Computer doesn't start cant get into bios or advanced start up setting

marimuda · Sep 17, 2012

When i got home today didn't my computer work, my girlfriend has been the last one using it. So don't know how things were just before the shutdown or anything.

when i turn on the computer i get to the screen where "touch bios" is and where i can see the options like Bios settings, boot menu, xpress recovery.
but i cant press anything, and after about two seconds on that screen the PC shuts down again.

The keyword lights up so there is a responds on it, but just doesn't work to press anything before it shuts down.

I've got BSOD upto several times a day for a few months time.
believe that my computer is affected by some virus or something is delaying my computer. might be an combination of several things.

I got no external things hugged up to the stationeer computer right now.

it is a windows 7 x64 machine.

usually when i get issues i can access advanced boot up or bios, but can neither in this case..
I wonder if it might be a hardware issue.
If so what do you think it might be?
and how can i diagnose the problem when i can't do anything with the machine?

thanks
/jakup

proudtobegreek · Sep 17, 2012

Would you please fill in,your systems specifications?

Layback Bear · Sep 17, 2012

Yes I agree we need your specs.((My System Specs)). Use this little program to help.
Speccy - System Information - Free Download

Then use User CP at the top of the page to install them so we can see them with your every post.

gregrocker · Sep 17, 2012

Start working through these steps for Troubleshooting Windows 7 Failure to Boot.

Check in BIOS setup to see if there is an EFI boot disk in BIOS Boot order listings. If so you have a EFI BIOS the MBR repair steps don't apply. Check also that HD is detected in BIOS.

marimuda · Sep 17, 2012

this is a custom build pc and since i haven't written the information down. will write the specs i remember.

Ocz vertex 3 256 gb.
Intel Core i7-2600 k /w Noctua NH-D14
gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD4-B3 (rev. 1.0)
Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 2GB
can't remember ram. some 1333 4x4 gb cl8 some cheap model.
Windows 7 has had problems updating lately, keeps asking for restart and when it tries to update it says that the update fails and then repeats the process. (for about 3 weeks).
But windows 7 64 bit registered.
Bitdefender 2013

Those are things i know in my head.
I've been suspicious about the ram since i bought the pc, since I've had BSOD no matter if I've reinstalled windows, formated the computer, but as software problems occur the bsod happens more frequently, + never been able to get mini dump files of the crases since the Bsod doesn't do the thing it is suppose to, create the reports and those numbers that usually count in the bottom.
...

I can't get into the bios nor advanced start up, since my keyboard doesn't seem to function before the computer shuts down again. I can't press "f8", " delete" or the shortcuts that i'm aware off. The computer shuts down before I am able to do so.

proudtobegreek · Sep 17, 2012

Do you have any spare memory module,to try to boot with?If not,use only one stick...

gregrocker · Sep 17, 2012

Test the RAM from the Troubleshooting steps. Memtest CD should self-boot. Rescue disks also recommended in tutorial should also boot themselves. You can get memtest, rescue disk and Partition Wizard all on Ultimate Boot CD which also should boot itself and can also boot from flash: Ultimate Boot CD (UBCD) from a USB flash drive | USB Pen Drive Linux.

If it continues to fail to boot disk try resetting the CMOS: Clear CMOS - 3 Ways to Clear the CMOS - Reset BIOS.

As a last resort you can also move HD to another PC to rescue the data, wipe it with Diskpart Clean Command which should force installer to boot itself to Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7. UBCD also has wiping tools.

marimuda · Sep 18, 2012

Thanks for the responds.
a little update on my ram, after i opened my rig i saw which once i have.
corsair vengeance 1600 cl8

I've tried to memtest usb. wasn't able to get any boot out of it.
Tried Ultimate boot cd, didn't get any boot out of it.
Tried single ram module. didn't work.
reset the Cmos through unplugging the battery and setting it in again. Not any effect either.

I get to the gigabyte touch bios technology background image when i turn on the computer (the first image that gets shown) then i see the options that i can choose, like bios, boot settings etc. But i can't press on any of them. trying but not any responds. and after that image is suppose change for next step of the process the computer just shuts off.

What kind of issues usually do such things?.
Motherboard malfunction ?
Ram?

Or is it possible that a software can be the fault of this? (virus)

gregrocker · Sep 18, 2012

You need to be able to boot a disk or flash stick to do the repairs.

Did you try resetting BIOS?

Are you writing the sticks correctly and using the correct key to trigger stick to boot, under USB, Removable or HD?

marimuda · Sep 18, 2012

Yes i tried to reset the bios.
Tried the check if my computer automatically went into the USB boot. but it didn't happen. So i am basically stuck with my primary boot which is my C: drive (ocz vertex 3).

gregrocker · Sep 18, 2012

You must choose the USB stick to boot after being absolutely sure you formatted and wrote to stick correctly following the instructions given.

To choose the stick tap the one-time BIOS Boot Menu key at boot to choose it.

Please fill in your System Specs in bottom left corner of your post.

marimuda · Sep 18, 2012

@gregrocker
I'm not able to get into any settings, the computer shuts down before i am able to do anything. So i'm not able to change the boot frequency.

proudtobegreek · Sep 18, 2012

Could it be a grounding issue?Could you run the board without the case,while trying all mentioned suggestions?

gregrocker · Sep 19, 2012

Use one of the other methods to Clear CMOS - 3 Ways to Clear the CMOS - Reset BIOS.

You must be utterly thorough and not miss a single step, read everything until you understand it or ask back.

marimuda · Sep 19, 2012

Hmm, i tried to reset the CMOS by connecting the jumper pins by using some metal to connect them for half a minute or so.
But now the computer doesn't do anything.
Can't turn on the computer now. when i press the power bottom nothing happens.
have i just burned out my motherboard? :huh:
Or can it damage the power supply to reset the CMOS via that method?

I unplugged the power supply, then i helt the power bottom for 10 sec, waited around 30 sec. Connected the two pins via an metal object. (screw driver). held it there for 30 sec. plugged the power supply back in. tried to power the system but no responds at all. Not even the fans start spinning. not any sound or lights anywhere.
this is getting messy :cry:

gregrocker · Sep 19, 2012

Where in the tutorial did it say to short the pins with a screwdriver? The 3 options are to reset in BIOS setup, remove the CMOS battery, or use the jumper if there is one.

You'll need to post in hardware forum or take it to a shop now.

proudtobegreek · Sep 19, 2012

Is,or should i say "was" there a jumper in the first place in the clear cmos position?

gregrocker · Sep 19, 2012

As it says in the tutorial it depends upon your model. But if there is no jumper I would not short anything, although someone more experienced in hardware may know better and choose to do that. I wouldn't.

AddRAM · Sep 19, 2012

Before you ruin your pc, stop making hardware changes. If it was running fine and someone else used it and shut it down last they could have done ( not knowingly ) done a simple thing. Keep working through Greg`s steps. You need to make a startup repair disc somehow and use it, you`ve got to get the pc to stay running 1st.

proudtobegreek · Sep 19, 2012

The only shortening i am allowing myself,is to boot while on the bench,hope that aint that risky at all!
On the other hand,could all OPs problems be,because of a missing jumper,maybe while changing modules?

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