Solved Point of getting an SSD?

[ignatzatsonic]

Last time I was in the movies was in 1964 and have not watched TV in years (at least not in the US).

You are much better off for it.

 

[UnknownReverent]

I think my topic went a little in the opposite direction, lol. It is nice to hear opinions from others though.

 

[whs]

I think my topic went a little in the opposite direction, lol. It is nice to hear opinions from others though.

What blanks do we still have to fill in for you.

 

[UnknownReverent]

First of all, if anyone can manage to find a decent priced 1tb HDD, then let me know. So far I found a Seagate 1tb for 85. I'll be buying this tomorrow if I can't find another. Second, is OCZ a good SSD? Third, I'm assuming a 120gb SSD and a 1tb HDD would be good enough for what I want? I'll have my data on the tb, my OS on the SSD as well as a few of my applications. I'm not sure if I want the few games I have on the SSD or HDD. I'll be getting the SSD about a week after Friday so I have some time to decide and see if I find a better price on that as well.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Second, is OCZ a good SSD? Third, I'm assuming a 120gb SSD and a 1tb HDD would be good enough for what I want?.

Most people would probably point you to Crucial, Intel, or Samsung SSDs.

120 GB SSD is plenty big enough for most situations, but if you have 20 large games to install, some will probably have to go on the 1 TB HDD.

Windows 7 and 50 random applications probably won't take over 30 or 40 GB.

 

[UnknownReverent]

I was debating to put my games on the tb HDD anyways.

 

[whs]

OCZ is fine. I have 3 of them and never had any problems. But there were a couple of models that were defunct. You have to read the reader comments on the Newegg site.

For reliability, Intels are probably the best. I have two 3 year old Intels and they are still going strong. But they are also the most expensive.

Although I own a Crucial M4, I would probably not buy it again. There were some negative reports too.

The last one I bought (from Newegg) is a 60GB Mushkin Chronos for less than $70. It is still sitting on my desk, so I cannot say how it might perform. The 120GB model costs $103. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226236

 

[pparks1]

First of all, if anyone can manage to find a decent priced 1tb HDD, then let me know. So far I found a Seagate 1tb for 85. I'll be buying this tomorrow if I can't find another.

That is probably about the best price going right now. A few days ago, NewEgg was running a Samsung 1TB for $79, but they currently $109 for the drive.

Second, is OCZ a good SSD?

Yes, overall they are good drives. I would have some concerns with reliability. My preference is Intel or Corsair.

Third, I'm assuming a 120gb SSD and a 1tb HDD would be good enough for what I want?

Maybe, it all depends upon how much data you have to store. Only you will be able to tell.

 

[UnknownReverent]

At the moment I don't even fill much of the failing 640gb hard drive I have.

 

[pparks1]

Well, if you plan on having the same or similar storage needs, and you currently don't fill 640GB, you should be just fine with 1,120GB (assuming you have the 120GB SSD).

 

[UnknownReverent]

Well, if you plan on having the same or similar storage needs, and you currently don't fill 640GB, you should be just fine with 1,120GB (assuming you have the 120GB SSD).

I'm getting the SSD next week.

 

[Zepher]

I just got my second SSD, a 256GB Crucial M4. Right now I am copying my Steam and Adobe folders to it, then some other non Steam games.
Had to delete the local content of quite a few Steam games to get the folder down to size.

the 1TB WD Black that I am copying from needs to get RMA'd anyways since it sometimes make a abnormal grinding sound when reading.

I also had to add a PCI-E SATA card so I wouldn't have to remove another drive due to lack of SATA ports.

My friend bought a Crucial 128GB SSD a few months ago and was so impressed with it that he said I should get an SSD and offered to buy me one, so I took him up on the offer and got the 256GB.

 

[UnknownReverent]

I just got my second SSD, a 256GB Crucial M4. Right now I am copying my Steam and Adobe folders to it, then some other non Steam games.
Had to delete the local content of quite a few Steam games to get the folder down to size.

the 1TB WD Black that I am copying from needs to get RMA'd anyways since it sometimes make a abnormal grinding sound when reading.

I also had to add a PCI-E SATA card so I wouldn't have to remove another drive due to lack of SATA ports.

How many sata ports do you have?

The motherboard I'm getting has 4 SATA II ports and 2 SATA III ports.

The one I have currently has 4 SATA II ports.

 

[Zepher]

My current board has 4 SATA II and 4 SATA III.
I had 7 Hard drives and a BD-Rom, added the first SSD and had to remove a hard drive, I didn't want to have to remove another one when adding the second SSD so I got the 2 port SATA card.

My i7 870 setup had 9 SATA ports on the board and I was a happy camper with 8 drives and a BD-Rom, upgraded to the i7 2600K and couldn't find any mobos within reasonable price with more than 8 ports, so I had to remove a drive.
It seems that every time I upgrade, I have to lose a drive, lol

My Q6600 setup had 9 Hard drives, 7 SATA and 2 IDE, and a BD Rom drive,

 

[UnknownReverent]

Sounds like a lot of trouble, lol. I've never used more than 2, but I'll be using 3 now since I'm getting an SSD. Both of my SATA III will be used and only one of my SATA II.

 

[Zepher]

I store a lot of crap on the machine, I guess you can say I am a digital packrat.

 

[UnknownReverent]

Apparently, lol. I haven't even used my 640gb. That is one fat case as well. Do you leave it open all the time?

 

[Zepher]

Apparently, lol. I haven't even used my 640gb. That is one fat case as well. Do you leave it open all the time?

I kept the side panels on it, I was replacing a drive in that pic.
I ended up trading that case for some 17" Avalanche wheels for my Truck.
I bought the Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler and there was on easy way to mount it inside that case, so I upgraded to Cooler Master HAF-932 case

 

[smarteyeball]

I don't know about the luxury part. I would rather spend my money on a SSD than a faster CPU. In daily operation the SSD gives you more mileage in terms of performance. The disk is usually the bottleneck; the CPU only in rare cases.

By luxury I mean they are not initially imperative. I'm not debating/denying the benefits of SSDs for as you already know; I am an SSD advocate myself.

However in regards to more mileage, a faster CPU + a HDD to begin with, followed by a SSD a little later as per the OPS's plan would produce even better overall mileage in the long run than skimping on the CPU and obtaining an SSD to begin with.

In fact by waiting, the OP is a better position to grab a larger/better SSD.

Games are never a consideration for me. They are a waste of time. I don't know what I could possibly learn from playing games.

Games may be a waste of time for yourself, but they aren't a waste of time for everyone.

As for learning from games, you would be surprised exactly how much knowledge can be gleaned about many aspects of computing due to games.

In fact a lot of my diverse knowledge about computers and how they work are due to games being a catalyst.

Different file types and functions, OS services, cause and effect of such, how drivers work, software tweaking, modding software, how software affects a hardware, diagnostic skills like reading crash dumps/interpreting event viewer logs, general troubleshooting etc.

Then there is the hardware side things. What components affect what, what are the best for a given task, safe parameters, over-clocking components, what OS/driver/software affects what components etc.

Plus a heck of lot more.

Basically shedloads of knowledge, instigated by games. The antithesis of 'waste of time/learning nothing'.

 

[whs]

1. My theory is that the CPU is rarely the bottleneck in a system (unless you encode videos all day long) but the HDD is always a bottleneck. That's why I recommend to install the SSD first and a better CPU later. Ideally, of course, you do both at the same time. But that may be a budget problem.

2. Games - well I guess there are people who like them. But the extra knowledge you have listed is mostly useful in the context of games. But that's OK. It never hurts to learn something.