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[Core7]

Hi there I am looking to upgrade my pc a bit not to much just a bit, please tell witch ram is best for gaming purpose mostly....

DDR3-1333 - Corsair DDR3-1333 4GB (2x2GB) XMS3 DHX Memory Module Kit : Sybaritic - South African Online Computer Store

or

DDR3-1333 - Mushkin DDR3-1333 4GB (2x2GB) Silverline Stiletto Memory Module Kit : Sybaritic - South African Online Computer Store

And then I want to buy this motherboard is this a good board or not?
Intel Socket 775 - Asus P5G41C-M LX IG41 Motherboard w/A8 + G + LK + SATA3 : Sybaritic - South African Online Computer Store

Let me just say the current board I have is a Gigabyte G31M-ES2C, only reason I want to buy this new board is because of ram I want faster and more ram

Thanks guys would really appreciate it.....

 

[essenbe]

As far as I know, the ram you listed are both good brands. I do not know about the motherboard. You should also check Asus web site for the QVL list to make sure the ram is compatible.

 

[zsxd45]

Hi there I am looking to upgrade my pc a bit not to much just a bit, please tell witch ram is best for gaming purpose mostly....

DDR3-1333 - Corsair DDR3-1333 4GB (2x2GB) XMS3 DHX Memory Module Kit : Sybaritic - South African Online Computer Store

or

DDR3-1333 - Mushkin DDR3-1333 4GB (2x2GB) Silverline Stiletto Memory Module Kit : Sybaritic - South African Online Computer Store

And then I want to buy this motherboard is this a good board or not?
Intel Socket 775 - Asus P5G41C-M LX IG41 Motherboard w/A8 + G + LK + SATA3 : Sybaritic - South African Online Computer Store

Let me just say the current board I have is a Gigabyte G31M-ES2C, only reason I want to buy this new board is because of ram I want faster and more ram

Thanks guys would really appreciate it.....

Seems good to me! As essenbe said, check if that RAM is compatible with the motherboard.

 

[bobkn]

The QVL (qualified vendors list) is here:

ASUSTeK Computer Inc. -Support- Drivers and Download P5G41C-M LX

It doesn't list any DDR3-1333 memory, though. That doesn't mean that it's incompatible; Asus may simply have not tested it.

Is there any reason you're looking at a motherboard with two DDR2 slots and two DDR3 slots? I hope that you're aware that you can't use DDR2 and DDR3 at the same time. In effect, you'll have two memory slots. (On the other hand, if you want a microATX board like the one you've listed, most of the Socket 775 ones seem to have only two DIMM slots. www.newegg.com lists a few full ATX boards with 4 slots, but Newegg doesn't ship to South Africa.)

 

[Core7]

The QVL (qualified vendors list) is here:

ASUSTeK Computer Inc. -Support- Drivers and Download P5G41C-M LX

It doesn't list any DDR3-1333 memory, though. That doesn't mean that it's incompatible; Asus may simply have not tested it.

Is there any reason you're looking at a motherboard with two DDR2 slots and two DDR3 slots? I hope that you're aware that you can't use DDR2 and DDR3 at the same time. In effect, you'll have two memory slots. (On the other hand, if you want a microATX board like the one you've listed, most of the Socket 775 ones seem to have only two DIMM slots. www.newegg.com lists a few full ATX boards with 4 slots, but Newegg doesn't ship to South Africa.)

I have a board it only takes DDR2 and that ram is so exspensive I might as well buy a new board and faster RAM.....Memory Graphics
DDR3-1333 | DDR3-1066 | DDR2-1066 | DDR2-800 | DDR2-667 PCI Express | PCI

 

[Core7]

I also have a question if I have windws 7 ultimate 32bit does is it any good if I have 4gig, does the games use the whole 4gig or what, becuase windows only use only 1gig or so?

 

[Britton30]

I agree with Bobkn regarding a dual type mother board. You'd have a better system if you got a LGA775 board with 4 DDR3 slots, and that type RAM is getting very low priced.

Check the FSB (Front side bus) spec on your CPU to see the max speed of RAM it will support.

 

[simmo]

I also have a question if I have windws 7 ultimate 32bit does is it any good if I have 4gig, does the games use the whole 4gig or what, becuase windows only use only 1gig or so?

Windows 32 bit of any variety XP/7 or whatever will only see 2gb...if you want to run 4gb you will need a 64 bit OS for it to be seen/utilised.

If you are buying a board that runs DDR2 and DDR3 you can only use one or the other not both. Both Corsair and Mushkin have good quality Ram tho personally I think Mushkin is the pick of the 2 and normally can be well and truly overclocked.

 

[Zepher]

I also have a question if I have windws 7 ultimate 32bit does is it any good if I have 4gig, does the games use the whole 4gig or what, becuase windows only use only 1gig or so?

Windows 32 bit of any variety XP/7 or whatever will only see 2gb...if you want to run 4gb you will need a 64 bit OS for it to be seen/utilised.

If you are buying a board that runs DDR2 and DDR3 you can only use one or the other not both. Both Corsair and Mushkin have good quality Ram tho personally I think Mushkin is the pick of the 2 and normally can be well and truly overclocked.

Are you stating a fact?

 

[marsmimar]

I also have a question if I have windws 7 ultimate 32bit does is it any good if I have 4gig, does the games use the whole 4gig or what, becuase windows only use only 1gig or so?

Windows 32 bit of any variety XP/7 or whatever will only see 2gb...if you want to run 4gb you will need a 64 bit OS for it to be seen/utilised.

If you are buying a board that runs DDR2 and DDR3 you can only use one or the other not both. Both Corsair and Mushkin have good quality Ram tho personally I think Mushkin is the pick of the 2 and normally can be well and truly overclocked.

Are you stating a fact?

It's been my experience that a 32-bit system loaded with 4GB RAM will see about 3.25GB. This behavior is due to something called memory mapped IO reservations. Those reservations overlay the physical address space and mask out those physical addresses so that they cannot be used for working memory. This is independent of the OS running on the machine.

The highest address accessible in a 32-bit system is 2 raised to the 32nd power which equals 4GB. But of those 4GB's the system will reserve a portion of the memory for the BIOS, PCI bus, PCI express, etc. And that usually amounts to roughly 512MB - 1GB (plus or minus a few hundred MB) depending on the specific system.

Memory Limits for Windows Releases (Windows)

 

[Britton30]

I also have a question if I have windws 7 ultimate 32bit does is it any good if I have 4gig, does the games use the whole 4gig or what, becuase windows only use only 1gig or so?

It should not use much RAM. Most of the handling of game should be offloaded to your graphics card since they are very GFX oriented. Games can ramp up CPU useage however.

 

[Wishmaster]

Even if you can find a Socket 775 board with 4 DDR2 slots, youd be better off than being limited to only 2.

That of course is if you can find a DDR2 4GB at a decent price.


As far as gaming goes, there will not be much diifernce (In terms of memory speed) with DDR2 800 or 1066 vs DDR3 1333.

So I would look at both. Find a decent kit thats 2x2GB.
Then get a motherboard that will support it accordingly.

More RAM will help, speed not so much. So either of these would be a good upgrade.


Most games are 32 bit apps, and can only use a maximum of 2GB system memory. Typically.
But Windows will also have access to more memory, and will tend to use a bit more since its available. This will help the system feel a bit snappier.


Also, your Win7 key will work for either 32bit or 64bit.
The downside is that youll need to re-install the OS fresh, but you can swith to 64bit.

 

[zsxd45]

I also have a question if I have windws 7 ultimate 32bit does is it any good if I have 4gig, does the games use the whole 4gig or what, becuase windows only use only 1gig or so?

Ok, the answer to your question is probably yes, your going to need some of it spare, the os uses 1.5 gb of it, so your going to need enough to power your games, i use 8 gb DDR3 at 1333 mhz but that is because I do more than just games, if you get an entire motherboard, if it is up to date and supports the ram, your set to go

 

[Core7]

The reason i want to buy this board is becuase it can take my CPU and also new ram DDR3 only going to use 2 slots

 

[bobkn]

I also have a question if I have windws 7 ultimate 32bit does is it any good if I have 4gig, does the games use the whole 4gig or what, becuase windows only use only 1gig or so?

Win7 Ultimate 32 bit works with 4 GB of physical memory, but not all of that will be available to Windows. The amount depends on your hardware, but 3.25GB is one value I've seen in real systems. It's basically the same on all desktop 32 bit versions of Windows.

32 bit applications usually are limited to using 2GB of RAM (each), although some can use up to 3GB if a large memory switch is set in Windows.

32 bit server versions of Windows have PAE, which permits them to address more than 4GB of physcial RAM. The limitations on 32 bit applications remain, though. PAE permits multiple 32 bit applications to run at a time without a lot of memory swapping, but it doesn't support 64 bit applications.

4GB is the tipping point between 32 and 64 bit Windows 7. You could go either way.

I wasn't able to find a link to a good article that explains this. (In my web search, any good links were lost amoung the thousands of bad ones.)

 

[Britton30]

Here are two articles to have a look at, one fairly easy and the other more tech oriented.
Clearing up the 32/64-bit memory limit confusion | ZDNet

Memory Limits for Windows Releases (Windows)

 

[bobkn]

The reason i want to buy this board is becuase it can take my CPU and also new ram DDR3 only going to use 2 slots

It appears that you're not paying a premium for having those DDR slots present, so you may as well go for it. I doubt that having them would harm the reliability of the system.

I think that the incremental upgrade that you're considering is likely to be a disappointment. The advantage that I see to it is that you might be able to carry the DDR3 forward into a future upgrade, which you could not do if you expanded your RAM to 4GB of DDR2 on your current board.

 

[Core7]

The reason i want to buy this board is becuase it can take my CPU and also new ram DDR3 only going to use 2 slots

It appears that you're not paying a premium for having those DDR slots present, so you may as well go for it. I doubt that having them would harm the reliability of the system.

I think that the incremental upgrade that you're considering is likely to be a disappointment. The advantage that I see to it is that you might be able to carry the DDR3 forward into a future upgrade, which you could not do if you expanded your RAM to 4GB of DDR2 on your current board.

Thanks bro thats what I was looking for on the spot mate,jah 4GIG DDR2 is the same amount of money than the 2 new products combined and faster....Thanks to all this is solved!!!

 

[Britton30]

You're welcome and good luck on the upgrades.