Seven or XP?

If you're still running XP, your running a DATED OS. time to move on.

It would make Microsoft very happy if we had to buy a new OS every year or two ..
because the old one wore out.

gizbug said:

If you're still running XP, your running a DATED OS. time to move on.

Utterly, completely, inarguably, indefensibly, irrefutably, conclusively, unquestionably, certainly, incontestably, incontrovertibly, indisputably, indubitably, positively, surely, unassailably, undeniably, undisputably, not true.

noyb said:

Trying to figure out how to hack W7 to put all the good XP tools back in ..
that M$ doesn't seem to think we need.
Two hacked - several more to go.

1. Do you have a list of XP 'tools' that you consider good (and necessary) ?

2. Which two have you 'hacked' ?

3. If MS deems them 'not needed', chances are, most people really don't need them.
Some people will want them back.

Just interested to see, no work being done here....

My handful of favorite 'utilities' work well with Windows 7, so I can still do whatever I'd like to do...
My handful of scripts and executables that I wrote work OK,
but I (personally) don't see anything in XP that I 'need' in Win 7, other than the above...
(Maybe I haven't run into it , yet.)

The "Run as Admin" gets to be a pain ITA, but I'll get used to it.

XP Pro MBR - DANGEROUS to edit !!

Position: 0x00000000

CLI=FA, XOR=33C0 code: '0x33 0xC0 0x8E'
Invalid msge (012c): 'Invalid partition table'
Error msge (0144): 'Error loading operating system'
Missing msge (0163): 'Missing operating system'
Bytes at 01b0-01b3 : '0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00'
Bytes at 01b4-01b7 : '0x00 0x2C 0x44 0x63'

XP Pro bytes (01b8): '0xCB 0x14 0xCB 0x14'
___DiskSignature___
Skip over (01bc,d): '0x00 0x00'

Partition Table entry 1 (01be)
=============================
Active partition: '0x80' <===< Boots here
(Cyl,Sect bytes): '0x01 0x00'
Start Cylinder: '0x0001' (1 dec)
Start Head: '0x01' (1 dec)
Start Sector: '0x00' (0 dec)
Partition type = '0x07' NTFS Volume
(Cyl,Sect bytes): '0xFE 0xFF'
Ending Cylinder: '0x03FE' (1022 dec)
Ending Head: '0xFF' (255 dec)
Ending Sector: '0x3F' (63 dec)
LBA Start Sector: '0x0000003F' (63 dec)
Size in sectors: '0x0B1FB3E2' (186627042 dec)

Partition Table entry 2 (01ce)
=============================
Active partition: '0x00'
(Cyl,Sect bytes): '0x00 0xFF'
Start Cylinder: '0x0300' (768 dec)
Etc...

Antman said:

Utterly, completely, inarguably, indefensibly, irrefutably, conclusively, unquestionably, certainly, incontestably, incontrovertibly, indisputably, indubitably, positively, surely, unassailably, undeniably, undisputably, not true.

I disagree though, I believe it is true if your hardware is relatively modern. Old machines from 2002-2003? Sure, XP's great for those, but computers built in the last 2 years? Just for the hell of it, I've had XP on my home machine, and it felt so....eXPired.

KazeNoKoe23 said:

...I believe it is true if your hardware is relatively modern......eXPired.

I hate a ringing telephone. I own the technology because it has a dialpad, not because it has a bell.

I have an old Sony VAIO Piii 866 - it runs a highly trimmed XP install (Z would be proud). It does not BSOD. It serves as my bell filter using a very simple piece of freeware - PhoneTray. If I want your call, I get a custom wav announcement over the sound card. If I do not want your call, the CID is bounced off a black/white list. Black goes to a variety of intercepts, white goes to voice mail. I have a simple TSR that dials out to voice mail via hotkey and I can listen to the voicemails. I do not even turn on the monitor for weeks at a time. Power outages are my biggest problem.

I have a Core 2 Duo install of XP also. It runs MS Access 2000 and a proprietary billing application developed by someone else. This platform is used exclusively for the support of that app and the company that relies on it. This install of XP has every application and service configured exactly like the workstations in the UK that use the billing app. I upgraded the platform from a Socket 478 because some RAM faulted and I had a C2D/mobo handy.

I have yet to work with a platform that did not present challenges or limitations - some profoundly so. But you use the tools you have.

XP may not have a place on the enthusiast or gamer desktop. It has a solid standing on the business desktop.

Antman said:

It serves as my bell filter using a very simple piece of freeware - PhoneTray. If I want your call, I get a custom wav announcement over the sound card. If I do not want your call, the CID is bounced off a black/white list. Black goes to a variety of intercepts, white goes to voice mail.

Ah,
Nice... Thanks for the link, now my computer can do something "useful" for a change...
It doesn't seem to fit in either category:
neither 'old machines from 2002-2003'
nor 'computers built in the last 2 years',
so I guess its OK for me to run either XP or Win7, as I choose.

I wish -I- could have thought of something like PhoneTray while I was programming the HP-3000 (RTE-A)/HayesSmartmodem
to 'reach out and touch' the US Naval Observatory, to transfer GPS readings I just acquired on the KMR (TCMS)...
(Cud've made a buck or two, maybe.)

XP may not have a place on the enthusiast or gamer desktop.
It has a solid standing on the business desktop.

Given that, this thread should probably be wiped, but its fun visiting here - learn a lot...