Show Us Your WEI (2)

[Crunchy Doodle]

I've upgraded my two-year-old X58 based system with an i7-970. It even boots up faster.

Bye.

 

[Cr00zng]

With just a change of the BCLK to 160, leaving turbo and all power savings on, I get 7.4 with my i5, and 7.7 for my 4 Gig's ram now running natively at 1600MHz.

A Guy

Nice scores and thanks for the tip for the BIOS settings; your system would be really fast with an SSD drive, even with the SATA 2.0 ports.

I am actually considering moving the SSD to the SATA 2.0 port for two reasons. One is no TRIM support with the Marvell chip and the other is that occasionally the "mv91xx.sys" causes BSOD. The the disk performance WEI will probably drop to 7.5 or so, but the TRIM will work with the Intel driver and probably gets rid of the BSOD as well.

 

[imeem]

Is it true that getting a SSD will not improve frame rates in games? But will decrease load times in games?

 

[Anusha]

Is it true that getting a SSD will not improve frame rates in games? But will decrease load times in games?

Yes sir

 

[A Guy]

With just a change of the BCLK to 160, leaving turbo and all power savings on, I get 7.4 with my i5, and 7.7 for my 4 Gig's ram now running natively at 1600MHz.

A Guy

Nice scores and thanks for the tip for the BIOS settings; your system would be really fast with an SSD drive, even with the SATA 2.0 ports.

I am actually considering moving the SSD to the SATA 2.0 port for two reasons. One is no TRIM support with the Marvell chip and the other is that occasionally the "mv91xx.sys" causes BSOD. The the disk performance WEI will probably drop to 7.5 or so, but the TRIM will work with the Intel driver and probably gets rid of the BSOD as well.

This is what I call an "on demand" overclock. It idles at x9 multi, and averages 3.21GHz. All power savings, only high clock when needed.

"It actually makes so much sense to overclock the Core i5 from its 133 MHz base clock to a little more that we recommend this to every user who is interested in getting more risk-free performance at zero cost. Moving from a 133 MHz BCLK to 150 or 160 MHz, which was the maximum setting in our tests that didn’t require a voltage increase, does not increase your total system idle power. Apparently, the processor power saving features keep idle power in check very efficiently. Peak power, which would be our top reason against high overclocks, still doesn’t explode. We measured less than a 6% increase in peak power on the MSI P55-GD65 when going from a 133 to 160 MHz clock. This had the processor reaching 3.36/3.84 GHz maximum clock speeds in the two applicable Turbo Boost modes (one to two and three to four cores used)."

Efficiency Explored: What's The Perfect Clock Rate For Your Core i5? : Hunting Down The Perfect Clock Speed For Core i5

A Guy

 

[Dave76]

Thanks...

If someone would've told me a year ego that the CPU will be the bottleneck in my home desktop, I would've laughed my lower, lower, back of...:roflmao:

Which i5 do you have?

A Guy's mild OC actually gives a very nice performance boost and with EIST enabled, you get a very cool running machine at idle.

Mine ildes at 1.44 GHz and max'ed out at 3.84 GHz, RAM at 1600 MHz.

My i5-750 gets a 7.6 WEI.

 

[Cr00zng]

My CPU is the i5-760 and my specs have been updated...

Guys, I appreciate the help; however...

I did not intend to build a machine that can be OC-d easily; it is just a coincidence that is due to how Asus and others build motherboards nowadays. The default 2.8GHz CPU speed is perfectly fine for me for what I do on this machine.

My intend had been is to build a new machine with the fastest storage sub-system currently available (back in November of 2010) at a relatively reasonable cost. The SATA 3.0 support and the Crucial C300 SSD fit this bill just just fine. Having WEI disk score of 7.9 made much more difference in the performance of this system than any OC-ing the CPU could in my opinion. At least for regular usage of the machine...

I just didn't think that doing so would result in a better WEI score for the storage sub-system than the WEI score for the CPU. While it seems that the CPU is the performance bottleneck, that certainly isn't the case. The memory, video, and disk performances are still lagging behind the the CPU performance, even if WEI says otherwise.

It just looked funny that the 2.8GHz quad CPU shows up as the lowest score in the Windows WEI...

 

[RST101]

With just a change of the BCLK to 160, leaving turbo and all power savings on, I get 7.4 with my i5, and 7.7 for my 4 Gig's ram now running natively at 1600MHz.

A Guy

Nice scores and thanks for the tip for the BIOS settings; your system would be really fast with an SSD drive, even with the SATA 2.0 ports.

I am actually considering moving the SSD to the SATA 2.0 port for two reasons. One is no TRIM support with the Marvell chip and the other is that occasionally the "mv91xx.sys" causes BSOD. The the disk performance WEI will probably drop to 7.5 or so, but the TRIM will work with the Intel driver and probably gets rid of the BSOD as well.

This is what I call an "on demand" overclock. It idles at x9 multi, and averages 3.21GHz. All power savings, only high clock when needed.

"It actually makes so much sense to overclock the Core i5 from its 133 MHz base clock to a little more that we recommend this to every user who is interested in getting more risk-free performance at zero cost. Moving from a 133 MHz BCLK to 150 or 160 MHz, which was the maximum setting in our tests that didn’t require a voltage increase, does not increase your total system idle power. Apparently, the processor power saving features keep idle power in check very efficiently. Peak power, which would be our top reason against high overclocks, still doesn’t explode. We measured less than a 6% increase in peak power on the MSI P55-GD65 when going from a 133 to 160 MHz clock. This had the processor reaching 3.36/3.84 GHz maximum clock speeds in the two applicable Turbo Boost modes (one to two and three to four cores used)."

Efficiency Explored: What's The Perfect Clock Rate For Your Core i5? : Hunting Down The Perfect Clock Speed For Core i5

A Guy

I'm running 3.7ghz @ 1.18v-1.21(auto), 177x21(turbo off-power savings on), this chip and board oc brilliantly. Could turn the screw higher but idle temps hit 40c @ 3.8 and I like to keep idle under that, at the minute idle is 38c.

 

[Dave76]

My CPU is the i5-760 and my specs have been updated...

Guys, I appreciate the help; however...

I did not intend to build a machine that can be OC-d easily; it is just a coincidence that is due to how Asus and others build motherboards nowadays. The default 2.8GHz CPU speed is perfectly fine for me for what I do on this machine.

My intend had been is to build a new machine with the fastest storage sub-system currently available (back in November of 2010) at a relatively reasonable cost. The SATA 3.0 support and the Crucial C300 SSD fit this bill just just fine. Having WEI disk score of 7.9 made much more difference in the performance of this system than any OC-ing the CPU could in my opinion. At least for regular usage of the machine...

I just didn't think that doing so would result in a better WEI score for the storage sub-system than the WEI score for the CPU. While it seems that the CPU is the performance bottleneck, that certainly isn't the case. The memory, video, and disk performances are still lagging behind the the CPU performance, even if WEI says otherwise.

It just looked funny that the 2.8GHz quad CPU shows up as the lowest score in the Windows WEI...

If it's doing what you want then it's a great machine.

The SSD is the best performance upgrade you can do at this time.
You can get a noticable boost with a mild OC, if you feel it's needed, if not then enjoy the rig it's a very nice one

 

[Mitchell90]

Here's my WEI, can't remember if I ever posted it before.

 

[Beginning]

^Nice scores.

 

[whiltove]

My index number

THIS with OCZ REVO drive

 

[whs]

THIS with OCZ REVO drive

You got the cream of the crop. I wonder though whether that performs faster for the OS than a regular SSD because the access times are appr. the same.

 

[A Guy]

THIS with OCZ REVO drive

Welcome to Seven Forums whiltove. great numbers. A Guy

 

[DirtyElf]

did some updating with the holidays... old and new score

 

[gregrocker]

did some updating with the holidays... old and new score

And take note this was by imaging his old install over to SSD using WD's free Acronis imaging app.

Done with great skill and competence - always nice to see.

http://www.sevenforums.com/installa...d-move-install-another-hdd-2.html#post1163284

 

[Dave76]

did some updating with the holidays... old and new score

Congrats, nice scores.

Since you restored the OS from a HDD, did you change the basic settings for SSDs?

First thing I would do is make sure the Win7 Defrag is turned off for the SSD, it's not needed and not good for the SSD.

There are a few others that you should change.

 

[Cr00zng]

If it's doing what you want then it's a great machine.

The SSD is the best performance upgrade you can do at this time.
You can get a noticeable boost with a mild OC, if you feel it's needed, if not then enjoy the rig it's a very nice one

While my new machine is doing what I needed for, it's been bugging me since I've red your and others' post couple of days ego about OC-ing "mildly". As such, I've done some test and the results are so-so at best that might be due to my lack of knowledge in the area of OC-ing. Anyway...

With default settings in the BIOS, no OC and running Passmark CPU benchmark, the CPU-Z shows this:

i5-760_CPU-Z.JPG

While "Bus Speed" and "QPI Link" are at default values, the CPU speed is about 140MHz faster than the default value. That's probably due to the Intel Turbo feature of the processor.
The WEI score is:

Win 7 performance.jpg

The one that actually makes the most difference is AS SSD benchmark:

AS P7P55D-E Pro_no OC.JPG

Changing the BIOS to "X.M.P" in the "AI Overcloker Tuner" and running Passmark; CPU-Z shows this:

i5_760_XMP.JPG

The "Bus Speed" increased to about 160MHz and the "QPI Link" 2,892. The CPU maxes out at 2,892; evidently, "X.M.P" disables the Intel Turbo feature.
The WEI score is:

p7p55d-e_WEI.jpg

While the memory performance did increase, the CPU performance index did not change. Neither did the AS SSD benchmark results changed much:

AS P7P55D-E PrC.JPG

The overall AS SSD score is actually lower than the non-OC-d scores.

The temperature of the CPU didn't change much in either case; the idle temperature for non-OC-d was between 33-35 Celcius, while the OC-d was between 37-40 Celsius. The difference between load temperatures were even less, one or two Celsius.

As mentioned earlier, my skills for OC-ing the system is rather limited and there's probably more "juice" in the my system than the limited AI OC-ing shows. Regardless how well the system is OC-d, the SSD drive (that is already pretty much at its maximum speed) is still the slowest subsystem in my machine and pretty much maxed out even without OC-ing the system.

Then there's the issue of the Marvell/PLX chip that is utilizing a PCIe x1 lane for the SATA 3.0 ports. In my previous board of P7P55D-E, the "mv91xx.sys" (Marvell driver) did cause numerous BSOD's. After replacing the board with the P7P55D-E Pro, I have not seen a BSOD event as of yet, even when the board was OC-d. OC-ing the board too much may just bring back BSOD because of the Marvell chip.

Thanks to you and others, I've learned more about my system than I've ever wanted to know...

 

[startas]

My Asus x51l

 

[cbaile6692]

System Update

Hi Guys I have upgraded my graphics card from the HD5770 to a GTX 460 and here's my updated scores. I am planning to upgrade my ssd soon.