Why I will not buy another wireless mouse for gaming.

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The title makes it clear enough I suppose.
More interesting is the actual and final reason I have come to this conclusion.

It could have been battery life, or cost of replacements.
but it's not.

It could have been that no matter what it would always annoyingly lose connection quality and start behaving like a drunk 9 year old.
but it's not.

No, for all the frustrations I have suffered at the hands of my wireless mouse it was finally the weight. They're about 4 times heavier than the standard wired mouse I used in the past and am now using once again. In normal use the extra weight feels good and it's not something I was really paying attention too until playing battlefield 3 where I find myself shooting at range a lot more and having to make a lot of tiny corrections on moving targets. In that I have found the wireless mouse to simply not allow as much agility as it's wired counterpart. I will still use the wireless on my alternate computer just because I don't feel like making yet another purchase at this point, all in all though. I'm definitely doing much much better with a simple relatively cheap intellimouse model I think they actually stopped making about 3 years ago. It's simple, works with everything and equally important to me allows me to play with my left handed mouse configuration without complaint (or forcing me to curve my hand in un-natural positions). I've seen a lot of arguments about the new super high dpi mouse and all the love and money it rakes in. At the end of the day though I found the devices to hurt my gaming pulling me from a solidly positive k/d player to a solidly negative one.


I suppose I'm just saying if your wireless 10billion dpi 400 button mouse works for you that's great, I just think you wasted a bunch of money and thanks to the nature of those time vampires a lot of time trying to configure it just right for 10 different games.

..no seriously best of luck to you man, you're going to need it.
 

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I used to have a G7 wireless that I loved, I really did but, battery life was the cause of many a gray hair, even though I had two batteries for it. Well, that and the lost of connectivity for a millisecond at the worse time, right when I had to kill 2 or 3 guys in the blink of an eye :D)... but I still loved it very much.

I was able to purchase a G9 for very little money, 2 or 3 years ago, paid something like 35 bucks (pre-own) but, to this day, I can not get use to it, sometimes is to fast, sometimes to jerky, sometimes to slow, hard to say what it is but the button line is... I don't enjoy it and I wish I could get another one but, it pains me to spend money on another mouse :D

Bottom line... Yes, I would go wired instead of wireless but weight is not the culprit for me.
 

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battery and connectivity are probably the most common reasons.
For me it was a matter of function. I don't really care if the mouse has 50 buttons on it, I have a keyboard with with plenty of buttons on it. The mouse just needs to track properly and even first gen opticals can do that, basically anything made after the old ball style mouse went out.
The insane dpi counts seem to be more of a hindrance than a help in gameplay for me though.
 

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I've tried multiple gaming mice made by Razer and to be honest I don't feel the difference. I'm personally using an A4tech mouse with only 1000 dpi and I'm okay with it. I play Warcraft 3 TFT DOTA a lot and it's okay for me.
 

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For me it was a matter of function.
This the major headache I have with the G9... I can't get comfortable with it enough to make it function as it should. I have never had a bigger issue with a mouse than I have with this G9 but I am afraid to buy another model/brand for fear that I will have the same issue due to the technological advances. I just can't afford to buy a few mouses to test them out.

I don't really care if the mouse has 50 buttons on it, I have a keyboard with with plenty of buttons on it.
Again... we agree

I like it to have a few buttons as I have become accustomed to play my shooters with the help of the mouse. Let me explain

RB ----- move
LB ----- Shoot
LMB ----- Zoom In
RMB ----- Reload
Thumb Button ----- Melee

Rest of buttons I want it on the KB.


The mouse just needs to track properly and even first gen opticals can do that, basically anything made after the old ball style mouse went out.
Exactly, the wire of the G9 is weird and it hinders my movements, I have tried tossing anything and everything that is close to it but, no matter what I do, it just doesn't move ergonomically correct. I still play my shooters but I feel I enjoyed them more with the G7 even when I was having connectivity issues.

The insane dpi counts seem to be more of a hindrance than a help in gameplay for me though.
That does not bother me anymore, I have managed to figure this out really well, to the point where I know where I want to have it (with a push of a button) SO, if I am browsing the internet I have in color Red (different setting and dpi) and if I am Gaming, I turn it to Green (dpi changes and the buttons are already set for my preference).

What I do love about this G9 is that I don't have to set each game on a profile, I only have to set the buttons to a profile and use that profile inside the game keybinds. I don't know whether this is a software new thing or if the mouse has the capacity to work it out... I am leaning towards a software/mouse mix
 

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I have loved my mouse from day 1 - 'World of Warcraft Cataclysm MMO Gaming Mouse'

Nice big palm fit (which suits me very nice)
Light Weight
Nice button placement

Even though i don't game anymore, i can browse my pc from the 14 buttons built in... don't have to move the mouse around:thumbsup:
 

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I have loved my mouse from day 1 - 'World of Warcraft Cataclysm MMO Gaming Mouse'

Nice big palm fit (which suits me very nice)
Light Weight
Nice button placement

Even though i don't game anymore, i can browse my pc from the 14 buttons built in... don't have to move the mouse around:thumbsup:

You're sounding a little bit like a trackball fanatic.
...which isn't as strange as it sounds I actually know a few good gamers that use them.
 

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I have loved my mouse from day 1 - 'World of Warcraft Cataclysm MMO Gaming Mouse'

Nice big palm fit (which suits me very nice)
Light Weight
Nice button placement

Even though i don't game anymore, i can browse my pc from the 14 buttons built in... don't have to move the mouse around:thumbsup:

You're sounding a little bit like a trackball fanatic.
...which isn't as strange as it sounds I actually know a few good gamers that use them.

LOL but that mouse doesn't use a trackball :D
 

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I thought wireless was the way to go but after battery failing during a raid in WOW I opted to get a Logitech MX518, it's quite old but is still a very good mouse.
 

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I should probably take a moment here to note the massive difference between a standard mmo and a fast paced fps game like bf3.

There is a significant difference between needing buttons for 400 different abilities and macros.
And needing to be able to accurately target a long ran fast mover while correcting for bulletdrop over the distance and trying to dance around the two guys shooting at you from the next hill over.

...it's very different and so are the things I would look for in a mouse made for such.

I'm a fast paced fps gamer. I keep trying mmo's but I'll max a character in pretty much no time and just quit afterwards. I honestly don't understand how you guys spend weeks/months grinding out stuff to make a item +2 more powerful. It seems like the ultimate waste of time to me.

Especially when you can be almost guaranteed that an expansion will be released making all that work pretty much meaningless even in game.


ps. whoever came up with the concept of DLC needs to be dragged into the street and publicly humiliated for his stupidity.
 

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At the end of the day it all comes down to personal preference...

There is a significant difference between needing buttons for 400 different abilities and macros.
And needing to be able to accurately target a long ran fast mover while correcting for bulletdrop over the distance and trying to dance around the two guys shooting at you from the next hill over.
I have played both MMO and fps games with my MMO mouse and that mouse has been perfect, while i don't need all the buttons for fps, i just don't use them, they have never got in the way.

I honestly don't understand how you guys spend weeks/months grinding out stuff to make a item +2 more powerful. It seems like the ultimate waste of time to me.

Especially when you can be almost guaranteed that an expansion will be released making all that work pretty much meaningless even in game.
Saying it like that makes it sound like a job, it comes down to the kind of game that people like to play. The +2 may be something that people are looking to get but it's not a chore, they are having fun... thats the point of the game.

I have a big multi buttoned mouse and like i said earlier, i have stopped gaming however i wouldn't change the mouse as i have made use for the buttons in windows.
 

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You know I thought my wireless would cut it too, until battlefield 3.
Too much weight ...small corrections are made much more difficult by this.
and the time it takes to hit the dpi button is about the amount of time it takes to die.

Whatever works for you at the end of the day I suppose.
 

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You know I thought my wireless would cut it too, until battlefield 3.
Too much weight ...small corrections are made much more difficult by this.
and the time it takes to hit the dpi button is about the amount of time it takes to die.

Whatever works for you at the end of the day I suppose.

I'm defiantly with you on the weight but also size, let me explain (very simple really lol)

My MMO mouse is big and my whole palm pretty much rests on it so i can move it very quickly and precisely.

My other mouse (wireless nano type mouse {logitech but model has worn off}) is very small so the fatty part of the palm (fatty part = the bit at the bottom of your thumb :roflmao:) rests on the desk creating friction which was a right pain.
 

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i'm fine with my hp 1000dpi mouse that cost me 17$usd ;) works fine and is pretty accurate imo for me,along with my microsoft keyboard i'm good.
 

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i'm fine with my hp 1000dpi mouse that cost me 17$usd ;) works fine and is pretty accurate imo for me,along with my microsoft keyboard i'm good.

And this is basically my point.
Even lower end opticals than that I just like having the five buttons because it's what I've had for nearly a decade now. Not that it really matters the way things are going soon I'll be standing in my living room holding imaginary guns or just holding my finger to a screen.

The only thing I've really noticed high dpi mice doing is necessitating the deactivation of the 'pointer precision' option to work properly.
 

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Hard Drives
128 Samsung 830
256 Samsung 840
3 x 1tb storage drive (various)
1 western digital 1tb (eSATA)
1 Seagate 1tb (eSATA)
PSU
1 kilowatt SLI/Crossfire rated Silverstone modular
Case
NZXT Phantom + additional 220 fan
Cooling
Zalmann
Keyboard
Microsoft wireless 3000 (v2)
Mouse
MS - wireless 5000 (bluetrack)
Internet Speed
depends on if you ask me or my provider.
Other Info
The above information is provided as is, and the author assumes no responsibility for issues it may cause with your sanity or fanboyism.
The insane dpi counts seem to be more of a hindrance than a help in gameplay for me though.

I can't use anything over 1800 dpi - anything higher and it's a mega pita to use regardless of game type/task.

ps. whoever came up with the concept of DLC needs to be dragged into the street and publicly humiliated for his stupidity.

I would have gone for public execution, but humiliation works too ;)
 

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8 Pro x64i7 3770K 4.6GHz16GB G.Skill Trident X 2666mhzx2 EVGA 780 Ti Superclocked SLI
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Systems by SmartEyeball
OS
8 Pro x64
CPU
i7 3770K 4.6GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z77 WS
Memory
16GB G.Skill Trident X 2666mhz
Graphics Card(s)
x2 EVGA 780 Ti Superclocked SLI
Sound Card
SB X-FI Surround 5.1 PRO USB / ATH-AD900 Headphones
Monitor(s) Displays
x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung
Screen Resolution
5760*1200/ 1920*1200
Hard Drives
2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black * Sony Optirac DVD
PSU
Silverstone Strider Evolution 1200W
Case
Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition
Cooling
Noctua NH-D14
Keyboard
Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL
Mouse
Thermaltake Theron (Highly Recommended) + Razer Imperator
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
IE, FF, WaterFox
Other Info
GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
Fanatec CSR Elite Wheel + Clubsport V1 Pedals + CSR shifter/7G-H ▼Saitek X52 Pro ▼ TrackIR 5 Pro
Buttkicker v2 Seat Rumbler with Dedicated 5.1 and Sub Woofer attached to frame ▼
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Bloody Big Grin
No that's something I'm reserving for the guy that invented speed bumps.
 

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Windows 7 x64Intel i7 2600kG.skill Ripjaw 16gigs @ 1866Nvidia gtx580 (evga)
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Insane hobo technologies. ;-)
OS
Windows 7 x64
CPU
Intel i7 2600k
Motherboard
Asrock z68 extreme 4 gen 3
Memory
G.skill Ripjaw 16gigs @ 1866
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia gtx580 (evga)
Sound Card
Integrated HD audio + hdmi
Monitor(s) Displays
24" ASUS widescreen + 42" insignia
Screen Resolution
1080p (1920x1080)
Hard Drives
128 Samsung 830
256 Samsung 840
3 x 1tb storage drive (various)
1 western digital 1tb (eSATA)
1 Seagate 1tb (eSATA)
PSU
1 kilowatt SLI/Crossfire rated Silverstone modular
Case
NZXT Phantom + additional 220 fan
Cooling
Zalmann
Keyboard
Microsoft wireless 3000 (v2)
Mouse
MS - wireless 5000 (bluetrack)
Internet Speed
depends on if you ask me or my provider.
Other Info
The above information is provided as is, and the author assumes no responsibility for issues it may cause with your sanity or fanboyism.
I have for 10 euro, wireless mouse and keyboard.

But every year i have a new mouse and keyboard.
 

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Windows ultimate sp 1 64 bitAMD Athlon II X3 455/4e core activate AMD Phe...2*4 GB Team-Elite-1333 duel channelAti Readon 6850
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MSI
OS
Windows ultimate sp 1 64 bit
CPU
AMD Athlon II X3 455/4e core activate AMD Phenom X4 B55
Motherboard
MSI 760GM-P23
Memory
2*4 GB Team-Elite-1333 duel channel
Graphics Card(s)
Ati Readon 6850
Sound Card
Ati/amd sb600 high definition audio controller
Monitor(s) Displays
Packerd bell viseo 21inch
Screen Resolution
1680*1050
Hard Drives
WDC WD6400AAKS-22A7B0 (650 GB)
PSU
Adata HM-550 550W 80+ Modulair
Case
HKC
Cooling
Hyper TX3
Keyboard
Labtec 200
Mouse
Labtec 200
I feel your pain and frustration Magus. I too have sworn off wireless mice. Most of the wireless "gaming" mice you see around are designed specifically for MMO players. Response times can be a little higher, and they can afford the occasional hiccup in the connection. For RTS and FPS gamers, wireless simply will not cut it.

My previous mouse (which is still being used by my brother 4 years after I purchased it) is a Razer Lachesis. I currently use a Razer Naga, and it has been going strong for a year now. I am primarily an MMO player, but I do spend a decent amount of time playing BF3, and Tribes:Ascend. The extra buttons are fantastic for macros while playing MMOs, and it has the responsiveness that is needed for FPS type games.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit SP1Intel Core i7-2600k OC'd @ 5.0Ghz16 GB Corsair Vengeance PC3-12800 (4x4GB)XFX 695X DD (x2) in Crossfire
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Rig
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit SP1
CPU
Intel Core i7-2600k OC'd @ 5.0Ghz
Motherboard
ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z
Memory
16 GB Corsair Vengeance PC3-12800 (4x4GB)
Graphics Card(s)
XFX 695X DD (x2) in Crossfire
Sound Card
Realtek ALC889 (Integrated)
Monitor(s) Displays
XFX Triple Monitor Display w/ 3 ASUS 23.6" LCD
Screen Resolution
5760x1080 (AMD Eyefinity)
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 SATA III (120GB)
WD Caviar Black 1.5 TB x2
PSU
XFX ProSeries Black Edition 1000w 80+ Platinum Certified
Case
Cooler Master HAF X Blue Edition
Cooling
Corsair H100 w/ Noctua NF-S12B FLX (x4) Push/Pull
Keyboard
Razer Lycosa
Mouse
Razer Naga & Razer Nostromo
Other Info
ASUS ROG G74SX
-240GB OCZ Vertex II x2 (Raid 0)
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