshooting purposes.
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21 Feb 2010   #60
omegatron

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 & x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dmex View Post
Nothing there to help with troubleshooting...

Starting to wonder if there is a problem with the update... especially since it hasn't been offered via automatic updates...
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