For everyone concerned about buying the upgrade disk

[grouchpunk08]

My Vista Home Premium laptop came with no disks -- I had to create the recovery disks myself. What do we do in this case? Use the recovery disks?

Do the recovery disks allow you to do a clean reinstall? My laptop came with a disk, so I never used self made recovery disks. But if they let you reinstall, then I would assume that yes those would be what you would use. And if not, then you could just do the double install of win7 that was explained on one of the earlier posts on this thread.

 

[grouchpunk08]

Forgive me but I'm still a little confused (been a long day)

Does this mean you can't go from XP Home to Win 7 Home premium?

Do you have to have XP Pro?

You CAN upgrade xp home to win7 home premium.

 

[Snufffed]

My Vista Home Premium laptop came with no disks -- I had to create the recovery disks myself. What do we do in this case? Use the recovery disks?

You have to use the RECOVERY DISK or you can order normally for S&H disk from your manufacture.

 

[Snufffed]

You CAN upgrade xp home to win7 home premium.

XP Pro is not the same as Home Premium Pro= Professional

 

[grouchpunk08]

Here is the upgrade paths from vista in print from the upgrade path test matrix:

- No upgrade options for Windows Vista Starter (SP1, SP2), not even to Windows 7 Starter;
- Windows Vista Home Basic (SP1, SP2) 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit (x64) can be upgraded to Windows 7 Home Basic, Home Premium and Ultimate 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit (x64);
- Windows Vista Home Premium (SP1, SP2) 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit (x64) can be upgraded to Windows 7 Home Premium and Ultimate 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit (x64);
- Windows Vista Business (SP1, SP2) 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit (x64) can be upgraded to Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise and Ultimate 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit (x64);
- Windows Vista Enterprise (SP1, SP2) 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit (x64) can be upgraded to Windows 7 Enterprise 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit (x64);
- Windows Vista Ultimate (SP1, SP2) 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit (x64) can be upgraded to Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit (x64);
- No upgrade options for Windows Vista Home Basic N (SP1, SP2), not even to Windows 7 N or E;
- No upgrade options for Windows Vista Business N (SP1, SP2), not even to Windows 7 N or E.

 

[grouchpunk08]

XP Pro is not the same as Home Premium Pro= Professional

I said XP HOME can go to 7 HOME PREMIUM

 

[grouchpunk08]

for upgrading XP, microsoft doesn't have an upgrade path, meaning any xp upgrades must be clean installs, but the upgrade pricing still stands. Therefore, I'm not exactly sure on the restrictions between the levels on xp to 7

EDIT- I just read on PC-World that XP Pro will go to 7 Pro, and XP home will go to 7 Home premium. May not be set in stone, but it sounds logical from what the vista path is.

 

[harpua]

Ok now I've confused myself.

If I have Vista Bus. oem key and and a hard drive with it installed on it, I gather that I cannot use that to validate an upgrade to W7 home premium for some ridiculous reason. So then I would have to use the dual Win 7 installation method (described elsewhere) in order to use an upgrade version of W7 home premium, if I'm understanding this correctly, as if I had never even owned Vista.

 

[shekabhishek]

Will the Dell OEM vista disc work for an upgrade? Can I ask my friend in USA to buy the upgrade disc online for me, will I be able to download the RTM on October 22 from India?

 

[grouchpunk08]

Will the Dell OEM vista disc work for an upgrade? Can I ask my friend in USA to buy the upgrade disc online for me, will I be able to download the RTM on October 22 from India?

The dell OEM disk would work in an upgrade, but I'm not sure if getting your friend to buy the upgrade at the special pricing would be 'legal', but the OEM would work in an upgrading situtation

 

[SIW2]

The Dell installation discs that I have come across are in fact install discs - not a manufacturer image.

In that case, it will work fine.

Not sure if you can download to India from the US site - I suspect not.

 

[grouchpunk08]

Ok now I've confused myself.

If I have Vista Bus. oem key and and a hard drive with it installed on it, I gather that I cannot use that to validate an upgrade to W7 home premium for some ridiculous reason. So then I would have to use the dual Win 7 installation method (described elsewhere) in order to use an upgrade version of W7 home premium, if I'm understanding this correctly, as if I had never even owned Vista.

I guess it seems that way if you want 7 Home premium

 

[shekabhishek]

ok, thanks guys, but the US prices are so tempting Microsoft could have made so much more money if they had these prices all across the globe

 

[grouchpunk08]

ok, thanks guys, but the US prices are so tempting Microsoft could have made so much more money if they had these prices all across the globe

I agree with you on that one.

 

[harpua]

I guess it seems that way if you want 7 Home premium

I use TrueCrypt and Acronis True Image Home anyway, and don't run any legacy XP only programs, and don't need remote access to another machine, so yes, I believe that W7 Home Premium will meet my needs just fine and it seems to be a very good deal for only ~$50. Well worth it to be able to say goodbye to Vista for ever.

But I still don't understand how this upgrade validation thing works exactly. If, as was said earlier in this thread, it is the Vista installation media (and not the user's Vista key) that is used to validate the right to upgrade, it would seem that any Vista install disk should be sufficient to validate an upgrade to any version of W7 provided one has purchased the appropriate W7 upgrade key for the version they want to install.

So if that is correct, all one would have to do is insert an easily obtained Vista install disk when prompted and you are good to proceed to install any version of W7 you have purchased.

And if that doesn't work, there is always the double W7 (first w/o key and then upgrade from within W7 w. key) install route.

So I'm pretty happy to be able to get a version of W7 that will satisfy my needs for only ~$50.

 

[grouchpunk08]

I use TrueCrypt and Acronis True Image Home anyway, and don't run any legacy XP only programs, and don't need remote access to another machine, so yes, I believe that W7 Home Premium will meet my needs just fine and it seems to be a very good deal for only ~$50. Well worth it to be able to say goodbye to Vista for ever.

But I still don't understand how this upgrade validation thing works exactly. If, as was said earlier in this thread, it is the Vista installation media (and not the user's Vista key) that is used to validate the right to upgrade, it would seem that any Vista install disk should be sufficient to validate an upgrade to any version of W7 provided one has purchased the appropriate W7 upgrade key for the version they want to install.

So if that is correct, all one would have to do is insert an easily obtained Vista install disk when prompted and you are good to proceed to install any version of W7 you have purchased.

And if that doesn't work, there is always the double W7 (first w/o key and then upgrade from within W7 w. key) install route.

So I'm pretty happy to be able to get a version of W7 that will satisfy my needs for only ~$50.

I don't fully understand it either, I'm just going by the upgrade path provided by microsoft and what was explained to me on the phone. But yeah, if all else fails, then the double install would certainly work.

 

[SIW2]

So if that is correct, all one would have to do is insert an easily obtained Vista install disk when prompted and you are good to proceed to install any version of W7 you have purchased.

Looks that way.

I believe MS are really interested in generating the idea 7 has had a record pre sales run - Bestseller at Amazon, etc.

That may filter into the consciousness of businesses.

It will also influence the journalists who are getting the press releases.

 

[BRAQUET]

someone can send me a link to buy an ultimate windows 7 upgrade and what is the difference between box and upgrade someonne say me upgrade is less than box i want to say that the box is full and upgrade have not all like box edition i am right ,,,,????

 

[SIW2]

You can get the upgade in a box if you like. It is $14.99 extra plus shipping.

The difference is between the Upgrade License and the Full Retail License.

 

[grouchpunk08]

someone can send me a link to buy an ultimate windows 7 upgrade and what is the difference between box and upgrade someonne say me upgrade is less than box i want to say that the box is full and upgrade have not all like box edition i am right ,,,,????

Link sent, guy above me explained lol.