So what's the word on upgrading to Haswell???

[sygnus21]

So in the next coming months I'll be looking to upgrade my current system to some newer and better. At the moment I'm looking at this.... (parts/vendor subject to change. Performance not)

Intel Core i7-3930K
ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1866 MHZ
Gigabyte AMD Radeon HD 7970 OC 3GB

Not really interested in Crossfire just yet, but the option is there. And I’ve already got Case, PS, HD, SSD drives, Soundcard, etc… See system specs.

Plan on having the upgrade done by September as my backup system is dying; that means my current system's MB, RAM, and Processor would replace those in the backup.

At any rate should I go Haswell, or stick to the tried and true of the above?

Thanks.

 

[linnemeyerhere]

sygnus21,
I would go with the Haswell chip but not for it's great leap in power or even it's energy saving aspect but many great new features which have now migrated to the Z87 mobo's.

 

[Solarstarshines]

So in the next coming months I'll be looking to upgrade my current system to some newer and better. At the moment I'm looking at this.... (parts/vendor subject to change. Performance not)

Intel Core i7-3930K
ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1866 MHZ
Gigabyte AMD Radeon HD 7970 OC 3GB

Not really interested in Crossfire just yet, but the option is there. And I’ve already got Case, PS, HD, SSD drives, Soundcard, etc… See system specs.

Plan on having the upgrade done by September as my backup system is dying; that means my current system's MB, RAM, and Processor would replace those in the backup.

At any rate should I go Haswell, or stick to the tried and true of the above?

Thanks.

First question I would ask is your PSU Haswell compatible ?

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Yeah well there seems to be a bit of hand wringing re the heat problem believe it or not as the general production lines seem to a tad down on quality control

http://www.sevenforums.com/chillout-room/292789-haswell-info.html

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

I went with an x79 board and an i7-3930 CPU instead of waiting. Some of the new Haswell boards (especially ASUS' Z87 Deluxe/Dual) have me salivating like a famous Russian pooch but, at the end of the day, I really wouldn't have gained much overall. After seeing reports on the heat problems the new CPUs are having, I'm glad I didn't decide to wait.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Yep I was looking at this puppy ASUS Maximus VI Gene Motherboard and like you am now having second thoughts for a bit more than that price that price I can get a really whizz bang Z77
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H Motherboard

 

[Layback Bear]

I personally will wait until more information on not only the temps but how even the temps are across the cores. That will let us know how well the heat spreader on the chip is installed.

 

[sygnus21]

sygnus21,
I would go with the Haswell chip but not for it's great leap in power or even it's energy saving aspect but many great new features which have now migrated to the Z87 mobo's.

Thanks for the YouTube clip and you actually bring up a good point about going with a Z87 board, but at the end of the day, I'm wondering if want to go with 1st gen tech. Also the Asus rep indicates that the "enthusiast" boards are still going to be the X79's so....

Nonetheless, it is a good point, which is why I asked the question.

First question I would ask is your PSU Haswell compatible ?

Well based on your question, I did some quick Googling, and in a nutshell.... yes.

BTW, this all sounds like FUD to gen up PS sales, but yes, my 3 year old extremely well made Antec Signature SG-850 (850watt) power supply made the list - The big Haswell PSU compatibility list - The Tech Report - Page 1

I went with an x79 board and an i7-3930 CPU instead of waiting. Some of the new Haswell boards (especially ASUS' Z87 Deluxe/Dual) have me salivating like a famous Russian pooch but, at the end of the day, I really wouldn't have gained much overall. After seeing reports on the heat problems the new CPUs are having, I'm glad I didn't decide to wait.

Yeah, some of those Z87 boards do look darn good, and it's certainly tempting to go Haswell just for the MB features. My only issue is do I want to mess with first gen tech, or do I even need it?

When I got my X-58 Gigabyte MB, the "rage" was USB 3.0. Just this year did I really start using USB 3.0 devices. I bought the Gigabyte in 2010

Still...

 

[Solarstarshines]

First question I would ask is your PSU Haswell compatible ?

Well based on your question, I did some quick Googling, and in a nutshell.... yes.

BTW, this all sounds like FUD to gen up PS sales, but yes, my 3 year old extremely well made Antec Signature SG-850 (850watt) power supply made the list - The big Haswell PSU compatibility list - The Tech Report - Page 1


Well Honestly I assume most High quality PSU's would I just hate the fact they want to rearrange everything every freaking time they bring a better chip out

Not to be off topic but I think I will keep chugging with AMD for a while I was willing to jump on Haswell or for that matter a I73770K but from reading AMD will keep the same socket but with Improvements

I have to admit it beats switching sockets every freaking time they decide to make something better Intel that is

 

[Solarstarshines]

sygnus21,
I would go with the Haswell chip but not for it's great leap in power or even it's energy saving aspect but many great new features which have now migrated to the Z87 mobo's.

Thanks for the YouTube clip and you actually bring up a good point about going with a Z87 board, but at the end of the day, I'm wondering if want to go with 1st gen tech. Also the Asus rep indicates that the "enthusiast" boards are still going to be the X79's so....

Nonetheless, it is a good point, which is why I asked the question.

First question I would ask is your PSU Haswell compatible ?

Well based on your question, I did some quick Googling, and in a nutshell.... yes.

BTW, this all sounds like FUD to gen up PS sales, but yes, my 3 year old extremely well made Antec Signature SG-850 (850watt) power supply made the list - The big Haswell PSU compatibility list - The Tech Report - Page 1

Well Honestly I assume most High quality PSU's would I just hate the fact they want to rearrange everything every freaking time they bring a better chip out

Not to be off topic but I think I will keep chugging with AMD for a while I was willing to jump on Haswell or for that matter a I73770K but from reading AMD will keep the same socket but with Improvements

I have to admit it beats switching sockets every freaking time they decide to make something better Intel that is

 

[sygnus21]

Umm... you seemed to miss the quote brackets on my post.

 

[kbrady1979]

There is nothing wrong with SB-E at all, first generation platform or not. It may be more than what you need, but that is between you and your wallet. Just so you know....Ivy Bridge-Extreme is going to be released in September, however, that may just muddy the waters for you lol.

 

[sygnus21]

There is nothing wrong with SB-E at all, first generation platform or not. It may be more than what you need, but that is between you and your wallet. Just so you know....Ivy Bridge-Extreme is going to be released in September, however, that may just muddy the waters for you lol.

Well, for the record I sometimes I think my current system is more than I need but...

Didn't even know about the extremes so yeah that may muddy the waters a little further. However if the pricing is a bit more than the 3930, I may well pass it by.

 

[Solarstarshines]

Umm... you seemed to miss the quote brackets on my post.

Yea The other day the Forum timed out on me too :sarc:

BTW Your system is a beast

 

[sygnus21]

Umm... you seemed to miss the quote brackets on my post.

Yea The other day the Forum timed out on me too :sarc:

BTW Your system is a beast

Thanks. Which one? The one I'm planning on building, or the one in my system specs?

 

[Solarstarshines]

Umm... you seemed to miss the quote brackets on my post.

Yea The other day the Forum timed out on me too :sarc:

BTW Your system is a beast

Thanks. Which one? The one I'm planning on building, or the one in my system specs?

Both your I7950 is still good and for the new one as well and the 6900 card is still kick azz too

 

[sygnus21]

LOL - Yeah, I'm pretty happy with the system but want to upgrade while I have the means to do so. I'll be going into cash strapped mode later and need to get this done while I have the chance.

Plus I have to replace my aging Q6600 system that the family uses as I think either the processor or motherboard is going.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

There is nothing wrong with SB-E at all, first generation platform or not. It may be more than what you need, but that is between you and your wallet. Just so you know....Ivy Bridge-Extreme is going to be released in September, however, that may just muddy the waters for you lol.

To really muddy the waters... The new Ivy Bridge-Es may also use TIM instead of solder between the chip and the heat spreader which means they might have the same heating problems as the regular Ivy Bridges and the new Haswells.

The system I have now should easily meet my needs for several years to come (it had better, after the small fortune I spent on it!).

 

[sygnus21]

Though I heard a lot about heating issues I'm not going to get caught up in the method Intel is using between the heat spreaders as I'm confident that'll be sorted, whichever way Intel chooses to go. Also overclocking isn't as big a deal to me as it once was so I figure if I stay within stock range, heat shouldn't be an issue. However that doesn't mean I'll completely ignore the issue though

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Though I heard a lot about heating issues I'm not going to get caught up in the method Intel is using between the heat spreaders as I'm confident that'll be sorted, whichever way Intel chooses to go. Also overclocking isn't as big a deal to me as it once was so I figure if I stay within stock range, heat shouldn't be an issue. However that doesn't mean I'll completely ignore the issue though

Hum for me though it is not just a matter of what they use they could even use use something like that Indigo Extreme or solid silver for that matter between the spreader and the chip. Whatever is used depends on how the devices are produced on a large scale - all very well in a lab but churned out on some certain countries production lines are sometimes one and two different matters.

One only has to look at car manufacturing for evidence of that.