looking to upgrade, but am having trouble deciding

[Thornton]

i have been looking for really good board and new processor, i currently have a stock board with phenom 2 x4 3.4ghz black. for some time ive been wanting an i 7, but then i saw the phenom 2 x4 3.7ghz black. i tend to see allot of people who in my opinion are kindof intel fanboys and go a little overboard, i like the i7 2600k, but benchmarks can be done poorly and an opinion isnt saying much if its totaly bagging on the other. so the two things im looking at are.

Newegg.com - ASRock 990FX Extreme3 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
and
Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Desktop Processor HDZ980FBGMBOX

i dont need to know if they are the best, but i am getting fed up with how much the price keeps going up with the intel stuff, seems every time i look they have somthing better for 5 times more. if you know of any reasonable priced am3 chips that could be better for close to the cost i would appreciate it. and some info on the matter from someone who may have tryed both chips (intel i7 2600k or amd 4x 3.7ghz) or know about both would be appreciated

 

[Thornton]

also guess i never asked, is the processor even a step up from my 3.2? i would think it would be a drastic increase, but i could be wrong

 

[ignatzatsonic]

You can look here for a general benchmark on CPUs from AMD and Intel:

PassMark Intel vs AMD CPU Benchmarks - High End

The AMD Phenom II X4 980 scores 4750. That's about what an Intel i-5 2405S scores (4675).

Several AMD X6 processors rate higher---as high as 6301 for the Phenom II X6 1100T.

Some comparison points:

Intel i3-2100 at 3.10 GHz: 3856

Intel i5-2500 at 3.3 GHz: 6637

AMD FX-8150 8 core: 8341, the top AMD

Intel i7-2600 at 3.40 GHz: 8970

Intel i-7 3960X: 15327, the top overall

 

[Thornton]

You can look here for a general benchmark on CPUs from AMD and Intel:

PassMark Intel vs AMD CPU Benchmarks - High End

The AMD Phenom II X4 980 scores 4750. That's about what an Intel i-5 2405S scores (4675).

Several AMD X6 processors rate higher---as high as 6301 for the Phenom II X6 1100T.

Some comparison points:

Intel i3-2100 at 3.10 GHz: 3856

Intel i5-2500 at 3.3 GHz: 6637

AMD FX-8150 8 core: 8341, the top AMD

Intel i7-2600 at 3.40 GHz: 8970

Intel i-7 3960X: 15327, the top overall

thank you for the link, but alot of people i see online seem to dis agree with these, i appreciate the source, however if i could get more reviews from people who know first hand which is better

this does make me wonder though,why is it on allot of benchmarks, amd is not so far behind intel, unlike this one where amd is half the speed which i know from first hand experienc isnt true

 

[ickymay]

bang for buck the AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Six Core 3.2GHz

fastest without talking silly money is the i7 2600 3.40GHz Sandy Bridge Quad Core

 

[Thornton]

bang for buck the AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Six Core 3.2GHz

fastest without talking silly money is the i7 2600 3.40GHz Sandy Bridge Quad Core

no doubt, like i said i was looking at the 2600k. but to be honest, like i said before, im tired of intel running up the price because they have somthing amd doesnt... A TITLE!

 

[whs]

You never said what your main applications would be. Scores are one thing and not very telling. The real world is often different.

I would go for AMD. I agree with your analysis of the Intel spiel. And AsRock is a decent company and is known for good value. They use a lot of gold - LOL.

 

[Thornton]

You never said what your main applications would be. Scores are one thing and not very telling. The real world is often different.

I would go for AMD. I agree with your analysis of the Intel spiel. And AsRock is a decent company and is known for good value. They use a lot of gold - LOL.

my main applications would be bf3,medal of honor, gears of war, Bad Co 2, blender 3d, maya, 3ds max,dragon age, da2, soon da3 when it comes out. visual studio, expression studio, AD inventor, luxrender, darksiders 2, skyrim, and gimp. i know that this is primarily graphics, but i can run bf3 full 60fps at 1920x1080 with my current chip and gpu, with a faster amd processor will it be much better u think?

 

[whs]

Here I have to pass. This is mostly games of which I know nothing. I do not even play hearts. The games are always the first I delete. LOL

 

[pparks1]

I would not upgrade your AMD from 3.4 to 3.7. I don't think you will see hardly any benefit from that small of a jump.

 

[Thornton]

I would not upgrade your AMD from 3.4 to 3.7. I don't think you will see hardly any benefit from that small of a jump.

ok, so that meens i now have to ask, am i making a wise decision upgrading to amd, i know i want to and i do not care for intel, but is there an AM3 or am3+ chip i can get that will be a significant difference in a good way? i saw the fx series, but some people say they are not as good and will sometimes stutter, mebey someone elses opinion who ISNT a critic may be usful

 

[Thornton]

i found another processor...
Newegg.com - AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 3.6GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8150FRGUBOX
allot of bench marks say it is in the same ball park as the 2600 and 2600k, especially in fps it seems to out perform. but like i said in my last post, some people have had problems with it. and the price is about 50 dollars off from a 2600, so am i making a good choice if i where to do this or would it be better just to wait till i get paid again and try to go for the intel i7?

 

[Thornton]

i found another processor...
Newegg.com - AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 3.6GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8150FRGUBOX
allot of bench marks say it is in the same ball park as the 2600 and 2600k, especially in fps it seems to out perform. but like i said in my last post, some people have had problems with it. and the price is about 50 dollars off from a 2600, so am i making a good choice if i where to do this or would it be better just to wait till i get paid again and try to go for the intel i7?

just noticed somthing, ican find NO GOOD MOBOS, and fast! not a single lga 1155 that does not have outragously placed PCIe or have 3 REASONABLY placed ones. anyways, ultimatly i want more pcie 16 than the others, i like my pcie 1 and 16 stuff and would rather not hinder it because whoever designed a board screwed up, so the question is still. is an intel i7 worth the graphics and sound sacrifices? or do i keep with amd so i can run my sound card and 2 graphics cards?

 

[ignatzatsonic]

so am i making a good choice if i where to do this or would it be better just to wait till i get paid again and try to go for the intel i7?

Judging from what you have said in your other posts in this thread, you would not be happy with an Intel processor. You have stated you are "tired of Intel" and "do not care for Intel". So go with AMD. Why fight it? Get what you clearly prefer, by your own words.

 

[Thornton]

so am i making a good choice if i where to do this or would it be better just to wait till i get paid again and try to go for the intel i7?

Judging from what you have said in your other posts in this thread, you would not be happy with an Intel processor. You have stated you are "tired of Intel" and "do not care for Intel". So go with AMD. Why fight it? Get what you clearly prefer, by your own words.

thank you, and its looking more and more like i will. but if i have the best amd has to offer, and i dont know it, its not helping me to downgrade thinking im upgrading. and if the amd processor i get is glitchy for some reason id like to know before i buy if you know what i meen. i think it would be benificial to know from someon who hopfuly has the fx i was looking at, to find out what they say about it, not if its better or worse, or if its the worst one they have, but is it high enough up there not to be the thing every one would perfer not to have, or preferibly, is it somthing that gamers in fass would buy. if allot of people out of the majoraty want it, it shows the product is not being too blown out of perportion in most cases. so if i can get someone to post who has an fx who could vouge... or not for it, id appreciate it

 

[ignatzatsonic]

so if i can get someone to post who has an fx who could vouge... or not for it, id appreciate it

Lots of info from 8150 users here:

AMD Processors Forums

AMD Processors Forums - AMD FX 8150


AMD Processors Forums - FX-8150 really better than 1100B.E.?

AMD Processors Forums - Official AMD FX Processor Benchmarks

 

[Thornton]

so if i can get someone to post who has an fx who could vouge... or not for it, id appreciate it

Lots of info from 8150 users here:

AMD Processors Forums

AMD Processors Forums - AMD FX 8150


AMD Processors Forums - FX-8150 really better than 1100B.E.?

AMD Processors Forums - Official AMD FX Processor Benchmarks

thank you very much, im looking around and it looks like the 1100t is close following the fx and both bench mark almost double mine now, so i think ill look into the 1100t. but please if anyone wants to add somthing that i should know id appreciate it

 

[Thornton]

so i found one i think i want, the comments lead me to belive its prety good

Newegg.com - AMD FX-6100 Zambezi 3.3GHz Socket AM3+ 95W Six-Core Desktop Processor FD6100WMGUSBX

or

Newegg.com - AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4100WMGUSBX

both these looked good, but as usual, i would expect the x 6 to be good, but the x4 has better reviews the ive seen. also im a bit new to overclocking and really dont want to screw anything up, if anyone would mind teaching me a little bit on how to safely overclock my current or new processors to be more efficient, it would be much appreciated

 

[ignatzatsonic]

You can get some overclocking info on the overclocking section of this site, but your best move is to google for forums that specialize in it, particularly with AMD platforms.

 

[Thornton]

You can get some overclocking info on the overclocking section of this site, but your best move is to google for forums that specialize in it, particularly with AMD platforms.

thank you, so that narrows down to the other question in my last post, which of the two processors i had posted would you think i should buy, both are really good according to the comments, but i dont know that much about buying processors and dont know if one would be a "obvious choice"