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If you love Windows XP, you’ll hate Windows 7 by Ed Bott

If you love Windows XP, you’ll hate Windows 7

Posted by Ed Bott


My colleague Jason Perlow has been playing with Windows 7, and he hates it. The sad thing is, all the things he hates are improvements, in my opinion, which just goes to show that you really can’t please everyone. But what’s sad to see is that every setting Jason describes as broken is in fact easily customizable so it works the way he wants it.
The crux of Jason’s complaint is simple: “I learned how to use Windows in 1998. Don’t change a thing.” Here’s his main argument in a nutshell:
I find it difficult to believe that Windows 7 was created to be easier to use than Vista — if anything, they’ve introduced a number of UI changes that make the system much harder to navigate, particularly if you’ve never used Vista and are going direct to Windows 7 from Windows XP, which is the path that many users will experience.
Yes, there’s a learning curve........

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I find 7 to be streamlined and quite intuitive and user friendly. I don't even miss Vista already. :p
 

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Hi Aaron,

I think Ed Bott does too,

It's the first Entry in the "Most inappropriate Post Title Contest 2009" :devil:

I found the actual article quite refreshing - answering some common mis-conceptions
 

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I am sick of XP-fanboyism. I wish it was legal to hunt them.
 
Hi DiamondNRG,

Actually I think it will be when the season opens, I think that's at the end of June this year :geek: :p
 

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Very nice! I had forgotten that ... will it be bow only at first? I can't wait for hatchet season! :)
 
I have a feeling there are a lot of Jasons out there. This was part of the problem with Vista and we're going to have to deal with it again for many who will upgrade from XP.

Gary
 

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Until everyone moves away from XP, we'll continue to have this problem.

I know a user who didn't move to XP until 2006 - and another who still uses Windows 98. These sort of folks are slow to change, and until it is literally forced onto them they refuse to make the change.

It is one of the reasons these forums will continue to be valuable not only this year, and the next, but well into the next decade.
 

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Well said John, As usual,;)

What really worries me is some of the comments you hear to articles like this, eg where one poster was waiting for windows 7, to be usable with XP era hardware.

Now I used XP for a long time, without problems, and a lot of others before that, but people have to realise that times, and hardware, change and so therfore do operating systems.

I think, unfortunately that a lot lot of the XP holdouts are going to suffer when they eventually "have" to move on, and find the whole jump to windows 7 too much.

But as you say it's important that places like The Vista and Seven forums exist to ease their passage "to the dark side"
 

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Well, there needs to be a qualification to that statement to begin with.

XP era hardware runs the gamut from early generation P4 all the way to the early generation Core 2 Duos - so, saying XP generation hardware is simply a misnomer.

FWIW, though, I am pretty sure that W7 would run, albeit slowly and without a lot of pizazz, on older P4 machines. Whether any of us would *like* it at those slow speeds is a question better left to those who actually try this and work with it on a daily basis....
 

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Point taken John,

With XP's long life Hardware changed quite a bit during it "era"

I think it would struggle on some of the XP machines I've worked on recently, 180MHz Celeron's with 256MB ram and 40GB Hard disks :eek:, mind you XP isn't exactly lightning fast on those specs :D.

When it comes down to it most non business users will Upgrade when they purchase new hardware so should have a smooth out of the box experience, which is where I personally think what we've seen of Seven improves on Vista at the same state of development ...

and Seven should have a smoother ride in the market unless the major OEMs decide to offer downgrades to Vista for $150 extra :sarc:
 

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    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RPIntel I7 10750H 5.0GHz32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHznVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
ROTF - you mean they'd have to offer a $150 *rebate* to get folks to use Vista....
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 21H2 Current buildAMD Ryzen 9 3950X4 * 32 GB - Corsair Vengeance 3600 MHzEVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING (12...
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    The Beast Model A (homebrew)
    OS
    Windows 11 21H2 Current build
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
    Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
    Memory
    4 * 32 GB - Corsair Vengeance 3600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING (12G-P5-3955-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x Eve Spectrum ES07D03 4K Gaming Monitor (Matte) | Eve Spec
    Screen Resolution
    3x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    3x Samsung 980 Pro NVMe PCIe 4 M.2 2 TB SSD (MZ-V8P2T0B/AM) } 3x Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 1 TB SSD
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Plat
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
    Cooling
    SteelSeries Apex Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard
    Keyboard
    SteelSeries Apex Pro
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S | MX Master 3 for business
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender + MB 3
    Browser
    Nightly (default) + Firefox (stable),Chrome, Edge
  • At a glance

    ChromeOS Flex Dev Channel (current)Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 250...16 GBIntel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell Latitude E5470
    OS
    ChromeOS Flex Dev Channel (current)
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryville 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S (shared w. Sys 1) | Dell TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
But as you say it's important that places like The Vista and Seven forums exist to ease their passage "to the dark side"

Yes, the dark side, I like it, I like it a lot! :D
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

XP Pro, Windows 7 Ultimate 64 & 32 Build 70226600 2.40 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo4096 GB DDR2512 MB Nvidia GeForce 8400 GS PCI E
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
XP Pro, Windows 7 Ultimate 64 & 32 Build 7022
CPU
6600 2.40 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo
Motherboard
Nvidia nForce 650i Ultra
Memory
4096 GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
512 MB Nvidia GeForce 8400 GS PCI E
Hard Drives
2 x 250 GB Western Digital SATA
1 x 500 GB Western Digital SATA
1 x 250 GB Western Digital SATA USB
1 x 80 GB Western Digital IDE
PSU
600 Watt
Case
Custom
Cooling
Zalman
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech MX 700 Wireless Optical Mouse
Internet Speed
Fios
Other Info
Also a Dell Inspiron E1505 1.6 Core Duo with 2GB DDR2, 320GB HDD running dual boot Windows 7 32 build 7057 & XP Pro 32 SP3.
and Seven should have a smoother ride in the market unless the major OEMs decide to offer downgrades to Vista for $150 extra :sarc:

ROFLMAO :D

One thing is sure. Soon they'll only have a choice of Vista or Seven so things should get a hoppin' 'round here.

Gary
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 gigahertzCrucial Ballistix 4x2GB PC2 6400NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS 256 MB
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS420
OS
Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64
CPU
Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 gigahertz
Memory
Crucial Ballistix 4x2GB PC2 6400
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS 256 MB
Sound Card
Creative SB X-Fi audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP w2207 + HPvs15
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 + 1024x768
Hard Drives
2-WD5000AAKS-500 GB
WD5000AAV-500 GB external
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve
Mouse
MX Revolution
Other Info
Wacom Intuos 2 Graphics Tablet
Experience Index=5.5
I'm pre-exhausted at the thought of all those Vista bashers adding 7 to the list....

duh, Vista is sh*t and so is Seven ,duh.

At least my response is well rehearsed: "No it isn't".

That's all the patience I have for fanbois. I'd rather use my oxygen to breathe :p
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

8 Pro x64i7 3770K 4.6GHz16GB G.Skill Trident X 2666mhzx2 EVGA 780 Ti Superclocked SLI
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Systems by SmartEyeball
OS
8 Pro x64
CPU
i7 3770K 4.6GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z77 WS
Memory
16GB G.Skill Trident X 2666mhz
Graphics Card(s)
x2 EVGA 780 Ti Superclocked SLI
Sound Card
SB X-FI Surround 5.1 PRO USB / ATH-AD900 Headphones
Monitor(s) Displays
x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung
Screen Resolution
5760*1200/ 1920*1200
Hard Drives
2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black * Sony Optirac DVD
PSU
Silverstone Strider Evolution 1200W
Case
Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition
Cooling
Noctua NH-D14
Keyboard
Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL
Mouse
Thermaltake Theron (Highly Recommended) + Razer Imperator
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
IE, FF, WaterFox
Other Info
GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
Fanatec CSR Elite Wheel + Clubsport V1 Pedals + CSR shifter/7G-H ▼Saitek X52 Pro ▼ TrackIR 5 Pro
Buttkicker v2 Seat Rumbler with Dedicated 5.1 and Sub Woofer attached to frame ▼
=
Bloody Big Grin
I Changed Directly From Xp to Windows 7.. n am loving it! :D
 
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At a glance

Windows 7 RC1Core Duo,1.6Ghz1GB
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Hp 530
OS
Windows 7 RC1
CPU
Core Duo,1.6Ghz
Motherboard
T2300
Memory
1GB
I Chaneged Directly From Xp to Windows 7.. n am loving it! :D

Nice to see an answer from somebody who actually tries Windows 7 before comenting ;)

I'm pre-exhausted at the thought of all those Vista bashers adding 7 to the list....

duh, Vista is sh*t and so is Seven ,duh.

At least my response is well rehearsed: "No it isn't".

That's all the patience I have for fanbois. I'd rather use my oxygen to breathe :p

Quite agree Smarty - but I do feel we should at least try to edumucate 'em :p
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Releas...Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RPIntel I7 10750H 5.0GHz32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHznVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
Well I'm one of the ones that didn't start until 1998 with Windows 98 and I've always wanted the next in line when it comes out but finances dictate otherwise.

I've gone from 98, WinME still running, XP still running and now Vista but as I've only just got that it will be a few years before I'll be able to move to Windows 7.

I just love new technology and gadgets and usually when a new OS is being developed love all the articles and reading forums like this and finding out what it's going to be like when it's in production.
OK so I'm usually a couple of years behind the launch when I finally get my hands on it but that's due to finances and having to wait until I have the funds to buy another machine then whatever I'm using at the time gets handed down to my husband, I know I'm selfish but I want to play with the new, he wouldn't know what to do with it anyway :D
 

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Windows 10 64bit/Windows 10 64bit/Windows 10 ...Intel Pentium J3710 @ 60GHz/Intel B820,1.7GHz...8.00GB DDR3 @ 1599MHz/8GB 2 x 4GB DDR3/8.00GB...Intel HD Graphics/Intel/512MB ATI AMD Radeon ...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Aspire XC-704 x64 bit/ Asus K55A Notebook PC/HP Envy x360 Convertible 15-bq0xx
OS
Windows 10 64bit/Windows 10 64bit/Windows 10 64bit
CPU
Intel Pentium J3710 @ 60GHz/Intel B820,1.7GHz/AMD A9 Radeon
Motherboard
Acer Aspire XC-704 (SOCKET 0)/Asus/HP 8312 (Socket FP4)
Memory
8.00GB DDR3 @ 1599MHz/8GB 2 x 4GB DDR3/8.00GB Dual-Channel
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics/Intel/512MB ATI AMD Radeon R5 Graphics (HP
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio/Onboard/AMD High Definition Au
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer LCD K222HQL /Asus 15.6/Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@6
Screen Resolution
1920x1080@59Hz/1366 x 768/1920x1080@60Hz
Hard Drives
1863GBWesternn Digital WDC/Asus/119GB SanDisk SD8SN8U-128G-1006 (SSD)
931GB Hitachi HGST HTS721010A9E630 (SATA)
Keyboard
Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 (UK)/Inbuilt/Inbui
Mouse
Microsoft Optical Wheel Mouse/Same plus Touchpad/Same + Pad
Internet Speed
Infinity 2 up to 76 Mbps
Antivirus
MSE/MSE/MSE and all 3 have MalwareBytes Premium
Browser
Edge, Firefox/Edge, Firefox/Edge, Firefox, Chrome
Other Info
Seagate Expansion 500GB External Desktop Drive
Seagate Expansion Portable Drives 500GB and 1TB
Epson XP-332 Wireless Printer
WinME still running
............Wow, that is quite the accomplishment. :D

I think it really comes down to that anyone who is used to the way something works will probably not like any changes that are made in the next version. At least immediately. Especially some of us older users who are used to the way things have been for over a decade. Let's face it, the basic OS of Windows hasn't changed THAT much between Win 95 and XP, even Vista to some extent (the largest change to Vista, I feel, was the UAC).

The way Windows has worked hasn't changed drastically in regards to the UI, and Win7 is the first iteration of Windows to do so.

I don't know, I guess most people are just resistant to change, they become comfortable with the way something works, and then when it changes and they can't do what they are trying to do either because it's been moved elsewhere, or the way to do it has changed, they get upset and hate the new system.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Beta 1 b7000Intel Pentium 44GBATI Radeon HD3450
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell 8400
OS
Windows 7 Beta 1 b7000
CPU
Intel Pentium 4
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD3450
Sound Card
Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer AL2016W
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
1x500GB
1x100GB
Case
Dell 8400
Cooling
Standard
Keyboard
Dell Multimedia Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech MediaPlay
Internet Speed
Comcastic!
Weird, Windows ME didn't work for me the day Microsoft released it. Big pile of crap code that it was :)

I don't even feel the Windows 7 UI is hardly any different.
 
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