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the truth of the matter is that people seem to forget the trouble microsour got into with xp and it's activation scheme where microsour was collecting far more information than they claimed they were. nor do people want to here the truth that microsour makes a 2000% profit per copy of windows they sell.
You want to make a bet? It's optional now, with purpose, but eventually you are going to have to choose: run Win7 with WAT or find another OS.
Most naive comment I've seen or heard.
Most users have nothing to be afraid and worry, so most users accept the facts and install it / let it be installed. These normal users install it latest when it is no more optional (believe me, that day comes sooner than you think!). It would be insane to try to avoid it by using different cracks, only because it checks four times a year if everything is OK.
We have to remember we do not own Windows; instead we have just bought a licence, a permission to use this property of Microsoft as the EULA clearly states. (Windows 7 Official End User License Agreement (EULA).pdf)
As I said, nobody with a legal copy of Windows will have any bigger problems. In some rare cases the user might have to re-activate by phone but it is a peace of cake.
Kari
what part of the fact that we do not want something phoning home do you not understand? that is the main issue. as for the patch being forced on user that do not want it, NOT. as previously stated in this thread kb971033 has already ben cracked and microsoft will fix it and it will be cracked again. when it is included in sp1 hackers will simply rewrite sp1 to not include it. regardless of the eula most user consider the copy of the os that they paid for theirs, and this is not going to change just because microsoft says so.
What part of facts stated in the Windows 7 EULA you agreed to 'obey' and follow when you installed Microsoft's property (Windows) do you not understand?
EULA, paragraphs 4 and 5(a) & (b):
Microsoft does not force us to use Windows. If you pay for the licence, or obtain it in another legal way, Microsoft allows you to use Windows as long as you agree to EULA. If you don't agree, you should IMO use Linux or other OS instead.Windows 7 EULA said:
Windows is not the first OS or application to call home and certainly not the last, quite a number of applications do this. The AV program checks the validity of the licence etc.
I repeat what I've said numerous times: If the user has nothing to hide, what harm can be done and how the h*** would user even notice it, if Windows 'calls home' 4 times year without user even noticing it?
Kari
Well said, Kari. Here are the main points from Section 5b, which I have highlighted.
Windows 7 EULA said:
It does not always have to be something that directly benefits the end user. Microsoft is a commercial enterprise, trying to make profit to its shareholders. As long as using their OS's and applications stay on voluntary basis, they have every right to expect the end users to follow the rules.
It is no more curios than for instance Norton AV checking the validity of your licence every time it downloads new AV definitions, almost daily it is. Or a game update to check if your licence is OK thus allowing you to install the update. If you have chosen to pay for the right to use a Norton AV application, they have right to check your licence is valid.
This is only a variation of things happening all around us, every day. Credit card companies checking applicants before granting a new card, employers asking recruits to do drug tests before offering a job, customs checking the passengers to decide if they are entitled to enter a country. They do not think we are criminal or otherwise not trustworthy; they just need to be as sure as possible.
Same thing with Microsoft. As a market leader, they OS's and software belong to the most cracked ones. They have every right to do whatever they can to protect their property. Luckily these methods used by Microsoft cause no harm, they do not slow down or affect your computer. You do not even notice these checks.
You as an end user have a free choice. You can choose not to use Windows if you disagree with EULA.
Kari