Boxed PC games market 'gone by 2011'

Zepher said:

Frostmourne said:

Zepher said:

You know what the coolest thing with steam is? You can copy your entire Steam Folder to an external drive, bring it to a friends house, install the steam client and then point the install to the external drive and then play all of your games without needing to install anything but the Steam Client.

When I load a new OS, I install Steam and point the installer to my other drive where my Steam Games are loaded and then just play.

Steam also auto updates all of your games so you don't need to keep running patches manually.

Steam is junk - if the patch breaks the game you can't remove it. What kind of app forces you to update? Its a waste of bytes. If you can connect. I prefer Games for Windows Live anyday.

You don't have to have it patch the game, you have the option of turning off auto updates.

No, you install the game, update Steam, then you must update the game at least once - when the patch can be 1GB plus. USELESS.

Honestly having a disc is a must when you can. No need to constantly download/redownload/backup your files and your games to have them working.

But what does really get annoying are thoses actual pc games that you buy boxed but require internet for activation (like empire total war on steam) and then when you install the game it is linked to the digital download and become a part of the lists of your digital games !

This is kinda abusive on my opinion and it is only forcing people to move to digital version.


Of course, the responsibles for the disppearence of PC games in stores is mainly because market like EBgames or Wal-mart only display poor main stream title and do not bother to be innovative at all.

And, the fact that since a couple years it's not possible anymore to exchange your pc games in stores, no ones want them because of piracy.

Somehow, people prefer to pay a console 300$ and spend 80$ for each their game rather than having a 1500$ gaming rid and paying their games 50$.

The funny thing is every game I played on console, I also played them on PC and PC games are so much more superior in graphics and gameplay.

A keyboard and a mouse beat any console controller easily, as any machine of 1500$ will beat a 300$ console...a simple question of mathematic !

Sadly we are far away from thoses old gigantic attractive pc games boxes filling out half the place in compucentre stores with games on 8 floppy disk, early 90's. lol

ManOwar2 said:

Honestly having a disc is a must when you can. No need to constantly download/redownload/backup your files and your games to have them working.

But what does really get annoying are thoses actual pc games that you buy boxed but require internet for activation (like empire total war on steam) and then when you install the game it is linked to the digital download and become a part of the lists of your digital games !

This is kinda abusive on my opinion and it is only forcing people to move to digital version.


Of course, the responsibles for the disppearence of PC games in stores is mainly because market like EBgames or Wal-mart only display poor main stream title and do not bother to be innovative at all.

And, the fact that since a couple years it's not possible anymore to exchange your pc games in stores, no ones want them because of piracy.

Somehow, people prefer to pay a console 300$ and spend 80$ for each their game rather than having a 1500$ gaming rid and paying their games 50$.

The funny thing is every game I played on console, I also played them on PC and PC games are so much more superior in graphics and gameplay.

A keyboard and a mouse beat any console controller easily, as any machine of 1500$ will beat a 300$ console...a simple question of mathematic !

Sadly we are far away from thoses old gigantic attractive pc games boxes filling out half the place in compucentre stores with games on 8 floppy disk, early 90's. lol

Solution - don't buy games that force you to accept the SSA - steam subscriber agreement. No steam, just an installer - some have internet activation - Mass Effect 2 doesn't.

Frostmourne said:

No, you install the game, update Steam, then you must update the game at least once - when the patch can be 1GB plus. USELESS.

It's tragic you had a bad experience, but that's all it was--a bad experience.

As someone with some degree of technological knowledge you should know the value of keeping an open mind. It's one thing to say "I had a bad experience with this product a while back when an update broke a game" but another to say "This product is useless because updates break games" or the like.

Imagine if you had stopped using Windows back in the 3.1 or '95 days because it crashed on you once. You'd have missed out on a lot of great advances and wouldn't be enjoying Windows 7 as much as you hopefully do today.

DarkRhystar said:

Frostmourne said:

No, you install the game, update Steam, then you must update the game at least once - when the patch can be 1GB plus. USELESS.

It's tragic you had a bad experience, but that's all it was--a bad experience.

As someone with some degree of technological knowledge you should know the value of keeping an open mind. It's one thing to say "I had a bad experience with this product a while back when an update broke a game" but another to say "This product is useless because updates break games" or the like.

Imagine if you had stopped using Windows back in the 3.1 or '95 days because it crashed on you once. You'd have missed out on a lot of great advances and wouldn't be enjoying Windows 7 as much as you hopefully do today.

Steam isn't Windows - I would persevere and fix the issue with Windows. Steam is useless and boxed games are an alternative for now.

Heres my two cents.
We bought dawn of war 2,
spend hours getting the steam to work, spend hours trying to register the game
spend hour trying to get the windows game thingy to workd
And guess how many hours i have played the game?
0 zero.
Right now i am not convinced steam is for me, i might change my mind, the same i
changed it for vista. While trying my best to make something work for me
i get easily frustrated when all those things you have to do and the final
product still dont work
chris