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bigmck · Nov 7, 2009

I understand MS is phasing out Outlook Express. I have tried several different clients and all have problems. The lastest is Windows Live Mail. It hangs on startup. I have found several threads on this problem. I would like to stay with OE. Will it work in Windows 7?

kegobeer · Nov 7, 2009

Phasing out? Microsoft hasn't supported OE since XP. OE does not work in Vista, nor does it work in 7.

The only email client I use and have used in the last 5 years is Outlook. It is worth the money.

Qdos · Nov 7, 2009

Opera, the browser that is, has an inbuilt eMail client which works offline and stores your messages locally - you get the choice of POP/IMAP interfacing, and loads of other features like filtering, HTML, etc.

Pocomail is a standalone client which is very similar to M$ Outlook, and is safer than OE or Windows Mail, or there's always Thunderbird.

I've been using Opera for some time, the browser and eMail client are little short of excellent

There's also this, again - comparable to Outlook...

http://www.zimbra.com/products/desktop.html

ignatzatsonic · Nov 7, 2009

I tried and didn't like Live Mail. The other major free competitor for PCs is Thunderbird. I haven't had any significant issues with it on Windows 7 and it can be configured to closely resemble Outlook Express.

You are out of luck on Outlook Express.

dnorris · Nov 7, 2009

with Win 7 Pro or higher, you use OE in the virtual XP mode.

bigmck · Nov 7, 2009

ignatzatsonic said:
I tried and didn't like Live Mail. The other major free competitor for PCs is Thunderbird. I haven't had any significant issues with it on Windows 7 and it can be configured to closely resemble Outlook Express.

You are out of luck on Outlook Express.

I tried Thunderbird and it is similar to OE and I liked it. I need to have two email accounts on it, which it supports. I got the first account to work but the second one gave me an error message that "email account not verified". There are alot of threads on sites about this. They did not help solve my problem. I called my ISP, AT&T and they remotely tried to correct it, but they were at a loss also. Have any of you gotten this error and found a fix for it?

ignatzatsonic · Nov 7, 2009

Not sure if you mean 2 email addresses with a single ISP or email accounts with 2 different ISPs.

I have no trouble with Thunderbird and 2 email addresses (2 accounts) with a single ISP.

bobtran · Nov 8, 2009

bigmck said:
ignatzatsonic said:

I tried and didn't like Live Mail. The other major free competitor for PCs is Thunderbird. I haven't had any significant issues with it on Windows 7 and it can be configured to closely resemble Outlook Express.

You are out of luck on Outlook Express.

Click to expand...

I tried Thunderbird and it is similar to OE and I liked it. I need to have two email accounts on it, which it supports. I got the first account to work but the second one gave me an error message that "email account not verified". There are alot of threads on sites about this. They did not help solve my problem. I called my ISP, AT&T and they remotely tried to correct it, but they were at a loss also. Have any of you gotten this error and found a fix for it?

I experienced this problem with 2 accounts 1:windows live and 2: gmail. I set my accounts to both use gmail smtp for all outgoing email otherwise I get errors.

CFster · Nov 8, 2009

I've been using Thunderbird for years, including with 7.

I have multiple accounts set up, both IMAP and POP. I have almost 30 filters setup on one and over 10,000 messages in a bunch of folders (work). I get almost 200 emails a day. I have several plugins installed, including one to search for and remove duplicate messages.

Nothing beats it IMHO.

bjproc · Nov 9, 2009

you can get windows mail to work in windows 7

everything you need to know is in this link

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/5481-windows-mail.html?ltr=W

Clickster · Nov 11, 2009

I love the Outlook that comes with the Office Suites.

I realize it can be pricey but I think Outlook 2007 with the Office 2007 Suite is the best e-mail client I have ever used.

I use Outlook 2007 like crazy due to a heavy load for my job, it is a very powerful program in my opinion.

Mozilla Thunderbird is a good free simple e-mail client. However, it really can't do much more than that.

bobtran · Nov 12, 2009

Clickster said:
I love the Outlook that comes with the Office Suites.

I realize it can be pricey but I think Outlook 2007 with the Office 2007 Suite is the best e-mail client I have ever used.

I use Outlook 2007 like crazy due to a heavy load for my job, it is a very powerful program in my opinion.

Mozilla Thunderbird is a good free simple e-mail client. However, it really can't do much more than that.

It's actually a far more feature rich email client than you give it credit for. Calendar, tasks, appointments, meetings, email. What more do you want...Outlook doesn't do any more than that either unless you run against an exchange server.

DC187 · Nov 12, 2009

Just thought I'd jump on the bandwagon and sing the praises of Thunderbird.

It's simple, yet it's fast and effective at what it does. In my opinion it's the best client for connecting to POP/IMAP mailboxes.
There's also plenty of useful Addons available for download that makes the experience even better.

However as I said recently in another thread, if you're connecting to an Exchange Server then you can't really beat using the full blown version of Outlook from one of the Office Suites.

Clickster · Nov 12, 2009

bobtran said:
Clickster said:

I love the Outlook that comes with the Office Suites.

I realize it can be pricey but I think Outlook 2007 with the Office 2007 Suite is the best e-mail client I have ever used.

I use Outlook 2007 like crazy due to a heavy load for my job, it is a very powerful program in my opinion.

Mozilla Thunderbird is a good free simple e-mail client. However, it really can't do much more than that.

Click to expand...

It's actually a far more feature rich email client than you give it credit for. Calendar, tasks, appointments, meetings, email. What more do you want...Outlook doesn't do any more than that either unless you run against an exchange server.

Thunderbird can do all that with the help of some third party addons..... Outlook does it all right out of the box.

Also, let's get serious... Lightning is pathetic compared to the calendar in Outlook 2007.
Thunderbird is great for a free e-mail client.

This is just my opinion, I am sure some or maybe many may disagree.

thundercraft · Nov 18, 2009

How to import mail & contacts from WM to TB

ignatzatsonic said:
Not sure if you mean 2 email addresses with a single ISP or email accounts with 2 different ISPs.

I have no trouble with Thunderbird and 2 email addresses (2 accounts) with a single ISP.

Hi,

I have tried for three days to get TB to work with Vista. I am currently using WM and I cannot import my contacts and email into TB

Seeing as how you are using do you have any ideas on how to make this transition? WLM sucks and I am updating to Win 7 so I need a new email client.
I downloaded the Add On "Import & Export Tool" but still cannot get the detail over :cry:

If you have any ideas please let me know>

Thanks

ignatzatsonic · Nov 18, 2009

Thundercraft:

I used Windows Live Mail only for a month or so, about 8 months ago, and went to Tbird.

I don't remember all of the details about transferring mail from one to the other. I do remember that it did not go easily and that I eventually exported as LITTLE AS POSSIBLE from Windows Live Mail. If i did not do that, the resulting folder structure in Thunderbird after the import would be confusing.

If you have 50 mail folders in Live Mail and want to get them all into Tbird in one easy transfer, you might be disappointed.

My suggestion would be to consolidate all your Windows Mail into just a few folders, such as sent and saved. Export just those minimum folders to a safe place, install Tbird, and then import just those few folders from the safe place.

That's how I think I did it.

I cannot specifically recall if you can install Tbird and then use it to reach into Live Mail and grab the mail through an import function. I doubt it. I think you have to export FROM Live Mail and then IMPORT to Tbird.

That's all I recall. There may well be other methods that will allow you to deal with dozens of folders, but I ended up with problems when I tried that. Consolidate if you can and then resort things out after you get Tbird up and running.

thundercraft · Nov 19, 2009

Thank you for the timely comeback

!

I actually tried that. I went in and took one folder only and tried to import it. I chose this particular folder as it had only three emails in it and it did not import from WM. I created afolder on my desktop called "Imported Folder" and I imported from there. Nothing happened :cry:

What really scares me is if I try TB and do not like then how do I get my detail out of there and back to one of the MS applications?

Should not be this difficult

I think it is time Mozilla spent some time on upgrading TB to enable easier migration. Not everyone out there is a computer genuis. This is even more obvious now that Win 7 has no mail client and anyone upgrading will be looking.

Really appreciate the comeback and maybe there will be others that have experienced this problem and will respond through this link.

Thanks again...much appreciated

kbz1960 · Nov 19, 2009

Have you read this?

Windows mail

Import to Thunderbird: Windows mail stores the messages as .EML files. They are normally stored within the C:\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail directory. If you can't find them look in the Tools -> Options -> Advanced -> Maintenance -> Store Folder to find where Windows Mail stored them. You can use the ImportExportTools extension to import .EML files. It lets you select multiple .EML files at the same time.
Export the contacts using the Windows Contacts program as a .csv file. You can import it using Tools -> Import -> Address books -> Text Files
Export from Thunderbird: Export the messages as .EML files using the ImportExportTools extension.

Is windows mail still on your pc? If so you should be able to at least open the files from the source directory of windows mail if windows mail does indeed save in .eml format. You should be able to export your contacts as csv and import them.

thundercraft · Nov 19, 2009

kbz1960

thundercraft · Nov 19, 2009

kbz1960,

Thanks for the response!

I downloaded the "Import Export Tools" extension. I created a new folder in TB and went to C:\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail directory. I selected the files to import and the only thing that happened was that all of the folders in the Windows Mail directory duplicated and nothing imported

I then tried just one folder at a time and the same thing nothing imported and the selected folder in Windows Mail duplicated. I had a mess and had to carefully delete all of the duplicates.

I must be missing a step somewhere but not sure where:huh:. I need step by step instructions to follow and maybe that will help. If there is someone that has recently gone through this procedure maybe they can provide more detail to see where I am going wrong

Thanks for your help

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