Hard to live without a HDD

lostsoul62

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So I put in my SSD drive and it's fast and I have 2 external hard drives. So I'm on the phone and need some info from my data that is stored on my external WD 2TB which is a USB 3 hard drive and I have to wait 15 seconds for that thing to wind up in order for me to see my data and in the meantime I'm stalling for time. Once I see my data I can retrieve it in less than 5 second. So now I have to go back and install a HDD for my data so I will only have to wait 1 second instead of 15 and I’ll just put my WD 2 TB drive as a backup and backup my date when I have 15 seconds to spare. Why does it take my external drive so long for me to have access to it. Has anyone else experience this?
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 x64 RC1, Vista Ultimate, XP Pro
CPU
AMD 955
Memory
4 gigs - 1333
Graphics Card(s)
5750
Monitor(s) Displays
i-inc 28"
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
Hard Drives
2 SATA2 750 GB - 1 SATA2 1TB - 1 SATA3 1TB - 1 USB3 2TB - 1 USB3 500 GB, SSD 60 GB
Internet Speed
7 Megs
I believe (from doing some USB traces) that upon mounting an external drive, the System Volume Information folder is read/accessed. There's also all the power PnP stuff, etc., too.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7
CPU
AMD Phenom II X2 (dual-core)
Motherboard
GA-MA785GM-US2H
Memory
4G
Graphics Card(s)
integrated ATI HD 4200
Sound Card
integrated
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 24"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
1 SSD - Samsung 840 - 500 GB - OS and DATA partitions
1 SSD - Intel 320 - 120 GB (used for backups) - Misc/BACKUP
1 SATA HD - WD, 500 GB - BACKUP
PSU
Ultra X4 500W
Case
Ultra X-blaster
Keyboard
Microsoft Digital Media Pro
Mouse
Logitech WIRED!
Internet Speed
15 Mbps FIOS
Check the power management options set for the USB Hub(s) in Device Manager. Windows could be turning off the Hub to save power if the box is checked.
 

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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Built 2/11/2011
OS
Windows 7 Pro-x64
CPU
i7-2600 3.4GHz - 3.8GHz Turbo
Motherboard
Intel DH67BL-B3
Memory
8Gb - 2x4GB, Muskin 991770 PC3-1333
Graphics Card(s)
Integrated Intel HD 2000
Sound Card
Integrated Intel 10.1 HD, RealTek ALC892
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus LCD VH222H, Haier HL24XSL2a
Screen Resolution
1920x1080, 1920x1080
Hard Drives
Crucial SSD C300-128Gb,
Western Digital WD5002AALX - 500Gb,
Western Digital WD7501AALS - 750Gb
PSU
Seasonic 650W 80+ Gold Modular
Case
Rosewill Defender
Cooling
Stock CPU, Four 120mm case fans, PCH fan added
Keyboard
Logitech EX100 Y-RBH94 Wireless
Mouse
Logitech EX100 M-RCE95 Wireless
Internet Speed
3.0/1.5 Mbs
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
Microsoft Internet Explorer 11
Other Info
Antec Veris Premier-Multimedia IR Station,
Cyber Accoustics-3602 Speakers,
AFT XM-5U Card Reader,
Hauppauge TV-HVR-2250,
Sony LX300 USB Turntable
You can't expect the WD green drives they put in these usb externals to run with real HDD's. Get a 7200 rpm with at least 32 mb of cache or better is 64 mb and 10,000 rpm but now your're talking large sums.
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck.
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 miniITX
Motherboard
MSI P67A-GD80 b3
Memory
32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Z Series Card
Monitor(s) Displays
(2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050 p
Hard Drives
Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(1) 1 tb WD Black
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(2) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 3 tb Seagate Barracuda
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS
(1) Drobo 5N w/5 Seagate 3tb
PSU
EVGA modular 1000G2 80% gold rating & APC 1200 RS
Case
CoolerMaster Storm Styker
Cooling
7 case fans 140mm & 120mm, NZXT Kraken X60
Keyboard
(2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless
Mouse
Logitech G700 & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop
Internet Speed
Basic 120mbps down
Antivirus
Trend Micro Titanium Max Security & Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Chrome and IE 10
Other Info
5 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on NZXT cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd/Blu Ray optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro 8630 all-n-one
Hot-swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Netgear Nighthawk router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
Lenovo L420 i5 lappy with m sata
Drobo 5N advanced NAS
Or, it could be you are like me. I got used to the SSD and hard drives seem to take forever.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

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    ALWAYS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus X570 Crosshair Viii Hero
    Memory
    32GB G Skill DDR4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    On Board/Sennheiser PC37X Headset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X Asus 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2 X 1 TB NVME drives
    PSU
    EVGA 850
    Case
    Phanteks Eclipse P400A
    Cooling
    EVGA 280 AIO
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
    Mouse
    Logitech G502
    Internet Speed
    24/1
    Antivirus
    ESET/MBAM Pro/SAS Pro
    Browser
    Chrome/ Firefox/ Edge
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell 16 Plus
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Intel Ultra 9 288V
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" Mini-LED HDR600 Touch 90 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1600
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME
You can't expect the WD green drives they put in these usb externals to run with real HDD's. Get a 7200 rpm with at least 32 mb of cache or better is 64 mb and 10,000 rpm but now your're talking large sums.

Hate to disagree, but my WD 2TB EARS Green has faster read access than my 1TB WDC Black drive. 125 MB/s vs 110 MB/s and it only takes 10s to spin up (eSATA). It is dependent not only on the rpm, but the density of the drive. more bits crammed into the same space read at the same rpm will necessarily have a faster MB/s.
 
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PC/Desktop
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Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 4
OS
Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
CPU
i7 4770k 4.4GHz (44-44-43-43 turbo) @ 1.248V
Motherboard
ASUS Maximus VI Hero
Memory
16GB (8GBx2) @2200 MHz G.skill Sniper 10-11-10-30-1, 1.6V
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G
Sound Card
Onboard SupremeFX Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB (OS), Samsung 2x 128GB 840 Pro SSD in RAID0, 3x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB RAID0, WD 2TB Black external USB 3.0, 2TB WD20EARS Green external USB 3.0, 2x 500GB Seagate and 1 750 GB external USB, 1x 350GB external USB3
PSU
Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model)
Case
Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling
NH-D14, NF-F12, NF-A15; NF-P14, NF-P12,NF-A14, S12A PWM
Keyboard
Cooler Master Storm Quickfire Rapid - Brown
Mouse
Logitech G602
Internet Speed
126.4 Mb/s down, 24.3 Mb/s up
Other Info
USB 3.0 x8 , SATA III x8, eSATA, USB 2.0 x6. Samsung DVD R/W drive.

WEI: CPU 7.8, Memory 7.9, Graphics 7.9, Disk 7.9
Maybe I'm confused as to what the problem might be, but what you see is actually typical and normal. If you want the data ready quickly at anytime, use an internal drive for storage, and an external for backup.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i7-2600
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3
Memory
12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GTX 470
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp 2209WA
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS
PSU
OCZ ModStream 700W
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced
Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus
You can't expect the WD green drives they put in these usb externals to run with real HDD's. Get a 7200 rpm with at least 32 mb of cache or better is 64 mb and 10,000 rpm but now your're talking large sums.

IIRC, the amount of time for me to take a Win7 System Image of my C drive (15Gig of used space) is the same for an internal 7200 RPM HDD as it is for an external USB HDD (5400? or 7200? - it's an Iomega HDD). I believe the USB2 interface is limiting enough that a 7200 RPM drive will be no faster.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7
CPU
AMD Phenom II X2 (dual-core)
Motherboard
GA-MA785GM-US2H
Memory
4G
Graphics Card(s)
integrated ATI HD 4200
Sound Card
integrated
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 24"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
1 SSD - Samsung 840 - 500 GB - OS and DATA partitions
1 SSD - Intel 320 - 120 GB (used for backups) - Misc/BACKUP
1 SATA HD - WD, 500 GB - BACKUP
PSU
Ultra X4 500W
Case
Ultra X-blaster
Keyboard
Microsoft Digital Media Pro
Mouse
Logitech WIRED!
Internet Speed
15 Mbps FIOS
Check the power management options set for the USB Hub(s) in Device Manager. Windows could be turning off the Hub to save power if the box is checked.

I think this could be the problem so I went into device manager and I had 9 USB root hubs and I uncheck the box on all of them and it looks like my drives are normal. Thanks
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 x64 RC1, Vista Ultimate, XP Pro
CPU
AMD 955
Memory
4 gigs - 1333
Graphics Card(s)
5750
Monitor(s) Displays
i-inc 28"
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
Hard Drives
2 SATA2 750 GB - 1 SATA2 1TB - 1 SATA3 1TB - 1 USB3 2TB - 1 USB3 500 GB, SSD 60 GB
Internet Speed
7 Megs
Great! Thanks for the follow-up. If all goes well, mark the thread Solved. It may help someone else having the same problem in the future.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Built 2/11/2011
OS
Windows 7 Pro-x64
CPU
i7-2600 3.4GHz - 3.8GHz Turbo
Motherboard
Intel DH67BL-B3
Memory
8Gb - 2x4GB, Muskin 991770 PC3-1333
Graphics Card(s)
Integrated Intel HD 2000
Sound Card
Integrated Intel 10.1 HD, RealTek ALC892
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus LCD VH222H, Haier HL24XSL2a
Screen Resolution
1920x1080, 1920x1080
Hard Drives
Crucial SSD C300-128Gb,
Western Digital WD5002AALX - 500Gb,
Western Digital WD7501AALS - 750Gb
PSU
Seasonic 650W 80+ Gold Modular
Case
Rosewill Defender
Cooling
Stock CPU, Four 120mm case fans, PCH fan added
Keyboard
Logitech EX100 Y-RBH94 Wireless
Mouse
Logitech EX100 M-RCE95 Wireless
Internet Speed
3.0/1.5 Mbs
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
Microsoft Internet Explorer 11
Other Info
Antec Veris Premier-Multimedia IR Station,
Cyber Accoustics-3602 Speakers,
AFT XM-5U Card Reader,
Hauppauge TV-HVR-2250,
Sony LX300 USB Turntable
I run all externals on esata which negates the slow usb 2.0 issues and when I hook a friends usb 2.0 up and bring in large files the speed difference is palpable.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck.
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 miniITX
Motherboard
MSI P67A-GD80 b3
Memory
32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Z Series Card
Monitor(s) Displays
(2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050 p
Hard Drives
Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(1) 1 tb WD Black
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(2) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 3 tb Seagate Barracuda
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS
(1) Drobo 5N w/5 Seagate 3tb
PSU
EVGA modular 1000G2 80% gold rating & APC 1200 RS
Case
CoolerMaster Storm Styker
Cooling
7 case fans 140mm & 120mm, NZXT Kraken X60
Keyboard
(2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless
Mouse
Logitech G700 & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop
Internet Speed
Basic 120mbps down
Antivirus
Trend Micro Titanium Max Security & Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Chrome and IE 10
Other Info
5 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on NZXT cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd/Blu Ray optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro 8630 all-n-one
Hot-swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Netgear Nighthawk router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
Lenovo L420 i5 lappy with m sata
Drobo 5N advanced NAS
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