Would it be sane to upgrade to closed loop watercooling?

Erick Aguilar

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Well, I currently have a CM N520 with my A10-5800K.
I tried to overclock it, but it seems my cooler was not able to bring down the temperatures going past 4.3GHZ. Getting incredibly close to 70C, and that's my limit.

I was able if a closed loop cooling kit such as Corsairs H70 or Antech Kuhler 920 would be a good investment in terms of cooling performance over my N520?

Thanks for your time and opinions.
 

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Assuming that the N520 is mounted well and clean so it's running at it's best, the upgrade to a quality closed loop water will help and may not be drastic at idle temps but should drop temps nicely at full tilt gaming and or high CPU activities. Look at the H80i as a path as well and depending on the case many other new arrivals like NZXT line up using 140mm mounts.
 

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7 case fans 140mm & 120mm, NZXT Kraken X60
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I would be limited to 120mm for my back exhaust as my Thermaltake MS-I would not be able to fit both the Radiator and Fans in the superior exhaust vents and clear the motherboard.

So I'm thinking H60/70.

And if I'm able to find one from a reputable seller in Mexico, then the H80. My store only carry the 60 and 70 series.
How good is the H80?
 

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Windows 7 professional X64
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AMD A10-5800K OC@ 4.4Ghz.
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I would be limited to 120mm for my back exhaust as my Thermaltake MS-I would not be able to fit both the Radiator and Fans in the superior exhaust vents and clear the motherboard.

So I'm thinking H60/70.

And if I'm able to find one from a reputable seller in Mexico, then the H80. My store only carry the 60 and 70 series.
How good is the H80?

Corsair Hydro H80 Review » Page 4 - Testing:Setup & Results - Overclockers Club

Looks like it's similar in performance to a large, expensive air cooler. The gains going from model 60 to 70 to 80 seem to be incremental. People sometimes replace the fans with quieter third-party ones. The main thing that I don't like about it is that in the recommended configuration, the fans exhaust into the case.
 

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eVGA GTX680
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Corsair Force GT, 120 GB
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I would be limited to 120mm for my back exhaust as my Thermaltake MS-I would not be able to fit both the Radiator and Fans in the superior exhaust vents and clear the motherboard.

So I'm thinking H60/70.

And if I'm able to find one from a reputable seller in Mexico, then the H80. My store only carry the 60 and 70 series.
How good is the H80?

Corsair Hydro H80 Review » Page 4 - Testing:Setup & Results - Overclockers Club

Looks like it's similar in performance to a large, expensive air cooler. The gains going from model 60 to 70 to 80 seem to be incremental. People sometimes replace the fans with quieter third-party ones. The main thing that I don't like about it is that in the recommended configuration, the fans exhaust into the case.

Yeah, it seems the infamous Noctua NH-D14 is cheaper than the H80.
Now I wonder if it would be better to purchase the D14 instead.. But it's size puts me down.
And superficially, I dislike the color of the fans, but they perform beautifully. Oh if they only had other colors.
 

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Windows 7 professional X64AMD A10-5800K OC@ 4.4Ghz.8GB Kingston HyperX Blu 1333mhzXFX HD7870 2GB Core Edition
Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 professional X64
CPU
AMD A10-5800K OC@ 4.4Ghz.
Motherboard
Gigabyte F2A85X-UP4
Memory
8GB Kingston HyperX Blu 1333mhz
Graphics Card(s)
XFX HD7870 2GB Core Edition
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer AL2216W
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 500gb 7200rpm
Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 7200rpm
PSU
Cooler Master Silent Pro M 850W
Case
Thermaltake Commander MS-I
Cooling
Cooler Master N520
Mouse
Logitech M504
Internet Speed
10Mbps
The Noctua cooling solution is an outstanding performer and the fans .......well once you use them the color becomes beautiful as silence is a beautiful thing. For air cooling solutions it doesn't get better.
 

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A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck.
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Windows 7 Ultimate 64
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i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 miniITX
Motherboard
MSI P67A-GD80 b3
Memory
32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Z Series Card
Monitor(s) Displays
(2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050 p
Hard Drives
Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(1) 1 tb WD Black
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(2) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 3 tb Seagate Barracuda
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS
(1) Drobo 5N w/5 Seagate 3tb
PSU
EVGA modular 1000G2 80% gold rating & APC 1200 RS
Case
CoolerMaster Storm Styker
Cooling
7 case fans 140mm & 120mm, NZXT Kraken X60
Keyboard
(2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless
Mouse
Logitech G700 & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop
Internet Speed
Basic 120mbps down
Antivirus
Trend Micro Titanium Max Security & Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Chrome and IE 10
Other Info
5 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on NZXT cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd/Blu Ray optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro 8630 all-n-one
Hot-swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Netgear Nighthawk router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
Lenovo L420 i5 lappy with m sata
Drobo 5N advanced NAS
Yeah, it seems the infamous Noctua NH-D14 is cheaper than the H80.
Now I wonder if it would be better to purchase the D14 instead.. But it's size puts me down.
And superficially, I dislike the color of the fans, but they perform beautifully. Oh if they only had other colors.

The fans aren't difficult to replace on an NH-D14. I did it because the stock fans aren't PWM. (They are PWM on the LGA2011 version.)

The NH-D14 is huge. It doesn't require low profile RAM to clear, but I'd still have to remove it to get to the DIMMs.
 

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Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1Intel Core I7-3930k16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133eVGA GTX680
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
homegrown
OS
Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core I7-3930k
Motherboard
Asus P9X79 Pro
Memory
16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133
Graphics Card(s)
eVGA GTX680
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Titanium
Monitor(s) Displays
As PA246Q
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1200
Hard Drives
Corsair Force GT, 120 GB
WDC 1.5TB Caviar Black
PSU
PCP&C Silencer 750 Crossfire
Case
Silverstone FT02
Cooling
Noctua NH-D14
Keyboard
cheap Logitech USB
Mouse
Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (old optical) USB
Internet Speed
6Mb cable
Other Info
Pioneer BDR-205
Samsung SH-203B
Monsoon 5.1 speakers
Yeah, it seems the infamous Noctua NH-D14 is cheaper than the H80.
Now I wonder if it would be better to purchase the D14 instead.. But it's size puts me down.
And superficially, I dislike the color of the fans, but they perform beautifully. Oh if they only had other colors.

The fans aren't difficult to replace on an NH-D14. I did it because the stock fans aren't PWM. (They are PWM on the LGA2011 version.)

The NH-D14 is huge. It doesn't require low profile RAM to clear, but I'd still have to remove it to get to the DIMMs.

I don't mind the color that much since the fans are great, and the speed can still be controlled with voltage, that's enough for me to be honest.

I could probably do some modifications, and paint the frame Black just to keep the combination with the rest of the computer. I know I shouldn't really worry -THAT- much, specially since the performance really is more important than looks, but oh well!
 

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Windows 7 professional X64
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AMD A10-5800K OC@ 4.4Ghz.
Motherboard
Gigabyte F2A85X-UP4
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XFX HD7870 2GB Core Edition
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer AL2216W
Screen Resolution
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Seagate Barracuda 500gb 7200rpm
Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 7200rpm
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Cooler Master Silent Pro M 850W
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Thermaltake Commander MS-I
Cooling
Cooler Master N520
Mouse
Logitech M504
Internet Speed
10Mbps

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And I like the fact my computer would be less cluttered inside with the closed loop kit than with the air cooler.

But I hear so many discrepancies between opinions, and for some reason i feel a lot safer buying air cooling. Not for leaking issues, but the investment for water cooling seems.. fiddly. There are a lot of double opinions, and I don't know if I'm ready to lay down the money for Corsair
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 professional X64AMD A10-5800K OC@ 4.4Ghz.8GB Kingston HyperX Blu 1333mhzXFX HD7870 2GB Core Edition
Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 professional X64
CPU
AMD A10-5800K OC@ 4.4Ghz.
Motherboard
Gigabyte F2A85X-UP4
Memory
8GB Kingston HyperX Blu 1333mhz
Graphics Card(s)
XFX HD7870 2GB Core Edition
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer AL2216W
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 500gb 7200rpm
Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 7200rpm
PSU
Cooler Master Silent Pro M 850W
Case
Thermaltake Commander MS-I
Cooling
Cooler Master N520
Mouse
Logitech M504
Internet Speed
10Mbps
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