Solved Get rid of the libraries?

[Flasimbufasa]

I ran a regedit mod that lets you disable use of Libraries. Now in start menu, I no longer have a link to music or videos.

Is it possible to reinable those links, but to work more of the way the vista links worked?

I know I can edit
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders
and

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders

but I cannot make sense of which ones to modify after applying the mod.

To be honest, I hate libraries and wish I could uninstall them. We all have preferences and I have this one. :/

 

[Mike Connor]

How to disable libraries;

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/35627-libraries-folder-add-remove-navigation-pane.html

You can add links to the folders where your music and videos are stored. The default folder for music is

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/585-library-include-folder.html

\username\My Music

\username\My Videos

If you disable libraries then you have to keep your folders organised as you can then no longer add files to "libarires" which are virtual folders and can contain content from anywhere.

Regards....Mike Connor

 

[logicearth]

So why do you hate Libraries?

 

[Mike Connor]

I love libraries, I just think they are better utilised for storing books.

Adding all these default virtual folders/links to a single user desktop system is merely confusing, time wasting, and unproductive for many users.

If you have your system sorted out properly you simply don't need libraries.

This is reflected in the absolutely huge number of users looking for ways to disable and remove them. They just want to click on a folder of their choice, they don't want to drill down through what to them is merely a load of useless bloat in order to find a file. Nor do they wish to learn all the complicated rigmarole associated with such things.

There are doubtless plenty of users who like libraries, and that is fine, the problem arises when one is not given the choice.

People do not want to be told how to set up or do things or be forced into using a system that does not work for them.

Regards....Mike Connor

 

[kado897]

Ho Hum... Why not get rid of the file structure altogether and just have one big folder.
:roflmao:

 

[Mike Connor]

Ho Hum... Why not get rid of the file structure altogether and just have one big folder.
:roflmao:

The Libraries in Windows have nothing at all to do with file structure.

These are file structures;

http://www.google.com/images?q=file...tle&resnum=2&ved=0CCoQsAQwAQ&biw=1563&bih=870

This reflects how the files are actually organised. Libraries rely on virtual links which have nothing at all to do with the physical file structure or its heirachy.

Using a single folder is not a problem with the right software.

Change is not always progress.........

Regards....Mike Connor

 

[kado897]

Ho Hum... Why not get rid of the file structure altogether and just have one big folder.
:roflmao:

Libraries have nothing at all to do with file structure.

Using a single folder is not a problem with the right software.

Change is not always progress.........

Regards....Mike Connor

I am aware that libraries are nothing to do with the file structure they are a tool to help in grouping and organizing folders. I find them very useful. I just find it incredible that some people automatically reject anything new and hark back to the good old days of XP.

 

[whs]

kado, there is nothing you can do. It is very difficult to get people to accept change, even if it is for the better. We see this every day - especially in politics.

I love the libraries. I have "included" all kinds of folders (even some on external disks). Makes it so much easier to stay organized. It is also handy for creating your own libraries to amend the given structure.

 

[kado897]

kado, there is nothing you can do. It is very difficult to get people to accept change, even if it is for the better. We see this every day - especially in politics.

I love the libraries. I have "included" all kinds of folders (even some on external disks). Makes it so much easier to stay organized. It is also handy for creating your own libraries to amend the given structure.

Me to. I even find them useful for looking at the same folders in different groupings. There is no reason, for instance, that you could have one pictures library grouped by folder and another by tags or date. The possibilities are endless about the only thing you can't do is have one library inside another.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

What was the motivation to devote X thousands of MS development hours to libraries?

I think that is a rhetorical question.

Many people have folders named "stuff" in which you can find pot roast recipes AND a picture of Goldilocks AND the secrets of the neutron bomb, among hundreds of other files.

These people need help and libraries is the MS solution. Better than expecting them to put those 3 disparate things in separate folders. At least, that's what I think libraries are for--I lost interest in them after 20 minutes.

At the other extreme are people like me: 10,032 folders on my data drive, so says the trusty D:\>dir /s. I kid you not.

To each his own?

 

[Mike Connor]

Ho Hum... Why not get rid of the file structure altogether and just have one big folder.
:roflmao:

Libraries have nothing at all to do with file structure.

Using a single folder is not a problem with the right software.

Change is not always progress.........

Regards....Mike Connor

I am aware that libraries are nothing to do with the file structure they are a tool to help in grouping and organizing folders. I find them very useful. I just find it incredible that some people automatically reject anything new and hark back to the good old days of XP.

Not according to Microsoft;

QUOTE
With Windows 7, the concept of Libraries tries to address the problem of users storing content all over their PC by allowing them to have full control over their Documents Library folder structure. In other words, in Windows 7 users can define which folders to include in the Documents Library
UNQUOTE

From Inside Windows 7:Introducing Libraries

Just a poor attempt to make up for lack of user knowledge and discipline.

That many find them useful is not at issue, there are just as many more who find them to be a nuisance.

Regards....Mike Connor

 

[kado897]

So, with 10k folders, how do you find anything?

 

[ignatzatsonic]

So, with 10k folders, how do you find anything?

Even I can recognize a rhetorical question.

Truthfully, I didn't think it was that high. But that is what the command says. I'd have guessed 2 or 3 thousand. I never notice it.

 

[kado897]

Libraries have nothing at all to do with file structure.

Using a single folder is not a problem with the right software.

Change is not always progress.........

Regards....Mike Connor

I am aware that libraries are nothing to do with the file structure they are a tool to help in grouping and organizing folders. I find them very useful. I just find it incredible that some people automatically reject anything new and hark back to the good old days of XP.

Not according to Microsoft;

QUOTE
With Windows 7, the concept of Libraries tries to address the problem of users storing content all over their PC by allowing them to have full control over their Documents Library folder structure. In other words, in Windows 7 users can define which folders to include in the Documents Library
UNQUOTE

From Inside Windows 7:Introducing Libraries

Just a poor attempt to make up for lack of user knowledge and discipline.

That many find them useful is not at issue, there are just as many more who find them to be a nuisance.

Regards....Mike Connor

It's not just people who store things all over the place, programs do too. Libraries are just a tool, you don't have to use them.

 

[Mike Connor]

So, with 10k folders, how do you find anything?

The same way you do now, using either a file manager, or a command line utility. ( Preferably one that works! )

Regards....Mike Connor

 

[Mike Connor]

It's not just people who store things all over the place, programs do too. Libraries are just a tool, you don't have to use them.

Good programs don't !

I know I don't have to use them, that's why I disable and remove them. There are a lot of people who don't want to use them and ARE forced to use them, because they dont know how to get rid of them.

Regards....Mike Connor

 

[ignatzatsonic]

So, with 10k folders, how do you find anything?

The same way you do now, using either a file manager, or a command line utility. ( Preferably one that works! )

Regards....Mike Connor

I assume Kado is jiving me, but I'll play along while I wait for the football game.

Suppose I download a PDF file that is a manual for a Gigabyte GA-H67MA-UDH2 motherboard.

It goes here:

D:\computer\hardware\motherboards and chipsets\Gigabyte

Likewise a live recording made by Ella Fitzgerald goes here:

D:\mp3\pop and jazz\ella fitzgerald\live

It's just a nested series of folders.

How do I find out if I have a particular Ella Fitzgerald live recording?

Well, I know that I wouldn't put the Ella song in the Elvis folder. So, oddly enough, I would navigate to D:\mp3\pop and jazz\ella fitzgerald\live and look.

If I was unorganized generally, I would have all 22,000 mp3s in a single folder and have lost my mind long ago.

You have to be willing to name a file based on its contents. That is--your Gigabyte motherboard manuals can't be named "cool computer stuff".

I have a high powered near-instantaneous file search tool ("Everything"), which can find any file on my system by name within 1 or 2 seconds. I use it occasionally if I think it's quicker than navigating and looking.

But you knew all of that. I'm just playing along with you. As I said, "to each his own".

 

[kado897]

It's not just people who store things all over the place, programs do too. Libraries are just a tool, you don't have to use them.

Good programs don't !

I know I don't have to use them, that's why I disable and remove them. There are a lot of people who don't want to use them and ARE forced to use them, because they dont know how to get rid of them.

Regards....Mike Connor

It's not people who learn about them and try to use them before deciding to get rid of them that I can't understand, it's the people who just dismiss them out of hand because they are different from the way it has always been done.

 

[kado897]

So, with 10k folders, how do you find anything?

The same way you do now, using either a file manager, or a command line utility. ( Preferably one that works! )

Regards....Mike Connor

I assume Kado is jiving me, but I'll play along while I wait for the football game.

Suppose I download a PDF file that is a manual for a Gigabyte GA-H67MA-UDH2 motherboard.

It goes here:

D:\computer\hardware\motherboards and chipsets\Gigabyte

Likewise a live recording made by Ella Fitzgerald goes here:

D:\mp3\pop and jazz\ella fitzgerald\live

It's just a nested series of folders.

How do I find out if I have a particular Ella Fitzgerald live recording?

Well, I know that I wouldn't put the Ella song in the Elvis folder. So, oddly enough, I would navigate to D:\mp3\pop and jazz\ella fitzgerald\live and look.

If I was unorganized generally, I would have all 22,000 mp3s in a single folder and have lost my mind long ago.

You have to be willing to name a file based on its contents. That is--your Gigabyte motherboard manuals can't be named "cool computer stuff".

I have a high powered near-instantaneous file search tool ("Everything"), which can find any file on my system by name within 1 or 2 seconds. I use it occasionally if I think it's quicker than navigating and looking.

But you knew all of that. I'm just playing along with you. As I said, "to each his own".

Enjoy the game.

 

[Mike Connor]

It's not just people who store things all over the place, programs do too. Libraries are just a tool, you don't have to use them.

Good programs don't !

I know I don't have to use them, that's why I disable and remove them. There are a lot of people who don't want to use them and ARE forced to use them, because they dont know how to get rid of them.

Regards....Mike Connor

It's not people who learn about them and try to use them before deciding to get rid of them that I can't understand, it's the people who just dismiss them out of hand because they are different from the way it has always been done.

I suppose that's fair comment. The problem for most who have tried to use them is not the obvious gains to be had, there is no gainsaying that there are various powerful advantages to using libraries or similar systems under certain circumstances, but the concomitant loss of a nunber of quite simple functions and routes.

Nobody I know who has much to do with computers, ( and that's a large number of people) has dismissed them out of hand, they have generally tried to use them and given up in frustration.

There are also untold numbers of users who simply wanted a faster more reliable system, ( than XP), they did not want a whole slew of, ( to them), dubious "improvements" in the user interface.

There are lots of various groups and factions involved here, and I suspect that those who "dismiss out of hand", are not that really large a group all told.

Whatever, just a few thoughts on the matter.

Regards....Mike Connor