4870x2 or GTX 295?

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So, i bought my new computer and i can Choose between those

So, if i will get the GTX 295, i will have to pay 250$ more than if i would have the 4870x2 from ATI.

So which one i choose?

I searched many websites making comparisons, and all of them are unfair.
For example, they run a Nvidia Based Benchmark on ATI, or vice-versa.
So, which one is better?

Thanks,
Alex.
 

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Excuse me but can you tell me what motherboard you have?
 

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GTX 295 is about 15% faster than 4870x2, but difference in price is too big (no cost effective).
 

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Excuse me but can you tell me what motherboard you have?
I have the Intel X58.

GTX 295 is about 15% faster than 4870x2, but difference in price is too big (no cost effective).

Ok, Thanks. I also wanted to know up to how much i can Crossfire the 4870x2. I mean, 2, 3, 4 times?
 

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I also wanted to know up to how much i can Crossfire the 4870x2. I mean, 2, 3, 4 times?
As far as I know Intel X58 based mainboard has only two PCI slots for ATI graphic cards.
 

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Ok then its a free pick between the two(the mb is not
CF of SLI oriented)

The Ati has more shadders, supports directx 10.1 (if it means
anything to you), and has 2 GPUs(just like having CF)

The nvidia has less shadders(but they are "more powerful"),
PhysiX support, And 1 strong GPU(rather than Ati witch has 2x more the
power consumption)

I personaly would wait until Ati or Nvidia publish their first
DirectX 11 certified cards.
 

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I personaly would wait until Ati or Nvidia publish their first
DirectX 11 certified cards.

Sassa beat me to it, but agreed none the less!
 

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Ok then its a free pick between the two(the mb is not
CF of SLI oriented)

The Ati has more shadders, supports directx 10.1 (if it means
anything to you), and has 2 GPUs(just like having CF)

The nvidia has less shadders(but they are "more powerful"),
PhysiX support, And 1 strong GPU(rather than Ati witch has 2x more the
power consumption)

I personaly would wait until Ati or Nvidia publish their first
DirectX 11 certified cards.


Sorry to correct you but the GTX295 is a dual GPU card, it also comes in a dual GPU single PCB model as well.

gtx295d.jpg

nvidia_single_pcb_geforce_gtx_295_tcm.jpg
 

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Sorry to correct you but the GTX295 is a dual GPU card, it also comes in a dual GPU single PCB model as well.

gtx295d.jpg

nvidia_single_pcb_geforce_gtx_295_tcm.jpg

:doh:doh! Ive mixed it with the 285 model! Thx for correcting me!
 

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But won't the GTX 295 and 4870x2 be compatible with the new DirectX 11?
 

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But won't the GTX 295 and 4870x2 be compatible with the new DirectX 11?

No they will not be able to use the new DX11, only new cards with the appropriate hardware will be able to use it, it was the same for DX10, a DX9 card could not use DX10.
 

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What does that means?
dx11 Support?
it means that dx10 card can't run dx11 features (like dx9 card which had shader 3.0 couldn't run shader 4.0 which is a dx10 feature)
 

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it means that dx10 card can't run dx11 features (like dx9 card which had shader 3.0 couldn't run shader 4.0 which is a dx10 feature)

Ok, just one more quick question.
Can i make Crossfire with 4870x2 and a 4870
They are both the same right? but one is Factory Crossfired. I think.
 

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Ok, just one more quick question.
Can i make Crossfire with 4870x2 and a 4870
They are both the same right? but one is Factory Crossfired. I think.

Nope, i dont think so, you can do something like the QuadSLI=QuadCF(?)
linking two dual core gfx
 

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Ok, just one more quick question.
Can i make Crossfire with 4870x2 and a 4870
They are both the same right? but one is Factory Crossfired. I think.
I'm not sure, give me a minute to check it out.
 

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