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Windows 7: Windows 7 is EOL is near, what will you do?

15 Jan 2018   #1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Windows 7 is EOL is near, what will you do?

Hello, I want to ask some people, as Windows 7 EOL is near, will you keep your laptop or PC with windows 7 or upgrade to windows 10 or maybe just switch to *nix based OS. Thanks for reply to my thread.. I need recommendation because my laptop is ASUS A43SV, with i5-2430m, nVidia GT 540m and 16gigs ram DDR3L with some other specs, which last year I upgrade to windows 10 and it always overheat even I fresh install it. It makes me sad so I stay with the OEM preinstalled OS with Windows 7 OEM. Will it okay for me to keep the windows 10 forever? Thanks

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15 Jan 2018   #2

Windows 7 HP 64

End of support will be in two years. It doesn't mean that the computer will be useless. It will work as it does today.
M$ will only stop delivering the security updates.
I still have an old laptop with win XP. It works the same way. It's my backup computer. Some programs new versions, like Skype doesn't run on it, but the old version does.

I don't like Win 10 so I will keep using win 7 after end of support. And I'm downloading the offline updates so I can reinstall them in case of a fresh install. MS releases SP2 for Windows 7 - Windows 7 Help Forums.

Linux is a better OS than Windows, (faster, secure and free) so I'm getting use to it. I have it on another HDD.
I have Lubuntu, but most of us on the forum use Ubuntu, Zorin and Mint.
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15 Jan 2018   #3


My computer is set up as dual boot, Win 7 and Win 10, so for heavy internet I'll use Win10 for security, Win 7 will be my back up, with less internet access and with good firewall and common sense should not have issues. I also have Linux on memory stick, which can also be used for internet access. BTW you can set up Win 10, so it works pretty well but it's time consuming, however at some point, you'll have no choice. I suspect your overheating issue is caused by background processes (like telemetry and this freaking constant updates), which are difficult to eliminate, but it can be done and I'm at the point, where I can actually tolerate it. For example telling Win10 you're on metered internet access will limit auto updates, so you can do it when YOU WANT, not in the middle of some important work you struggle to finish. I think dual boot is my key point here: learn to tame Win10, slowly on your own time and still have fully functional computer, when need it.
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15 Jan 2018   #4

Windows 7 HomePremium 64bit

Speaking for me (home PC user), EndOfSupport for Win7 doesn't really bother me much. As poster before me said, in 5 years, Win7 will work the same as today -reliable and simple.
I am more worried about future hardware.. A year ago I upgraded my PC to Skylake CPU (H170 chipset), when "Win7 not supported" became more apparent. Luckily, solution was quite simple (slipstream "new USB3.x" drivers into Win7 ISO). Still, no matter how much I "like" Win7, at some point I will need to decide.
At that time (a year ago), I gave Win10 a serious try (for second time).. I mean, I really wanted to "adopt" Win10. But after two weeks I gave up. Btw. I tried linux years ago.. but I think it's easier to switch from Win7 to Win10 than to Linux (needs separate topic).
Right now I'm seriously checking for so called "Lite" versions of Win10 -which seems promising according to feedback from those who installed Lite. I have enough time to decide.. Win7 is working perfect so far.
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15 Jan 2018   #5

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.3 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
Convert To A Virtual Machine

You can convert your current W7 install to a VHD using Macrium Reflect.

You could then run it as a VM on Linux Host OS (using VirtualBox, VMware Player, etc.) with the virtual network disabled.
If you need to surf the Internet you use the Linux Host OS instead of W7.

Some Linux Distros (like Ubuntu, Linux Mint, CentOS, MX17, etc.) aren't much different from Windows.

You can download an ISO, create a Live Linux CD/DVD/USB and run/test it without having to install it on your machine.
You can also check out reviews on forums like this one:
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16 Jan 2018   #6

Windows 7 HomePremium 64bit

Just adding to my post above (for further consideration):

I made only six security updates for my Win7x64-SP1. Just after my post above, I decided to run two more updates: KB4056897 (meltdown patch) and KB4056894 (monthly security roll-up January 2018). And ques what.. Windows Explorer refuses to rename any folder at first attempt -rename succeeds after Try again.
After checking the web, someone found solution for that bug: I needed to remove certain registry keys -and it works so far. But who knows where else can/will I get "weird behavior".. maybe assuming I got some virus/malware. I refused to update Win7 for years and everything worked well. Now I made security(!) update and problem arise.
Btw. this bug is known for at least two years, but as it seems, MS doesn't care. Ok, one would think Win7 is an "old story". But going to Win10 forums one can see similar thing (bugged updates which fixes previous bug). My impression about MS... Over the years, generation there changed (sloppy programmers), philosophy changed, people in charge changed. They just shovel update after update and user accept them (thinking "one need to be up to date") without second though. And if PC doesn't work as expected (or used to), it's usually considered as "user's fault".
As I said in my post above: I have enough time to decide.. and it might be Linux as well.
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16 Jan 2018   #7

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit

I will not use Windows 10, even if they pay me to do it.

I will stick to Windows 7, it will be the same after the support ends, just no security updates (which of course is still a bad thing), but for sure my primary OS will be Linux. I use Linux and I'm really happy with it, I mostly write code, I'm developer. The only downside to Linux is the games compatibility, but I don't play many games, just a few. I keep Windows installed for games. It's stupid to use Linux as a gaming OS (well, that's not 100% true, but most times it is). Those people who uses computer mainly for games should stick with Windows 7 or 10.

By the way, Windows 7 extended support will end at 14 January, 2020. That's 2 years, so you should not worry at this point.
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19 Jan 2018   #8

Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)

I created a Linux Mint xfce DVD, so I could boot to it and install Mint from it. I then removed my Windows 7 hard drive, and stored it safely away, in case I ever need it in the future. I then installed a new hard drive.

I then booted with the Linux Mint DVD, and installed Linux Mint to my new hard drive. I installed VMWare Workstation Player, and set up two virtual machines: one for Windows 7 and one for Windows 8.1. I did clean installs of 7 and 8.1 in the VMs.

I do almost everything in Linux. But there are a few things I can't do in Linux, such as Windows Movie Maker, so I use the 7 or 8.1 VMs for those things.

I find it very satisfying to work entirely in Linux Mint, and to keep Windows around in case I need it for something. But I very much enjoy Windows being the step-child rather than the host OS: If I need it, I open a Windows session. When I am done, I close it, and it disappears till I need it again.

The reason I also set up an 8.1 VM is because Windows 8.1 will be supported till 2023. This gives me a few more years with a supported Windows version, in case I must have Windows for some reason. To tell you the truth, it works out fine, because I have installed Classic Shell, and so it is just like Windows 7.

If you go the Linux-as-host / Windows-as-VM route, and if you're going to use the VM a lot, make sure you have plenty of memory (at least 8 GB). I have only 4 GB, and so the VM is slow sometimes. But I hardly ever use the VM, so it's not a big deal with me.
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19 Jan 2018   #9

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1

Tough to say. By that point my Win 7 desktop build will be ~3.5 years old. I'd like to continue using it thereafter but might opt for a Linux dual boot setup to use Windows as necessary (e.g. gaming) and Linux for most everyday use (browsing).

It all really depends on what the security landscape is at that point. If there's some way to keep the system secure, maybe with custom-developed security updates by the community (didn't something like that happen for XP?) then I'd like to stay with 7 a couple years after its EOL.

Longer term maybe I'll go AMD + Linux.
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19 Jan 2018   #10

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.3 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mrjimphelps View Post
If you go the Linux-as-host / Windows-as-VM route, and if you're going to use the VM a lot, make sure you have plenty of memory (at least 8 GB). I have only 4 GB, and so the VM is slow sometimes. But I hardly ever use the VM, so it's not a big deal with me.

Also (for VM newbies) remember to leave enough RAM for your Host OS and software.

I have 12GB of RAM and my VMs are allocated a maximum of 8GB (I only run one VM at a time).
That leaves me 4GB, allowing me to surf the Internet on my Host OS using modern RAM-hungry browsers.

The first time I gave a VM to one of my friends, he allocated all of his machine's RAM to the VM, which caused performance issues.
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