Microsoft needs to release Service Pack 2

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Just did a clean install this morning and there are nearly 90 updates to install, and this was just the first round of updates before the first reboot. Subsequent updates totaled over 100.

Come on Microsoft, this is a bit ridiculous. Its past time to put all those updates into another service pack.

Bah!
 

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It is to soon. 100 updates do not make a service pack.
 

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Just did a clean install this morning and there are nearly 90 updates to install, and this was just the first round of updates before the first reboot. Subsequent updates totaled over 100.

Come on Microsoft, this is a bit ridiculous. Its past time to put all those updates into another service pack.

Bah!

I perfectly understand your pain and frustration, i deal with this every day too.

If MS wont release a full SP, they should release a mini-SP or a roll-up that contains all criticals till february, saving us tons of time and bandwith for those with shitty slow connections.
 

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I suspect the next SP will start Beta arount September - once Win8 is out of the way - and release in early 2013. That just about leaves time to get another SP in before Win7 goes into extended status in 2015. :)
 

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I suspect the next SP will start Beta arount September - once Win8 is out of the way - and release in early 2013. That just about leaves time to get another SP in before Win7 goes into extended status in 2015. :)

Geez, there will be 250 to 300 updates by then. Does't exactly help with the issue.
 

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Don't forget that possibly nearly half the updates to date are not related directly to Win7 - they are for .NET4, IE, Silverlight, etc.etc., and would not be included in an SP2 anyhow.
 

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Just did a clean install this morning and there are nearly 90 updates to install, and this was just the first round of updates before the first reboot. Subsequent updates totaled over 100.

Come on Microsoft, this is a bit ridiculous. Its past time to put all those updates into another service pack.

Bah!


Hi there

With decent Internet speeds and fast hardware it shoudn't have taken long anyway --however point taken -- maybe at least if not a full service pack why not provide a method whereby people can say download the updates separately and then slipstream these into a W7 install disk themselves so if re-installing a clean version of Windows this sort of stuff CAN be avoided.

Doing it this way as well would perhaps make the release of a service pack not so necessary or at least only very rarely. Would be cheaper for MS in my view as well.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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slipstream these into a W7 install disk themselves so if re-installing a clean version of Windows this sort of stuff CAN be avoided.

They can.
 

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What SP2 gives you besides time

If you install Windows 7 SP1 and then spend a couple hours applying updates you get an updated system plus a few GB of replaced files you don't want. More time wasted to delete them and wonder whether you got everything and broke things in the process. I'd rather install all curent software even if it saved no time over the SP1-plus-updates route.
 

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or allow us to download each update as a standalone and integrate them into our own dvd. i actually create my own custom win 7 disk. i got win 7 pre when it first came out. at that time sp1 wasn't created, so every time i had to install sp1. hated doing this takes up way to much time, so i learned how to integrate the sp1 into my win 7 pre. hell i even figured out how to unlock all editions on one disk. now i only have one disk instead of one edition of win 7. every time a customer needs a fresh install ill just whoop out my all edition disk select which win 7 then have use the product key then baam done!


update i just seen that one guy post. i can use those updates then intergrate them into once os disk. thanks bud!
 

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Well I agree with jimbo that it would be nice to slipstream the gear - myself my first 7 machine came with a straight 7 OS and no SP1 and downloading that as well as the updates is no joke.

I have often wondered how come the OS's are made up in what seems to be a short form manner for want of a better term. Is it simply to get it out real quick and make the bucks?:confused:

It is a bit of a worry too when you see the mention of Windows 8, 9, and 10 almost like a production line:sarc:

Perhaps you could share the way fpresaidio?
 
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Maybe I'm going to take this thread over to another direction, but I have to ask....is it worth it to even bother complaining? How often are you reinstalling that downloading updates even matters? Everyone should have an SP1 incorporated disc by now, and if not, download one. If you find yourself reinstalling often, start using imaging software, so each time you need to reinstall, you can start up right where you left off.

There are simple solutions to the "problem", and they don't involve editing the install media. Most of us wouldn't touch slipstreaming apps with a ten foot pole. Simplify!
 

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I have an SP1 CD that I got from Microsoft as my Windows 7 was one I got when it was first launched so of course there was no SPs then. But I take an image every week so I have that to fall back on as well.
 

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Maybe I'm going to take this thread over to another direction, but I have to ask....is it worth it to even bother complaining? How often are you reinstalling that downloading updates even matters? Everyone should have an SP1 incorporated disc by now, and if not, download one. If you find yourself reinstalling often, start using imaging software, so each time you need to reinstall, you can start up right where you left off.

There are simple solutions to the "problem", and they don't involve editing the install media. Most of us wouldn't touch slipstreaming apps with a ten foot pole. Simplify!
Yeah see the point Deacon I suppose unless you are doing it as part of your business it really isn't much of a big deal and mate I tried slipstreaming some XP stuff the other day and I suppose the idea is good but heck you need a Phd in rocket science, cosmology, quantum physics, and probably live aboard the Straship Enterprise to even read the info let alone do it:confused:
 

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or allow us to download each update as a standalone and integrate them into our own dvd. i actually create my own custom win 7 disk. i got win 7 pre when it first came out. at that time sp1 wasn't created, so every time i had to install sp1. hated doing this takes up way to much time, so i learned how to integrate the sp1 into my win 7 pre. hell i even figured out how to unlock all editions on one disk. now i only have one disk instead of one edition of win 7. every time a customer needs a fresh install ill just whoop out my all edition disk select which win 7 then have use the product key then baam done!


update i just seen that one guy post. i can use those updates then intergrate them into once os disk. thanks bud!


Hi there

It's often not possible when updating software to do it by issuing each download as a separate stand alone entity which can be installed individually.

Reasons are very simple :

1) not everybody has the same set of software or even options installed.

2) Any large scale system will have PRE-REQS (those pieces of software or updates that MUST have been applied to your system) before the current fix / set of fixes will or can be installed.

3) Often a set of POSTFIXES as well -- these need to be applied after fixes via 2) have been installed.

With some large application software it becomes also just as complicated --take Office -- some people might have installed OUTLOOK while others might not have installed POWERPOINT or PUBLISHER.

It's a problem of what used to be called "System Integration" and for large complex projects be it in I.T or anything else is NOT an easy job to manage.

After the number of fixes becomes unwieldy then a "Service" pack is released which is essentially an in place update of the OS.

A service pack will only get released if Ms thinks W7 is going in the right direction. If it's only Corporates - and these people will largely stay away from W8 then a service pack isn't really necessary as company machines are usually pretty standardized and don't change much. Most companies are fairly fussy about letting users install stuff on their machines.

If Windows 8 Bombs -- the jury is still out on this one -- then W7 will be given a new lease of life (rather like XP when much to everyone's surprise an SP3 was released !).
In this case you can guarantee that SP2 will be released.

Don't expect anything this year though --Ms will be waiting to see what transpires with W8 and with the PC market in general- and of course its own Windows phone and Windows 8 driven tablets.

Given the complexity of the task I think that the Windows Update service does a pretty decent job even if after a brand new install you have to download a zillion and one fixes.

With really fast Internet speeds these days most people shouldn't have too much bother even downloading 1 GB of fixes.

Most machines these days don't even have DVD drives any more so even less reason to package stuff up into "Classical ISO's" either.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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You can get a SP=1 disc from Microsoft if my memory serves me correct this morning. This would solve the problem of slow internet speed.
Learn how to install Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
I didn't see the option for 32 or 64 bit?

Anyone know if the disc contains both?

I didn't see the option either, it must auto detect or both versions are on the disc.

Even though the article does state you need to know which version to choose, there wasn't an option to choose 32 or 64 bit, country and language were the only choices.
 

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