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Windows 7: Wat update - yes/no?

10 Mar 2010   #71
Kari

 

I'm trying to control myself but it is surprisingly difficult. As I hinted in my previous post, I do not blame you. Your ignorance is not, I believe, your fault. Be it lack of education or civilization, low IQ or something else, I honestly don't think it's your fault.

I'm proud to be a Seven Forums member, trying to do my best to explain things I know to those who don't, and learn from those who know things I do not know. So let's try to start educating you.

Lesson One: EULA
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A software license agreement is a contract between the "licensor" and purchaser of the right to use software. The license may define ways under which the copy can be used, in addition to the automatic rights of the buyer including the first sale doctrine and 17 U.S.C. 117 (freedom to use, archive, re-sale, and backup).

Lesson Two: Ignorance:
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Ignorance is the state in which one lacks knowledge, is unaware of something or chooses to subjectively ignore information. This should not be confused with being unintelligent, as one's level of intelligence and level of education or general awareness are not the same. The word "Ignorant" is an adjective describing a person in the state of being unaware.
Let's try if you can understand this, I'll try to put it very simple:

You rent a car for a certain fee for a certain time period. After the rental agreement is ended, you are expected to return the car as stated in that agreement. If you do fail to do so, you have to face the consequences EVEN if you do not know what that agreement stated.

Kari


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10 Mar 2010   #72
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

ouch Staple Head got banned....not good..... ok so: EULA it means End User License Agreement.
I don't see why he was debating this so thoroughly.
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10 Mar 2010   #73
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Like it or not, WAT is inevitable - MS has the legal right to impose it. For the time being it is entirely voluntary. So if you don't wish to install it, don't, period. Reading this thread, I see that some folks are just anti-Microsoft. It appears to be OK for a game program or a security program to phone home; but it is not OK for an MS O/S to phone home. Not very logical is it?

That said, I found that that I can require WAT to ask me to phone home through Comodo Firewall. I can also edit the date and time for WAT to phone home via Task Scheduler. I can also uninstall WAT or disable the service - for the present anyway.

Edited to add: I'm sorry Staple Head will not be able to see this post.
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10 Mar 2010   #74
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

Excellent post Kari, Ignorance is very different from Stupidity.
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10 Mar 2010   #75
Tews

64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

And thats the name of that tune... Well said Carl!
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10 Mar 2010   #76
mpcrsc562

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen View Post
ouch Staple Head got banned....not good..... ok so: EULA it means End User License Agreement.
I don't see why he was debating this so thoroughly.
he debated it so thoroughly because he thought he "owned" the software. if he truly wanted an os he could tweak and tamper with to his heart's delight, he'd make his own...

maybe he will now...
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10 Mar 2010   #77
wallyinnc

Windows 7 x64 finally!
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen View Post
ouch Staple Head got banned....not good..... ok so: EULA it means End User License Agreement.
I don't see why he was debating this so thoroughly.
He should not be allowed to use a computer in the first place.

For the record, for the MS-haters: I can surely say nobody here arguing in favor of following the EULA is paid by or associated with Microsoft. They are just reasonable people who follow the law. Arguing you are allowed to brake it because you think you have a right to do so is just moronic.
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10 Mar 2010   #78
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

in my post, I meant 'not good for Staple head' lol. I agree with the both of you mpcrsc562 and wallyinnc
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10 Mar 2010   #79
Mark Phelps

Win7 Pro 32-bit, Win8 Pro 32-bit
 
 

Interesting thread ...

I never cease to be amazed by the "arrogance" of folks that believe that the rules don't apply to them simply because they choose to ignore them.

Saying the UELA doesn't apply because you chose NOT to read it ... is like telling the cop that just pulled you over that the 20PMH speed limit sign in the School Zone did not apply to you -- because you chose not to read it.

See how well THAT explanation gets you out of a speeding ticket!!
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10 Mar 2010   #80
Mark Phelps

Win7 Pro 32-bit, Win8 Pro 32-bit
 
 

As to legitimate reasons to avoid the WAT KB ... my own is to avoid false positives -- the situation where my bought-and-paid-for Win7 install suddenly become "invalid" because of some bug in the WAT code that didn't get throughly tested in the rush to get it "out the door".

So, while I've read that this KB is going to be included in Win7 SP1, I've excluded it for now and will wait and see about false positive reports before I install that SP.
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