Will a recovery disk wipe my hijacked pc completely?

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  1. Posts : 2,562
    windows 10 pro 64 bit
       #11

    After erecovery....Use malwarebytes and MSE scans to make sure your computer is clean... some of those problems can write themselves into the recovery partition
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  2. Posts : 9
    Windows 7 Prof 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #12

    Hi Mike ... Sorry if i'm asking dumb questions but is there no chance of the recovery files being corrupted by the hijackers?

    I need to be 100% sure they will not be able to access remotly when i blitz and reinstall the Win & preload.
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  3. Posts : 19,383
    Windows 10 Pro x64 ; Xubuntu x64
       #13

    Hi McScooter,

    Sorry to hear about your misfortune - you have definately come to the right place to get it fixed.

    Mike is correct : run Option 1. The default factory setting will wipe all existing data from the partition, and then "reinstall" everything back to the partition that was current the day you bought the laptop. Since this pre-dates the trouble you had, it is unlikely that there will then be traces of the “letmein123” on the system.

    However, Ivan has a good point : in the case of complex dialers/keyloggers it is possible that the recovery partition may have been infected. As Ivan suggested, you should scan the laptop once you have recovered from the factory settings. To do this please follow these steps:

    1. Download and install MSE here http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/ - run a FULL scan
    2. Also, as an added layer of protection, run this online virus scanner here Free ESET Online Antivirus Scanner
    3. Download and install MBAM here Malwarebytes - run both the FLASH, and the FULL scan

    Please ensure the virus/malware database are up to date before running the scans (there will be an option in MSE and MBAM to update to the latest definitions).


    Please post back here once you have recovered to factory settings and performed those scan. There is one other security check I would like you to run after you have been able to recover and scan.

    Regards,
    Golden

    EDIT : Also perform these same scans on any backup devices (external USB drives for example) once you get to the point where you want to attach them to your laptop again.
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  4.    #14

    Yes there is a possibility the Recovery Partition itself is corrupted, but the factory bloatware itself is another form of corruption which slows Win7 from being the feather light instantaneous OS it is.

    Here are suggested steps to getting a purrfect clean reinstall without the factory bloatware - allowing you to wipe the entire HD with zeroes to overwrite all factory code, corruption and infection: re-install windows 7

    If you need more time to find a clean installer and want to proceed with the Factory Recovery for now, here are tips to tame the bloatware until you can get completely clean: HP laptop has used up all four primary partitions

    You can also ask Acer Tech Support for a clean copy Win7 Installation DVD as they are actually required under their agreement with MS to provide one but find ways to avoid it so they can enforce the sponsored bloatware which provides their profit margin. Some have reported success by asking, however. If they take a hard line, then don't tell them if you clean reinstall so you can continue getting tech support.
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  5. Posts : 9
    Windows 7 Prof 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #15

    Hi Golden .... I've ran all the scans and the good news is nothing has appeared ... So, what next please?
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  6. Posts : 19,383
    Windows 10 Pro x64 ; Xubuntu x64
       #16

    Excellent.

    Please remember that you need to make the worst assumption that every USB device (external drives, thumb drives, sticks etc.) plugged into the PC are potentially also infected and should be also scanned with the same rigour as the PC. Likewise, if you had other laptops/PC's connected to the same network.

    The last test I would like you to run is a vulnerability check to intrusion on the ports of your router. To do this, please follow these steps:

    1. Open this web page https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
    2. Select Proceed
    3. Select All Service Ports

    The site will now check whether you have any open ports on the router that can be used to gain access to your system. If you get the results as shown in the image, your system is locked down tight, which is the way you want it.

    The last thing I think we should do, is ask one of the security experts here to have a look at my suggestions to make sure we haven't missed anything - I'll ask if anyone is available to do that for you.

    Please keep the following up and running at all times:
    1. Windows Firewall
    2. MSE
    3. MBAM (consider a purchase to have it resident in memory and auto updating)

    Regards,
    Golden
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  7. Posts : 6,349
    Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
       #17

    I have had HP computers in the past with recovery. I never had anything enter the recovery section.
    99.9% safe.

    Turn on Windows Firewall and download MSE. That will give you active protection
    Then a run of Malwarebytes etc. when done installing is a good idea just for peace of mind if nothing else.

    Golden's above posting is right in ext HD or Flash drive being infected is highly likely.

    Mike
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  8. Posts : 9
    Windows 7 Prof 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #18

    Hi Golden ... So i ran the app and all ports were found to be in stealth mode .. Good.
    However Trustealth failed as a ping reply was received back. IS that an issue i should worry about.

    Results from scan of ports: 0-1055

    0 Ports Open
    0 Ports Closed
    1056 Ports Stealth
    ---------------------
    1056 Ports Tested

    ALL PORTS tested were found to be: STEALTH.

    TruStealth: FAILED - ALL tested ports were STEALTH,
    - NO unsolicited packets were received,
    A PING REPLY (ICMP Echo) WAS RECEIVED


    Rgds ,,, Stuart
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  9. Posts : 19,383
    Windows 10 Pro x64 ; Xubuntu x64
       #19

    Hi Stuart,

    No, I don't think its a big issue, but I wouldn't mind a second opinion on that.

    Am I right in saying you got your router from your ISP (or maybe they helped you set it up)? They leave these ports open so they can ping your router when you ring them for support. I close mine entirely so that I don't even seem to exist - its the equivalent of removing your telephone number from the directory to avoid cold calls. If you want to place them into stealth, we can do that via the router - what make & model router do you use?

    Apart from that, you are locked down nice and tight now - its looking good. Whilst we wait for a security expert just to review this, I suggest starting a scan of all your external USB devices.

    Regards,
    Golden
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  10. Posts : 9
    Windows 7 Prof 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #20

    Hi Golden .... You are correct i have a BT 2wire HUB (2700HGV Business HUB) and if it is possible i would like to be in complete stealth mode. The bad news is i now need to start on my WD NAS drive which was connected at the time, i work from home a lot and use this to link in if i'm away on business. Fingers crossed it's not infected ... b
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