Using AS-ROCK OC Tuner for this OC?

[NeroDevil]

Hi guys,

I've just put together my first build, and she's running like a champ! (see system specs)

I've an AS-ROCK G31M-S R2.0 Motherboard, and an Intel Pentium E5500 CPU. The stock speed is 2.8GHz and I wish to OC it to 3.2GHz. Now, my question is - is the AS-ROCK OC Tuner software safe to overclock my CPU to this speed? If there is anyone with experience in this program, could you tell me what settings need changing to make the OC safe and reliable? Also, the chip is relatively cool even under load (40 degrees)

 

[Mashed1316]

Hmm, i don't know if OC'ing that chip will benefit you in some way.. i mean, i have a E6500 @2.93GHz and it's running just fine. but since you're asking...

I think it's safe to use because it is from the same manufacturer as your Motherboard, i guess it should work ok.

Do you have an Aftermarket cooler?

 

[NeroDevil]

Thanks for the info, Punkster!

And nope, its simply the Intel Refference cooler, but as I said, the chip runs nice and cool even under full load.

 

[Mashed1316]

Okok i see, well, what you need to do is download the software, install it, try a little bit of overclock and test it.

If you see temperatures going higher than your "comfort ones" lower the O.C., after that, stress it with Prime95 for a couple of hours to see if the O.C. is stable and there you go.

By the way, your Motherboard is not made for overclocking, it's just a mainstream series, i'd recommend a really slight overclock to begin with and then, take it from there until you find your exact point

 

[NeroDevil]

Gotcha, I'll give it a shot and hope for the best!

 

[Mashed1316]

Let us know how it went

 

[linnemeyerhere]

MSI's OC program's work well for small OC's. I'm sure AS-Rock's will be similar. The issue is still not understanding what makes for the best and most stable OC still is a mystery but it's all good as they say.

 

[sygnus21]

One thing to be aware of is depending on how you use the program, if you let it do auto stuff, you may find you have higher voltages then needed to achieve the same clock speeds if you did it manually. In short.... these programs tend to over-volt. What that does that mean to you.... higher temps.

This is why most overclockers avoid these programs.

No I have no experience with this particular piece of software, but I did try the equivalent (EasyTune 6) for my motherboard and "Auto" did over-volt some stuff.

Now, depending on the program, some (EasyTune 6) will also give you more control over voltages and other stuff. If that’s the case I recommend you try your hands at manual settings…. Though if you’re going to do all that, might as well use the BIOS.

My two cents.

 

[Lordbob75]

Well, if the OC works correctly, write down the numbers, and manually set it with lower voltages.

~Lordbob

 

[metamaycry]

problem going past 3.8gighertz

hey guys ive been playign around with the as octuner , i got massive cooler master coller and 900 watt power supply but it seems every time i hit 3.8 sopt with the octuner my computer crashes , its very anoying becouse it runs at 3.7 only at 30 degrres under load

 

[metamaycry]

would this problem be due to not enough power going thor the cpu

 

[Wishmaster]

Most likely just not stable.

Also, the idle temps mean absolutely nothing. To get a good idea where you stand, set everything at its stock settings.
Run Prime95 for a hour or 2 and see where the temps max out at. Im sure itll be much more than 30-40C.


Personally,I find Auto OC utilities to be a waste of time. Simply because they use very generic settings, and as mentioned much higher voltages than needed.
In fact, the auto setting may be pushing the RAM to hard.


I would look into & research how to OC through the bios.
In a nutshell, youll want to Underclock the Memory, then start overclocking your CPU, making sure the RAM stays within Spec.

This way you can test everything and when it does crash, you'll know if its the CPU, RAM, or NB thats to blame.


Also, I would strongly advise against running your RAM over its Rated speed.
RAM is the easiest pice of HW to fry while overclocking, and also more prone to cause issues, such as BSODS.

Of course this depends on the RAM itself, as some will OC decent. Still, Id keep it within spec.

 

[metamaycry]

thank u but?

well the asrock motherboard im running is very hard to overclock with bios settings , but with octuner i manage to run my i3560 cpu to 3.7 very stable. but still only runs at 36 degress under load, i tried runing my cpu max by runign a video converter and version of babcompany 2 which did the trick , so um would u be able to suggest a new cpu over clocking program to me plz

 

[sygnus21]

Wishmaster is right when she says overclocking software just uses generic settings to achieve overclock results. This usually results in higher than necessary volts as the software (software vendor) has to account for a whole host of systems thus will settle for a middle ground setting.

This is why most experienced overclockers don't use overclocking software since it doesn't include all the tweaks/settings the BIOS has.

No one is saying the software doesn't work, we're saying it may be pushing your settings too high for the overclock, which would show up in your load temps.

Anyway I would suggest you look to your owner’s manual to see what options you may have in your BIOS for overclocking features. And if you don't have any, or are limited, well..... that should tell you something.

And although the software works, and may be your only option, it still can't replace the manual tweaks in the BIOS itself.

BTW you might want to visit an AS Rock forum to see what users there are saying about that board for overclockability, and BIOS updates.

Good luck.

Any yes both myself, and Wishmaster are overclockers, and I can say I've toyed with Easy Tune 6 which is Gigabyte's overclocking software and it DID push my volts too high for my liking.

 

[metamaycry]

thank you

thank you very much wishmaster and syg.
i took ur advice wish with lowering the voltage to the dram , and i figured out how to over clock from bios but with great stress and still wasnt able to go past the 3.7 mark, i use the 10 percent more power rule with my bios and apemt to over clock the cpu but still not much luck but it let go to 3.7 a lot more stable the bclk frequency is curently at 173 but when i go to go high machine crahes and burns

 

[sygnus21]

As I said before.....

BTW you might want to visit an AS Rock forum to see what users there are saying about that board for overclockability, and BIOS updates.

I'm sure they can help you get the most out of that board - ASRock > Forum

I did the same when I go my Gigabyte board (gigabyte forum) and they helped me a lot.

Good luck.

 

[metamaycry]

cool thanks styg when i get home ill give the asrock forum a try

 

[sygnus21]

cool thanks styg when i get home ill give the asrock forum a try

Uh you can thank me by calling me sygnus

Anyway do let us know what you found out. It helps others here.

Good luck

 

[metamaycry]

it went well

np sygnus , i used the octuner and it very stable all i did was foud the programs max overclock and lowest and went in the middle give my cpu 3.8 gighertz a core, it rocks i was playing split second and mass efect 2 lst night and no lag all stable iots very good and the cpou heat is only 40 degres under load thanks to myv10 cooler

 

[NeroDevil]

Ironic how a topic I started a few months ago becomes active again.

Anyway, from personal experience, The OC Tuner is perfectly fine, but the tools for Overclocking within most As-Rock bios' are relatively easy to use - and I'd always go for lower level Overclocking as you have generally more control over the settings. In my As-Rock board, anyway, point to CPU Settings in the Bios, change the Clock Mode...or something like that, to "PCIE Async Optimised" - that mode keeps your RAM timings and speeds set to their normal level, letting you bump up the clock speed in increments till you hit the sweet spotm without killing off your DIMMS in the process.