New Install - CTD related to unsigned DLL's.

[treeman]

Hi all,

I reinstalled Windows 7 Professional 64-bit last week and after going through the process of installing drivers, letting Windows Update check for and install updates, I'm getting crashes.

The specific problem is related to programs that use Visual Studio 2005 C++, I'm getting a consistent CTD with MSVCP80.DLL or appinit_dll.dll_unloaded. I know the AppInit loads DLL's and unsigned DLL's will crash the system.

Also note that this never happened before I reinstall Windows. While reinstalling I upgraded from a 1090T to a 2600K, so new mobo and drivers.

I have 5 MSVCP80.DLL files. Here are their locations:

C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.42_none_db5f52fb98cb24ad
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.4927_none_d08a205e442db5b5
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.4940_none_d08cc06a442b34fc
C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.4927_none_88dce9872fb18caf
C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.4940_none_88df89932faf0bf6

Each DLL shows up as having a digital signature except for the one residing in the "x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.42_none_db5f52fb98cb24ad" folder.

I installed Visual Studio 2005 C++ Redistributable, plus it's service pack and patch through an administrator account and ran the programs as an administrator.

CCleaner did not detect any errors related to the DLL, just run of the mill leftover installer stuff.

Also I turned UAC off as soon as Windows installed and before VC 2005 only installed motherboard drivers, GPU drivers, and did Windows Updates.

If anybody could point me to the source of these CTD's and how to fix them I'd appreciate it (got to get my workstation back up and running!).

Regards,

Alex

 

[writhziden]

Uninstall each of the following, and then install using the links below. To uninstall: Start Menu -> Control Panel -> Uninstall a program.

Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable (x86)
Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable (x64)
Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable (x86)
Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable (x64)
Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable (x86)
Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable (x64)​

After uninstalling and installing the above, make sure to download and install the updates to each through Windows Update, as well.

I would also recommend not running with UAC off. Run in the default settings when installing or uninstalling programs. Having it off can sometimes cause some odd persmissions/ownership issues. Not sure why this happens, but I had a similar problem on my laptop at one point.

 

[treeman]

Uninstall each of the following, and then install using the links below. To uninstall: Start Menu -> Control Panel -> Uninstall a program.

Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable (x86)
Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable (x64)
Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable (x86)
Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable (x64)
Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable (x86)
Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable (x64)​

After uninstalling and installing the above, make sure to download and install the updates to each through Windows Update, as well.

I would also recommend not running with UAC off. Run in the default settings when installing or uninstalling programs. Having it off can sometimes cause some odd persmissions/ownership issues. Not sure why this happens, but I had a similar problem on my laptop at one point.

Thanks! I'll try this. I've already filled out two pages of troubleshooting on the internal forums at my work

Would you recommend installing the x86 and x64 packages? On Win 7 64-bit I should only need x86 or so I thought...

 

[writhziden]

You need both the x86 and x64. Sorry, I usually include that information when I provide those links for 64-bit users.

 

[treeman]

You need both the x86 and x64. Sorry, I usually include that information when I provide those links for 64-bit users.

No worries I installed both anyways, apps still crashed and threw an msvcp80.dll error.

Also if it helps the motherboard is an AsRock Z77 Extreme 4.

 

[writhziden]

Please provide us with your Event Viewer administrative logs by following these steps:

1. Click Start Menu
2. Type eventvwr into Search programs and files (do not hit enter)
3. Right click eventvwr.exe and click Run as administrator
4. Expand Custom Views
5. Click Administrative Events
6. Right click Administrative Events
7. Save all Events in Custom View As...
8. Save them in a folder where you will remember which folder and save as Errors.evtx
9. When asked, save the display information in English.
10. Go to where you saved Errors.evtx
11. Create a new folder by right clicking in a blank area within the folder Errors.evtx is saved in. You could also click New Folder at the top of the directory under the directory path box.
12. Name the new folder Errors.
13. Place Errors.evtx and the LocaleMetaData folder into the new Errors folder.
14. Right click the Errors folder -> send to -> compressed (zipped) folder
15. Upload the .zip file here.

 

[treeman]

Ok, got it zipped up:

http://www.sevenforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=209683&stc=1&d=1335825301

Thanks for helping check out this error!

*Edit: Updated system specs to include all components

 

[writhziden]

Hi all,

I reinstalled Windows 7 Professional 64-bit last week and after going through the process of installing drivers, letting Windows Update check for and install updates, I'm getting crashes.

The specific problem is related to programs that use Visual Studio 2005 C++, I'm getting a consistent CTD with MSVCP80.DLL or appinit_dll.dll_unloaded. I know the AppInit loads DLL's and unsigned DLL's will crash the system.

Also note that this never happened before I reinstall Windows. While reinstalling I upgraded from a 1090T to a 2600K, so new mobo and drivers.

I have 5 MSVCP80.DLL files. Here are their locations:

C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.42_none_db5f52fb98cb24ad
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.4927_none_d08a205e442db5b5
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.4940_none_d08cc06a442b34fc
C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.4927_none_88dce9872fb18caf
C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.4940_none_88df89932faf0bf6

Each DLL shows up as having a digital signature except for the one residing in the "x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.42_none_db5f52fb98cb24ad" folder.

I installed Visual Studio 2005 C++ Redistributable, plus it's service pack and patch through an administrator account and ran the programs as an administrator.

CCleaner did not detect any errors related to the DLL, just run of the mill leftover installer stuff.

Also I turned UAC off as soon as Windows installed and before VC 2005 only installed motherboard drivers, GPU drivers, and did Windows Updates.

If anybody could point me to the source of these CTD's and how to fix them I'd appreciate it (got to get my workstation back up and running!).

Regards,

Alex

Problem is located with C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.6195_none_d09154e044272b9a which is part of the following security update: MS11-025: Description of the security update for Visual C++ 2005 SP1 Redistributable Package: June 14, 2011

I unfortunately do not think that gets us anywhere beyond what has already been tried. Have you tried uninstalling and re-installing the programs that you get the error with?

 

[treeman]

Problem is located with C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.6195_none_d09154e044272b9a which is part of the following security update: MS11-025: Description of the security update for Visual C++ 2005 SP1 Redistributable Package: June 14, 2011

I unfortunately do not think that gets us anywhere beyond what has already been tried. Have you tried uninstalling and re-installing the programs that you get the error with?

Yes, the program has been uninstall freshly more times than I can count. I've uninstalled, deleted remnant files, clear the registry of it's entries, and re-installed.

No luck.

Is there a way to sign the DLL so that APPInit can load it without crashing? Or allow APPinit to load unsigned DLL's?

 

[writhziden]

The DLL has to be signed by the program that created it, so there is no way to do so after the fact. This is an odd problem. I assume you already installed Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Service Pack 1 Redistributable Package MFC Security Update ?

 

[treeman]

The DLL has to be signed by the program that created it, so there is no way to do so after the fact. This is an odd problem. I assume you already installed Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Service Pack 1 Redistributable Package MFC Security Update ?

I had it previously installed but I reinstalled. Instant appinit_dll.dll_unloaded crash, if I run the program a few more times I'll probably get the usual msvcp80.dll crash.

If the DLL cannot be signed then can I either

a. Stop APPinit from crashing when loading unsigned DLLs

or

b. Get a signed version of the DLL?

I work on the visuals side of the computers world so DLL's are a tad foreign to me

 

[writhziden]

Get another evtx log and upload it as you did before. Let's see if you are still getting the same error or if this one is different.

 

[treeman]

Here's my event log:

http://www.sevenforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=209699&stc=1&d=1335833520

Thanks!

 

[writhziden]

Congratulations! You have a new error that is not found through Google...

How opposed would you be to doing a clean install of Windows 7?

If you want to avoid a clean install, you could try a http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html

Before doing either, backup any important data on the system. If you want to try one last thing, I only have one other possible idea to try to resolve the problem. See if you have an application or service that is conflicting with the software running correctly: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...ation-conflicts-performing-clean-startup.html

 

[treeman]

Congratulations! You have a new error that is not found through Google...

How opposed would you be to doing a clean install of Windows 7?

If you want to avoid a clean install, you could try a http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html

Before doing either, backup any important data on the system. If you want to try one last thing, I only have one other possible idea to try to resolve the problem. See if you have an application or service that is conflicting with the software running correctly: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...ation-conflicts-performing-clean-startup.html

I'm reluctant to do a clean install again. I've done at least one a day from Wednesday til when I posted this thread. Each one sets me back two days and requires emailing various companies for reactivations on software.

All of my work is on separate drives from the OS, I assume a clean install will preserve their registry entries and prevent having to reinstall software?

I'll try checking for conflicting startup applications. I'm willing to do a clean install but a bit resistant to it if there are other options

 

[writhziden]

Repair install will leave the programs intact with their licenses. Understand the reluctance to do a clean install. Re-installing and activating software can be a real PITA. If you do end up having to go that route at some point, I would suggest once the system is working properly that you create a system image to restore to so you do not have to go through it again.

The experts in Backup and Restore - Windows 7 Forums can help with creating system images and restoring from them.