Would you do this and switch to Win 8?

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I bought a laptop about a month ago. It was a pretty good deal and I grabbed it as I thought I wanted Win7 since that is what my desktop is and new Win7 machines would be disappearing soon. Also my reading about Win8 didn't thrill me. Since that time I have watched the deals closely.

Now Win8 is out and the very first day I can get essentially the same laptop for a few bucks less. And I imagine there will be even more deals.

I really thought Win8 suits itself better to touchscreen and of course this laptop doesn't have it and I understand not many do at this point and those that do certainly won't be low priced.

So would anyone here buy the Win 8 computer?
 

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HP p6608f
OS
Win 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Intel Core i3-540 3.07 GHz
Motherboard
MS-7613 (Iona-GL8E)
Memory
4 GB (2 X 2) Dual-Channel PC-10600 DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)
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Integrated Intel H57
Sound Card
Integrated Realtek ALC888S Audio
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17" SDM-HS73 (a vestige from my old computer)
Screen Resolution
1280 X 1024
Hard Drives
750GB SATA 7200 RPM
PSU
250W
Keyboard
HP USB keyboard
Mouse
HP USB optical mouse
Internet Speed
15Mbps/1Mbps
Why consider it since you don't have a touchscreen and by your own admission, your reading about Win 8 didn't thrill you?

Many would consider Win 8 a downgrade. Why volunteer for aggravation?
 

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Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
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Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
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1600 x 900
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System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
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Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
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Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
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Antec Solo II
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Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
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Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
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Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
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Pale Moon
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All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
Buyers remorse I guess.

And Win8 is the newest, fastest ,etc. Reviews seemed to have turned positive as well. If I wasn't slightly informed I most likely would have not cared and probably gotten something with Win8.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP p6608f
OS
Win 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Intel Core i3-540 3.07 GHz
Motherboard
MS-7613 (Iona-GL8E)
Memory
4 GB (2 X 2) Dual-Channel PC-10600 DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)
Graphics Card(s)
Integrated Intel H57
Sound Card
Integrated Realtek ALC888S Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
17" SDM-HS73 (a vestige from my old computer)
Screen Resolution
1280 X 1024
Hard Drives
750GB SATA 7200 RPM
PSU
250W
Keyboard
HP USB keyboard
Mouse
HP USB optical mouse
Internet Speed
15Mbps/1Mbps
Buyers remorse I guess.

And Win8 is the newest, fastest ,etc. Reviews seemed to have turned positive as well. If I wasn't slightly informed I most likely would have not cared and probably gotten something with Win8.

I can understand buyer's remorse, but......

You knew Win 8 was due soon when you chose to go with Win 7 a month ago.

You informed yourself and found Win 8 to be less than thrilling.

The positive reviews you see don't over-ride the negative conclusions you came to---justifiably in my opinion since you are a mouse and keyboard guy, at least on this hardware.

Stand by and watch for a few weeks when I think you will start to hear uproars from people who just blindly bought new PCs with Win 8 without doing any research such as you did.

What would you have thought if you just blindly bought Win 8 without knowing anything about its interface and what you would encounter on the first boot?
 

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Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
What you could do, as I have done along with many others, is partition your hard drive and install the Release Preview (beta) and try it out. This is a dual boot setup and works very well for trying out new and different operating systems.

I tried this out on my desktop and with older hardware I had a lot of driver issues and just said no to that. Then, recently I tried it on my laptop and it worked surprisingly well. There are some minor differences from the RTM version vs the RP version. Overall it was a nice experience. It took some getting use to, I found it a bit cumbersome or even somewhat backwards but that's probably do to the lack of a touch screen, although I can't verify this.

So, try it and you decide whether you like it or not.
 

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Custom built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
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AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition
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Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4
Memory
GSkill 4 X 2 GB PC 8500
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon HD 6790 D
Sound Card
On board RealTek HD
Monitor(s) Displays
Dual monitors:Samsung SyncMaster S20B300
Screen Resolution
1600 X 900
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 1TB (primary)
Seagate Barracuda 2 X 320 GB
PSU
Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular
Case
Thermaltake Overseer RX 1 full tower
Cooling
Core-Contact 92 mm CPU Cooler
Keyboard
Logitech G510
Mouse
Razor DeathAdder
Internet Speed
50/5 Mbps UL/DL
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Optical: Super Muliti DVD burner w/lightscribe, Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1800
Windows 8 and the mouse do not go very well together. I would stay with /7.
 

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
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from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
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2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
I wouldn't upgrade to windows 8 as it isn't as good as windows 7. It only suits machines with a touch screen or a tablet. If you are a old windows user you will probably not like this OS. If you are a new windows you will not find it intuitive. I don't know what Microsoft were thinking, they should have created windows 8 and a windows 8 mobile.
 

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OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Windows 8 start screen and the mouse do not go very well together. I would stay with /7.
Fixed your quote.

The positive reviews of Windows 8 all seem to be the ones that have worked out there's a heck of a lot more to it than the new Start screen.
 

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CreepinJesus Mk. IV
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core i5-2500 3.3GHz
Motherboard
Asus P8H67-M PRO
Memory
8GB DDR3 1333MHz
Graphics Card(s)
On-board
Sound Card
On-board
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster BX2250 22.5" LED-backlit LCD
Screen Resolution
1920 * 1080
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility 3 120GB, SATA-III
PSU
Thermaltake Toughpower Grand TPG-650M
Case
Lian-Li PC-A04
Cooling
Standard fans. They blow.
Keyboard
Logitech K360
Mouse
Generic Logitech from the bargain-bin by the checkout
Internet Speed
Over 9000! ...Mbps.
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I certainly wouldn't consider buying a new laptop, but you also can't base your OS decisions on reading. Nothing takes the place of trying it out. I wasn't thrilled with Windows 8, until I spent more time with it. After installing Start8 1.0, I'm pretty much decided I'm going to Windows 8 on all of my systems.
 

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OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i7-2600
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3
Memory
12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GTX 470
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp 2209WA
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS
PSU
OCZ ModStream 700W
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced
Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus
Windows 8 and the mouse do not go very well together. I would stay with /7.
I don't understand this statement. Win 8 works perfectly fine with a mouse for me. It's designed with a touchscreen in mind but a mouse works fine.
 

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Home Built desktop, Dell G15 5511 Gaming laptop,MS Surface Pro 7 tablet
OS
W10 Pro desktop, W11 laptop, W11 Pro tablet (all 64-bit)
CPU
3.7Ghz 8700K i7, i7-11800H, i7-1065G7
Motherboard
ASUS TUF Z370-Pro Gaming in desktop
Memory
16G desktop, 16G laptop, 4G tablet
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon RX580, RTX 3060, Intel Iris Plus
Sound Card
High Definition Audio (Built-in to mobo)
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung U32J59 32" (2x), 15.6", 12"
Screen Resolution
3840x2160, 3840x2160, 1920x1080, 2160x1440
Hard Drives
500G SSD for OS; 2T, 10T & 15T HDDs for Data on Desktop, 1TB SSD laptop, 128G SSD tablet.
PSU
Corsair CX 750M
Case
Antec 100
Cooling
CM 212+
Keyboard
IBM Model M - used continuously since 1986
Mouse
Microsoft Pro IntelliMouse
Internet Speed
400M down 8M up
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
FireFox
Other Info
Built my first computer (8Mhz 8088cpu, 640K RAM, 20MB HDD, 2 360K floppy drives) in 1985 and have been building them for myself, relatives and friends ever since.
Windows 8 and the mouse do not go very well together. I would stay with /7.
I don't understand this statement. Win 8 works perfectly fine with a mouse for me. It's designed with a touchscreen in mind but a mouse works fine.
The mouse 'works' - but it is a cumbersome mouse interface. After all, it is a touchscreen optimized interface.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
Windows 8 and the mouse do not go very well together. I would stay with /7.
I don't understand this statement. Win 8 works perfectly fine with a mouse for me. It's designed with a touchscreen in mind but a mouse works fine.
The mouse 'works' - but it is a cumbersome mouse interface. After all, it is a touchscreen optimized interface.
I guess then that we can agree to disagree here since I don't feel the interface is anymore cumbersome to use with a mouse than any other GUI I've used.
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built desktop, Dell G15 5511 Gaming laptop,MS Surface Pro 7 tablet
OS
W10 Pro desktop, W11 laptop, W11 Pro tablet (all 64-bit)
CPU
3.7Ghz 8700K i7, i7-11800H, i7-1065G7
Motherboard
ASUS TUF Z370-Pro Gaming in desktop
Memory
16G desktop, 16G laptop, 4G tablet
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon RX580, RTX 3060, Intel Iris Plus
Sound Card
High Definition Audio (Built-in to mobo)
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung U32J59 32" (2x), 15.6", 12"
Screen Resolution
3840x2160, 3840x2160, 1920x1080, 2160x1440
Hard Drives
500G SSD for OS; 2T, 10T & 15T HDDs for Data on Desktop, 1TB SSD laptop, 128G SSD tablet.
PSU
Corsair CX 750M
Case
Antec 100
Cooling
CM 212+
Keyboard
IBM Model M - used continuously since 1986
Mouse
Microsoft Pro IntelliMouse
Internet Speed
400M down 8M up
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
FireFox
Other Info
Built my first computer (8Mhz 8088cpu, 640K RAM, 20MB HDD, 2 360K floppy drives) in 1985 and have been building them for myself, relatives and friends ever since.
After all, it is a touchscreen optimized interface.
By default, yes, but after installing Start8, I've found that I can use the normal desktop to be productive, and the newer, Modern/Metro whatever UI as a nice addition...but not where I want to be most of the time.
 

My Computer My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i7-2600
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3
Memory
12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GTX 470
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp 2209WA
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS
PSU
OCZ ModStream 700W
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced
Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus
A well respected Tech writer in our local paper reviewed Win 8. Here are some excerpts...remember I did not say this, he did.

Windows 7 catered to an aging audience who valued the comfort of the familiar over the opportunities of modernization. Windows 8 shows Microsoft’s determination to remain a relevant and important OS in 2015.

These gesture-based controls shine brightly on a multitouch tablet (like the Samsung tablet provided to me for testing). There are keyboard shortcuts as well, and it’s possible to engage them from external input devices. Even if you aren’t using a tablet, the benefits are immediate. Microsoft has taken heroic measures to reduce visual clutter. The result is a UI that’s not entirely unlike staring out at a Zen contemplation garden.

Besides simple usability, The Land Of Tiles And Magic offers a second serious benefit: consistency across multiple classes of devices. When you move from your 27-inch office desktop to your 13-inch notebook and then to your iPad-like Surface tablet, it’s all the same app with the same UI — and Windows keeps your docs and settings synced between the three on its own.

I can give Windows 8 an enthusiastic and unreserved recommendation. I don’t think I’m even going too far to call it the most exciting step forward in desktop operating systems since Mac OS X 10.0.

It’s a fresh look that shows an eagerness to progress beyond the familiar interface concepts that were considered hot stuff way back when Reagan was president. Windows 8 is gorgeous, but not at the expense of power.

Several things in this hit home including the fact that I eventually want a tablet and would prefer it be Windows based so why not have my laptop be Windows 8 too.

But will a Win 8 lappy network well with a Win 7 desktop? I basically use the laptop for surfing so would going to Win 8 be a waste of its technology?

A dual partition sounds like a good idea but I don't think I am comfortable enough to do it.

I guess I'll spend some time on the Win 8 forum and see what I can glean.

Ahh technology...
 

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HP p6608f
OS
Win 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Intel Core i3-540 3.07 GHz
Motherboard
MS-7613 (Iona-GL8E)
Memory
4 GB (2 X 2) Dual-Channel PC-10600 DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)
Graphics Card(s)
Integrated Intel H57
Sound Card
Integrated Realtek ALC888S Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
17" SDM-HS73 (a vestige from my old computer)
Screen Resolution
1280 X 1024
Hard Drives
750GB SATA 7200 RPM
PSU
250W
Keyboard
HP USB keyboard
Mouse
HP USB optical mouse
Internet Speed
15Mbps/1Mbps
The result is a UI that’s not entirely unlike staring out at a Zen contemplation garden.
i can just see all those Buddhists contemplating..."oh why oh why did i go with 8"
 

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Hewlett packard/p6512uk
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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7600
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IIx4 amd athelon 635 processor
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FOXCONN 2AA9
Memory
2x2gb
Graphics Card(s)
ati radeon HD 5450
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) AMD High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
samsung lcd tv 32"
Screen Resolution
1360x 768
Hard Drives
(1) WDC WD10 01FAES-60Z2A0 SATA Disk Device (2) Maxtor OneTouch USB Device (3) ST310003 33AS USB Device (4) WD My Book 1111 USB Device
PSU
?
Cooling
air!
Keyboard
wireless hp
Mouse
wireless Hp,optical
Internet Speed
1.10mb/s
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
Firefox
I don’t think I’m even going too far to call it the most exciting step forward in desktop operating systems since Mac OS X 10.0.
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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
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2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
The only way I would buy a Win 8 machine is if I could upgrade back to Win 7.
 

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PC/Desktop
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Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
The only way I would buy a Win 8 machine is if I could upgrade back to Win 7.
Actually I heard you can. A machine with Win 8 preinstalled can go to Win 7 but if you upgraded your Win 7 to Win 8 there is no going back.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP p6608f
OS
Win 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Intel Core i3-540 3.07 GHz
Motherboard
MS-7613 (Iona-GL8E)
Memory
4 GB (2 X 2) Dual-Channel PC-10600 DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)
Graphics Card(s)
Integrated Intel H57
Sound Card
Integrated Realtek ALC888S Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
17" SDM-HS73 (a vestige from my old computer)
Screen Resolution
1280 X 1024
Hard Drives
750GB SATA 7200 RPM
PSU
250W
Keyboard
HP USB keyboard
Mouse
HP USB optical mouse
Internet Speed
15Mbps/1Mbps
Well lets see a news paper person telling us Windows 8 is great because it looks and works like a Mac. I'm for sure that is not a selling point.
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
But will a Win 8 lappy network well with a Win 7 desktop? I basically use the laptop for surfing so would going to Win 8 be a waste of its technology?
If you network properly, without the use of "wizards" and such, networking between multiple versions of Windows has never been an issue. The principles behind Windows networking haven't changed since Windows 2000 was released.
 

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OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i7-2600
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3
Memory
12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GTX 470
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp 2209WA
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS
PSU
OCZ ModStream 700W
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced
Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus
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