Hall of Shame - by Ed Bott

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I’m in the process of rebuilding a PC here—blowing out dust, upgrading some hardware, restoring the OS to factory-new condition, and installing fresh copies of apps I use regularly.

Along the way, I keep running into a sleazy trick that some software vendors play, and I’ve finally reached the breaking point. I am sick and tired of companies that try to make a quick buck by tricking their customers into installing software they don’t need. I’m experienced enough to bypass this stuff most of the time, but many of my friends and family members aren’t. And guess who gets the call when some add-on or toolbar has slowed their system to a crawl?

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I wonder if Ed Bott would work for free, the options are there not to install the toolbars etc and without this freeware funding most programs would cost us all money and there would be millions more virus ridden PC's due to all the extra cracks used.
 

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I wonder if Ed Bott would work for free, the options are there not to install the toolbars etc and without this freeware funding most programs would cost us all money and there would be millions more virus ridden PC's due to all the extra cracks used.
Perhaps, but it is still really irritating.

~Lordbob
 

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I wonder if Ed Bott would work for free, the options are there not to install the toolbars etc and without this freeware funding most programs would cost us all money and there would be millions more virus ridden PC's due to all the extra cracks used.

:ditto:

The program developers have to cover their costs somehow in order to provide the programs for free. I don't think it's to much trouble to have to uncheck a simple box during the program's installation in order to get the program for free. It just requires actually reading everything while installing to do so.
 

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It just requires actually reading everything while installing to do so.
This is the problem though.

While I can understand that it covers costs, I still find it really irritating...
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~Lordbob
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
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Intel i5-2500k
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ASUS P8P67 Pro
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2x 4Gb Corsair VENGEANCE DDR3-1600
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NVidia GeForce N260GTX Twin Frozr
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Realtek HD OnBoard Audio
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ASUS 24" Monitor
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1920x1080
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G.SKILL Phoenix Series 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
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Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W
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LOL, true, but it's a minor trade-off to uncheck them to get it for free.
 

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Self built custom
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64-bit Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
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Intel i7-8700K OC'd to 5 GHz
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ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
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64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz
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ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
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Integrated
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2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
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1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
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Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
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Thermaltake Core P3
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Corsair Hydro H115i
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Logitech wireless K800
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Google Chrome
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Logitech Z625 speaker system,
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Galaxy S23 Plus phone
LOL, true, but it's a minor trade-off to uncheck them to get it for free.
I suppose this is true, and since I read it it's not a big deal :p

~Lordbob
 

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Hera
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
CPU
Intel i5-2500k
Motherboard
ASUS P8P67 Pro
Memory
2x 4Gb Corsair VENGEANCE DDR3-1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce N260GTX Twin Frozr
Sound Card
Realtek HD OnBoard Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS 24" Monitor
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
G.SKILL Phoenix Series 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3R 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA II
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Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W
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Cooler Master Haf 932
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Fans
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Razer Tarantula
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Razer Lachesis
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not fast enough
maybe you shouldn't be installing software if you just blindly click 'next'...'next' and can't be bothered to read the screens...
 

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" It just requires actually reading everything while installing."

Agreed; but a lot of non-geeks don't, or don't realize they don't need all these tool-bars etc. They don't really know that it's not part of what I've recommended they download and install.Then they get back to me saying how do I get rid of this tool bar? or, can you come round and put my home screen back the way it was? etc.

I take your point that these little guys need to make some money for providing us with great free software but what's Adobe's excuse? J:)
 

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I always tell everybody to go with the custom installation and not the (recommended) default. But many think that is too "advanced" for them. Then I tell them you have to be either rich (so that you can buy the programs) or smart (so that you can deal with the free offerings). But being poor and dumb is not a good combination - that, of course, I do not say. LOL
 

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CCleaner is an unnecessary program? ROFL. If anything CCleaner has dramatically improved not only my computer speeds, but my privacy as well.
 

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Nobody said that CCleaner is an unnecessary program.
The discussion is around the various tool bars, home pages and other things that come in the installer for some packages of freeware and get installed automatically unless you are vigilant and opt out of them.
 

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Uncheck here if you don't want to not have the Toolbar.

Now uncheck here if you want to agree to our License and still don't want to not have the toolbar.

Seriously, it can take paying close attention for years to learn all of the tricks, and then they come up with new ones.

Yet I am completely cool with manufacturer's larding on the sponsored bloatware to keep prices ridiculously low (perfect widescreen Toshiba lappies or Acer towers for $349) as it has given me a whole new mission in life and keeps us busy here.
 
LOL, true, but it's a minor trade-off to uncheck them to get it for free.

The problem is that sometimes uncheck the boxes does not relieve us of some of these "inconveniences". Ask toolbar, for example, although we deny permission for its installation still creeps into the
hidden system folders. And it's not uncommon to be surprised to find it there when we open the browser.
 

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It just requires actually reading everything while installing to do so.
This is the problem though.

While I can understand that it covers costs, I still find it really irritating...
308.jpg


~Lordbob
What is that juggling ape....another unchecked option? :D
 

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Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
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HP 2009m(primary), Acer P191W
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Hera
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
CPU
Intel i5-2500k
Motherboard
ASUS P8P67 Pro
Memory
2x 4Gb Corsair VENGEANCE DDR3-1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce N260GTX Twin Frozr
Sound Card
Realtek HD OnBoard Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS 24" Monitor
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
G.SKILL Phoenix Series 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3R 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA II
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Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W
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Cooler Master Haf 932
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not fast enough
The purple gorilla replaces the "Search" doggy for Windows 8. :party:
 

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Hopalong/ Godzilla
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Intel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core
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ASUS P7P55D-E PRO
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8GB@1400MHz Crucial Ballistix DDR3-1600 4x2GB
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VIA Onboard
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Asus VS248H-P 24"; Samsung SyncMaster 941BW 19"ws
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Samsung 830 120GB SSD
Intel 320 120GB SSD
Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
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COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RS850-AMBAJ3-US 850W Modular
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COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN5-GP Black
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Scythe "Mugen-2 Rev.B" (2 ScytheKaze-Jyuni PWM fans)
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Logitech K-320
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Kensington
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Avast Inernet Suite
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IE 9 ; Chrome
Looks like one of those iternet polluters that I sometimes see in mails that were sent with Incredimail.
 

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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9Intel i5-2500k2x 4Gb Corsair VENGEANCE DDR3-1600NVidia GeForce N260GTX Twin Frozr
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Hera
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
CPU
Intel i5-2500k
Motherboard
ASUS P8P67 Pro
Memory
2x 4Gb Corsair VENGEANCE DDR3-1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce N260GTX Twin Frozr
Sound Card
Realtek HD OnBoard Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS 24" Monitor
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
G.SKILL Phoenix Series 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3R 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA II
PSU
Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W
Case
Cooler Master Haf 932
Cooling
Fans
Keyboard
Razer Tarantula
Mouse
Razer Lachesis
Internet Speed
not fast enough
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