USER-TRACKING Firefox sparks Mozilla civil war

We are running out of places and people we can trust.

Trust no one. Instead go back and look at history. The haves have been beating up the have-nots for ages and they do it with the technology of their time. Yet, technology continues to advance in exponential ways. A storm is coming!
 

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Intel Core i5
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Intel
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RealTek
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Garage Mouse SW and some cheap Amazon China made USB device
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Garage Mouse and some cheap Amazon China made USB device
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50 Mbps (allegedly, depends on server)
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Defender, Malwarebytes Premium and Kaspersky
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IE 11, and Chrome something
And we're being told that the cloud will be safe.
Pull the other one *lol*
 

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Dell 033FF6 A00
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Integrated 7.1
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Dell 23" ST 2310 HDMI; Samsung 21" HDMI
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300w
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Dell
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1 x Case; 1 x Processor; 1 x Video Card
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Microsoft Comfort Curve 3000
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Microsoft Wireless Touch (Intellipoint)
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down 200Mb; up 12Mb (Virgin Media SuperHub 2)
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MSE
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IE11, Google Chrome
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Compaq Presario Laptop CQ70 with 7 Pro 32-bit.
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Several Raspberry Pi's B2,B3 and Zero
Several varieties of Arduinos
We are running out of places and people we can trust.

What's privacy on the net anymore.

and now with FaceBook being integrated everywhere.

I use CCleaner one a month.
 

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self-made
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Windows 7 Professional x64
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Intel 2.66x4
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ASUS P5QPL-VM EPU
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4-gigs
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ATI 4850 chipset
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Creative Labs XFi Xtreme Audio
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ASUS VH242H, 24-inch
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1920x1080, 16x9
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(1) 640-gig Western Digital Cavier Black, 64-meg cache
(1) 1 TiB Western Digital Cavier Black, 32-meg cache
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Coolermaster 600-watt
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In Win Fanqua Mid Tower
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an old Microsoft, natural, mult-media
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an old Logitech MX-500, (the newer mouse quit).
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1.2-megs per second down, 100 kBps up.
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--also, a MSI ms-163k laptop. Put in a 500-gig sata drive, increased ram to 4-gigs.
You're trusting

We are running out of places and people we can trust.

What's privacy on the net anymore.

and now with FaceBook being integrated everywhere.

I use CCleaner one a month.

I run FF using a script, which automatically runs CCleaner when I shut FF down.
 

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W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, ...AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2G...NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
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W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
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AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz
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ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
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12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
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Realtek?
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Samsung S23B350
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1920x1080
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WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
PSU
Cooler Master
Case
Antec GX300 Tower
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3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
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Wired Optical
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DSL
Antivirus
Avast
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Pale Moon (64 bit)
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2018-12-27 Upgraded HDDs
2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
Why do i belive that Microsoft could be behind this? Besides all those logs Windows itselfs collects, you all bother what Firefox might ave logged? Give me a break.

I don't logs from anyone, anywhere collecting data about me I don't know about. Knowing about it it doesn't sweeten the deal either.

I'm astounded there are people who AREN'T bothered that an ever increasingly insidious amount of data is being collected from an ever increasing wider variety of sources is deemed acceptable.

Lol people are bothered, they just know sh*t. It s easy like that.
As for me, i trust only TOR nd they trust me so far :evil-trackback-dual-user:
Besides what re the options? Being tracked by the ISP, Microsoft, Google or Firefox?

Windows is dead, long live Windows.
 

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Win7 Professional 64bit
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i3 530x
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H22 Fam
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4GB Kingston 1666
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XFX RADEON HD 4870 XXX
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Realtek HD 7.1
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Samsung T220 HD
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HDD 500GB
PSU
XFX 470W
Case
Thermaltake Tt
Cooling
Case Cooling aktive
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G5
Mouse
MX518
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4Mbit T-DSL
Just another reason I love my Opera so much. FF has been getting shakier and shakier the more ground it loses imho.
 

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Windows 10x64 Build 1709Intel i7 7700HQ Kaby Lake16 GB DDR4 @2400Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060
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Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
MSI GE72VR Apache Pro-416
OS
Windows 10x64 Build 1709
CPU
Intel i7 7700HQ Kaby Lake
Motherboard
Micro-Star Intl. MS-179B (U3C1)
Memory
16 GB DDR4 @2400
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 120Hz
Hard Drives
256 GB Nvme M.2 SSD

1TB HDD@7200
Cooling
Cooler Blast 4
Keyboard
Steel Series
Antivirus
Bit Defender Free
Browser
Edge
I have used FF since about version 3. In the last couple of years I have grown more and more disillusioned with it and am contemplating a return to IE full-time; I can use both but find myself using FF less and less. This may drive me away. Example: in the last 12 months, I have been unable to access Webmail from my ISP, thanks to a message from FF stating that "Firefox no longer supports this technology". I have another (Hotmail) address, but have had to move Webmail to IE, which is ridiculous. I have been migrating my contacts away to my hotmail address, but why should that happen?

Here is a forecast, based upon two factors: (1) the 'civil War' at FF and (2) what happened to Oracle when they took over Open Office and attempted to make it a paying proposition. FORECAST: A split in FF ranks and a move away to a new browser by ex-FF personnel.

Remember, you heard it here first!:D
 

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bertison
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Windows 7/64 HPremium.
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AMD FX-6300.
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Asus M5A78L-M LE/USB3.
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Corsair (2x4) GB DDR3 CMXGX3M2A1337CL9.
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NVidia/Gigabyte GT730 (2GB) GDDR5.
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Onboard.
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Iiyama PLE2407HDS.
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1920 x 1280
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Desktop: 1TB. WD10EZEX-00BN5A0.
Zyxel nsa310 NAS: 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14.
Cache Drive: Sandisk SDSSDRC032G.
Laptop Lenovo B50/80 128 GB SSD.
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Corsair 750M.
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Coolermaster N300.
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FRONT: (2X) 140mm. TOP: (1x) 120mm. REAR: (1x) 120mm.
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Logitech K290
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Trust Optical Wired
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15 Mb Down, 0.55 Up.
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Kaspersky Total Security 2017, Hitman Pro.
Browser
Firefox.
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Sky "Q box" and router.
Desktop & NAS - 30 Metres Cat6 Ethernet wired, via TP-Link 4-port switch.
Lenovo B50/80 Laptop, 2x Wileyfox phones, Lenovo TAB3-8 tablet - all wireless.
Grandchildren, their parents and friends as bandwidth 'parasites' at various times!
Here is a forecast, based upon two factors: (1) the 'civil War' at FF and (2) what happened to Oracle when they took over Open Office and attempted to make it a paying proposition. FORECAST: A split in FF ranks and a move away to a new browser by ex-FF personnel.

Remember, you heard it here first!:D

God I hope so.... Mozilla seem to have lost the plot, I don't know what they are playing at. Suddenly, they seem to have gone from being the browser that did their own thing, and did what they did extremely well, (a few bugs aside) to suddenly trying to... well I'm going to come out and say it, they are trying to be Google.

Its good to hear that at least some of the devs are getting unhappy with this new direction too, I am getting a bit dismayed at the supposed "Open Source for the people by the people" browsers attitude was "You don't like it? Use a different browser"
 

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Medion Erazer (note to self: insert model number) - with custom additions
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
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Intel Core i5 7400 @ 3.00GHz
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OEM supllied with PC
Memory
8GB 2133Mhz DDR4 (OEM supplied)
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Gygabyte Windforce GTX 1050Ti (Factory Overclocked)
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Realtek
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Acer Al1980 + HKC
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1360*768(HKC) / 1280*1024(Acer)
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1TB Toshiba
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OEM supplied (no power rating on case)
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OEM Supplied
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Stock
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Logitech Wireless
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Logitect Wireless
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40Mb/s Down 10Mb/s Up
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Defender
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Firefox
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