AMD may announce Bulldozer at CeBIT

[Phone Man]

“U.S. CPU and chip manufacturer AMD will be unveiling its new processors at CeBIT 2011. These new models are said to outperform the current top models of its Phenom-II series by 50 percent,”

"offer native DDR3-1866 memory support"

AMD Confirmed to Release New CPUs at CeBIT, Probably Bulldozer Chips - Softpedia

CeBIT starts tomorrow Mar 1 in Hannover, Germany.

I guess we will see this week if they have a winner.

Jim

 

[F1FAN]

i am going to have to update my motherboard when these come out, i hav an AM3 CPU in an AM2+ but i take it the new bulldozer won't be compatible with AM2+.

 

[seekermeister]

I wish that a motherboard would be all that I needed, but I would also have to have new ram. But, before I consider any of that, I'll have to wait to see what the prices are. Then again, may this will drive Phenom prices down even more.

 

[stve]

Hope its competitive with Intel's Sandybridge so prices come down.

 

[Phone Man]

i am going to have to update my motherboard when these come out, i hav an AM3 CPU in an AM2+ but i take it the new bulldozer won't be compatible with AM2+.

Its not compatible with anything. Requires a new AM3+ motherboard. I hope they also release a new motherboard chip with PCIe-3, USB3 and SATA III support. I like the upgrade of the memory controller but need to see the official specs when it is released.

Jim

 

[Zen00]

Why in Germany? Everybody knows that the world revolves around the US and if its not released at a major US trade show then it will be a failure.

 

[pparks1]

Hope its competitive with Intel's Sandybridge so prices come down.

It would have to be. Probably a little less performance and a couple of dollars less. That's been the way for the past few years with AMD.

 

[F1FAN]

ahh dam, still its worth it, im sure it will be cheaper then an overpriced intel build anyway. Just hoping they release them as soon as possible.

 

[stormy13]

Been seeing some rumors/speculation that the motherboards may start showing up in April, which unless things have changed those with an AM3 CPU can move to the new board (and only need new ram if using DDR2) when they do and just do a CPU swap when the new CPU's come out.

 

[Rhammstein]

I feel pretty confident these chips will be very good performers, especially Zambezi, the desktop Bulldozer. I mean look at how badly Fusion is destroying Sandy Bridge? Also consider this is a 100% new architecture from the ground up, so there's no reason to look at AMD's patterns with Phenom to identify performance.

If the Bulldozer chips are 'at least' as good as their mobile counterparts, they should walk all over first gen core i7, and IMO very likely the newest as well.

Numbers don't lie, unless AMD really goofs up manufacturing, I think we may have a real winner here. 8 real cores, 32nm, shared resources, all the old redunancies gone... it just sounds perfect. Also consider what's been said that, these dual core-modules perform only 6-8% 'less' than a native dual core. Using that math, you could easily suggest a minimal performance increase of 33%, but as we know it absolutely must be better than that, with shared resources, faster memory, larger cache, both L2 and L3.

I don't mean to try to sell AMD here, but I see no reason not to think these things will be very competitive, especially consider how mean the Fusion APU's are. They obviously got this right, 6 years in the making they'd better.

 

[jimbo45]

Hi all
IMO current processors are usually fast enough for 90% of typical computing needs.

I know that things like 3-d and holographic stuff will requre mega improvements in processors but what I would really love is for a bit of reality to get back.

Why for example are a lot of decent motherboards STILL being sold with only 2 slots for Memory -- it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to find 4 GB modules at anything like a sensible price so effectively a lot of mobos are limited to 4GB RAM.

I know there are mobos out there with 4 memory slots but these days people often want smaller footprints such as using an ATX size motherboard or even smaller.

Slow disks (the bugbear of ANY system and probably the most common cause of poor performance) are still being mass produced and fitted to even quite respectable machines nullifying your expensive fast RAM and processor.

Just by upping the memory on a NETBOOK to 2 GB (usually these have very modest processors) and fitting an SSD will almost give these tiny netbooks the same performance as a bog standard desktop with the rull of the mill components fitted.

I like the idea of faster processors but this is to NO AVAIL if the basic components aren't in place to take advantage of the processor speed.

Remember that in the "Real World" most computers are processing essentially I/O bound tasks which means Good Database design and optimal Disk throughput will count for far more than a processor upgrade.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[pparks1]

, im sure it will be cheaper then an overpriced intel build anyway.

Aside from the Core i7-980X, which Intel build do you consider overpriced? I've found since the Core 2 Duo days, that the Intel processors are solidly priced. Just looking today shows the Sandy Bridge i5 within $20 of the AMD 1090T. For me, I'm not enamored with 6 cores versus 4.

 

[F1FAN]

kinda a joke really from being an AMD fan, but when i was bulding a PC a year ago, i found the AMD phenom II to have a higher clock speed and higher cache then the intel quads at the time. Plus being cheaper.

 

[pparks1]

kinda a joke really from being an AMD fan, but when i was bulding a PC a year ago, i found the AMD phenom II to have a higher clock speed and higher cache then the intel quads at the time. Plus being cheaper.

Higher clock speeds don't indicate performance.

 

[Rhammstein]

If things go as planned, I'll be building right away. If you guys want, I'll do all types of benchmarks using whatever software and post all of the results, and also results from my present gamer rig. Although the bulldozer rig will run two 6970's and not the 580(was 'gonna' use a 580), so gaming benchmarks won't really be of any use; but that's fine because it's really about the Cpu and overall throughput.

Maybe I can get some idea's and document the build from scratch?

 

[jr26]

I've been waiting for Bulldozer for a while. They just need to get it out already

It will decide if I stay with AMD or move to Sandy Bridge.

 

[essenbe]

I've been waiting for Bulldozer for a while. They just need to get it out already

It will decide if I stay with AMD or move to Sandy Bridge.

Don't feel alone.

 

[jr26]

Yeah... The i5 2500k for the price is looking better everyday. But I can wait it out

I primarily game(some light 3dsmax and photoshop work) so that is what i'm basing my decision on and so far the i5 2500k and the i7-2600k are showing some awesome benchmarks(even at their stock clocks) in games compared to my current Phenom series CPU. I'm biased towards neither side and I just want the best bang for my money so looking forward to see the pricing and performance numbers.

 

[essenbe]

I'm not a fanboy for either side, I want whatever works best for me at a good price. I don't game and am too old to start but whatever I build will probably go to my Granddaughter so I would like something that is rather future proof. Truthfully, what I have now is good enough for me, I guess I just want to build another computer.