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Windows 7: Repartition When Upgrade From Vista?

11 Jun 2010   #1
Win7rap

Win 7
 
 
Repartition When Upgrade From Vista?

Wife has a preloaded Vista laptop which I'm about to upgrade to Win7 (purchased an upgrade DVD so it's legal). Her HDD was set up with 'system' and 'data' partitions ... the 'system' has 12Gb free and the 'data' has 94Gb free.

I'd like to repartition when upgrade is done (custom install?) ... is that possible?

I saw a post (Upgrading the Upgrade after Activation question) that says something about using a 2nd upgrade of Win7 to clean install (after the initial upgrade from Vista to Win7) ? I don't mind doing that, if it's necessary, but can it be done at the first upgrade?


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11 Jun 2010   #2
wallyinnc

Windows 7 x64 finally!
 
 

Win7rap, I think you are confusing two things, let's try to clarify
- The thread you referenced is basically doing a clean install from an upgrade DVD. That is needed if, for example, you have a copy of Vista or XP (mandatory for y9ou to be able to use the upgrade key without violating the EULA) but want to clean install Windows 7 rather than upgrading. You do a clean install, do not enter the key then do an upgrade on top of the same Windows 7.
But I understand you just want to upgrade from Vista, correct? In that case, none of this is needed.

- Upgrading from Vista only requires running set up from Vista and following the instructions. While a clean install is usually better (to clean the junk we all accumulate over the years like those lost registry keys or the startup program that one has no idea what they do) you might want to upgrade in order not to have to install all your programs again.

- When you say "repartition" I understand you want to change the partition sizes, is that correct? I wouldn't try to do it while upgrading (I don't think it is possible either). Just upgrade and when done you can use windows 7 to shrink any partition you want: Partition or Volume - Shrink or resize them: Partition or Volume - Extend

If you need to move a partition to the left (e.g. shrink the first partition, move the second to its left then extend the second) you will need a third party software like Partition magic. I would avid trying to move the system partition, Windows usually doesn't like it. It is usually OK to extend it to the right.

Finally, a couple of recommendations (without making this tooo long):
- Please please please BACKUP YOUR PERSONAL FILES. Upgrading the OS is like performing brain surgery on yourself. Things can go very wrong and it is better not to find out you can't recover your files if you don't have backups
- Make a system recovery disk for your Vista or a system image in case things go very wrong and you need to revert to Vista.
- Be patient and ask for help if needed. We will be here!

God luck and let us know if it works or if still any doubt

Walter
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11 Jun 2010   #3
Win7rap

Win 7
 
 

First, thank you Walter!

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But I understand you just want to upgrade from Vista, correct? In that case, none of this is needed.
I don't think I made myself clear - I DO want to do a clean install AND in the process, change the partition sizes.


Maybe the problem is my definition of 'clean install' ... I take that to mean a complete format of the C: disk.

Wouldn't that mean wiping out the partition info? Or does that mean only formatting the 'system' partition?

Several months ago (using a different Upgrade DVD - from Dell ... this one is from Amazon) I upgraded my desktop (a new PC with Vista but never used Vista - upgraded immediately) but now, on wife's laptop, I want to do more than just upgrade.

Quote:
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If you need to move a partition to the left (e.g. shrink the first partition, move the second to its left then extend the second) you will need a third party software ...
Actually I want to do the opposite (shrink second then extend the first) but I get the point. 3rd party!

Quote:
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- Please please please BACKUP YOUR PERSONAL FILES.
Have done that (actually very few files - but put them on CD).

Bottom line, still confused.
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11 Jun 2010   #4
Phone Man

Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
 
 

Yes you can re-partition your drive during the install. This will wipe the Vista information and do a "clean" install of Win 7. When using an "upgrade" disk the system will look for XP or Vista installed on the hard drive. After that verification is done you chose "custom" install. Just follow the tutorial.

Partition the Hard Drive in a Windows 7 Install

Jim
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11 Jun 2010   #5
Win7rap

Win 7
 
 

Am really confused now ... one reply says no - next reply says yes

Is a 'custom install' the same as the 'install now' in the link referenced in the last reply?
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11 Jun 2010   #6
Phone Man

Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
 
 

Continue to STEP 5 and select "Custom".

Jim
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11 Jun 2010   #7
Win7rap

Win 7
 
 

I think I see now ... basically using an Upgrade disk and choosing 'custom install' is equivalent to using a full copy of win7.

Right?
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11 Jun 2010   #8
Phone Man

Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
 
 

That is correct. The only difference is the "Upgrade" disk needs to see XP or Vista installed on the hard drive to be sure you are eligible for the upgrade.

Jim
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12 Jun 2010   #9
wallyinnc

Windows 7 x64 finally!
 
 

My assumption you wanted to upgrade was incorrect. So indeed you just need to follow the instructions for a clean install ("custom install" option) and go from there

That is actually the preferred method

Good luck!
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13 Jun 2010   #10
madtownidiot

 

Although doing a custom install, booting from the upgrade dvd, and reformatting your partitions will result in a faster running system, I think it's a good idea for most users to first do the upgrade install whenever possible just to ensure there are no important personal files lost, then once you are sure you have everything (moving the windows.old file to an external hdd is a good idea) go ahead and do a clean install, repartitioning your hdds however you choose. It sounds like a lot of unnecessary hassle but 6 months down the road, when you can't find an important document, you'll wish you had taken my advice
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