can unactivated RTM be activated by retail upgrade key?

win7noob

New member
Local time
3:52 PM
Messages
33
say one were to install the windows 7 RTM unactivated. could a "upgrade" retail key activate it? or would it require a "full" retail key?

thanks
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
my guess is No. Unless there is an upgrade hack like there was in Vista.

but it's only a guess...and that's pretty much all anyone can do at this point.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

XP, Seven, 2008R2AMD, Intel, VIACorsair, Kingston, etc.ATI, NVIDIA
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Too many to list.
OS
XP, Seven, 2008R2
CPU
AMD, Intel, VIA
Motherboard
Various
Memory
Corsair, Kingston, etc.
Graphics Card(s)
ATI, NVIDIA
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung
Hard Drives
Maxtor, Western Digital
Keyboard
qwerty
Internet Speed
22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server
Other Info
All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality.
say one were to install the windows 7 RTM unactivated. could a "upgrade" retail key activate it? or would it require a "full" retail key?

thanks

I think you just need to change to the retail product ID then input the retail key via slmgr
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 RTMQ6600 @ 3.4Ghz8GB DDR2-800GTX285 1GB
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate X64 RTM
CPU
Q6600 @ 3.4Ghz
Motherboard
Abit IP35-E
Memory
8GB DDR2-800
Graphics Card(s)
GTX285 1GB
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Extreme Music
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung T220
Hard Drives
Samsung F1 Spinpoint 1TB
PSU
Silverstone Zues 750ZF
Case
Lian Li PC-P80
Cooling
Thermalright Ultra 120-Extreme
Gray Area Alert Be careful

Just a heads up

Ken
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 8 Release candidate 8400[email protected]4 gigsNvidia 9600M
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx
OS
Win 8 Release candidate 8400
CPU
[email protected]
Memory
4 gigs
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 9600M
Sound Card
HD built-in
Monitor(s) Displays
17" Wxga
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Cooling
none
Internet Speed
45Mb down 5Mb up
hmmmm i think i'll just suggest to Person X that they wait 2 more months for the DVD
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
say one were to install the windows 7 RTM unactivated. could a "upgrade" retail key activate it? or would it require a "full" retail key?

thanks
YES, the best was to upgrade is insert the DVD while booted to Win7.
when you see the UPGRADE- click yes, when ask insert the UPGRADE KEY.
that is the way it works.
 
Don't think this will work as you have to have a previous OS installed and ACTIVATED in order to install the upgrade. You can install the RC1 release with it's key, activate it and then upgrade it.

Don't hack the OS to get it activated. If you aren't willing to pay for Windows there are plenty of free alternatives out there.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x64Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timingsEVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built in July 2009
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
Memory
8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
Sound Card
Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
Monitor(s) Displays
23" Acer x233H
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
PSU
Corsair 620HX modular
Case
Antec P182
Cooling
stock
Keyboard
ABS M1 Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
15/2 cable modem
Other Info
Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
Don't think this will work as you have to have a previous OS installed and ACTIVATED in order to install the upgrade. You can install the RC1 release with it's key, activate it and then upgrade it.

Don't hack the OS to get it activated. If you aren't willing to pay for Windows there are plenty of free alternatives out there.

Sorry, you do not need a previous activated OS to use the UPGRADE KEY to install and activate.

MS details how to clean install with the upgrade disk (do not use your key) then upgrade with the UPGRADE KEY.
The information is on the Technet site, MSDN and MS upgrade site.
 
Probably full only. Think about it. How will the OS know that you ever had Vista? Or XP? Maybe it'll just ask for the key from whatever you had before, but that's unlikely.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leo...T9900 Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz8GB DDR3 RAM 1067MHzQuadro FX 3700M w/1GB GDDR3 dedicated VRAM
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo Thinkpad W700 2757-CTO
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard x64
CPU
T9900 Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz
Motherboard
Intel Cantiga PM45
Memory
8GB DDR3 RAM 1067MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Quadro FX 3700M w/1GB GDDR3 dedicated VRAM
Sound Card
Conxent HD Sound
Monitor(s) Displays
17" 400 nit WUXGA w/ X-Rite PANTONE Color Calibrator
Screen Resolution
WUXGA (1920x1200)
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB SSD 1.8" MLC
Intel X-18M 1.8" 80GB SSD
Seagate Momentus 160GB 7200.3
Hitachi Travelstar 500GB 7200rpm
Hitachi Travelstar 200GB 7200 w/FDE
Another 1.7TB of an ssortment of hard drives
Case
Notebook w/ RollCage & Titanium Top
Cooling
Two really effective Internal fans
Keyboard
Thinkpad legendary Alps w/ separate numeric keypad
Mouse
UltraNav (TrackPoint + Trackpad)
Internet Speed
20Mbps down/2Mbps up; Cisco WRT610Nv2 Dual-Band N WiFi
Other Info
Blu-ray/DVDRW/CDRW Enhanced Serial Ultrabay combo drive
The key you have is special for ea version.
basic, starter, homepremium, Pro, Enterprise, or Ultimate.

and if you try to use the UPGRADE key when doing a CLEAN INSTALL it will not work.

All the upgrade ask for is a Previous install OS of the same Version.

There is a popup that directs you to select the same version as the KEY for your version.
 
Sorry, you do not need a previous activated OS to use the UPGRADE KEY to install and activate.

MS details how to clean install with the upgrade disk (do not use your key) then upgrade with the UPGRADE KEY.
The information is on the Technet site, MSDN and MS upgrade site.

Well, that would be news to me. Could you please share some of these links with me?? I'm searching right now via Google...but maybe you will come up with them faster.

I'm finding sites like this which say otherwise:
http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2009/07/a_major_windows_7_upgrade_question_gets_an_an.html

http://www.ditii.com/2009/07/12/win...-windows-7-rc-xp-vista-need-valid-activation/

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/windows_7_upgrade_edition_will_require_activated_copy_verification_each_time_it%E2%80%99s_installed

http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/14/microsoft-confirms-windows-7-rc-upgrade-rules/

I've found this site discussing it both ways
http://www.pcworld.com/article/1685...wont_require_activated_os_before_upgrade.html

This very recent Technet blog post explains that it will require an activated OS
http://social.technet.microsoft.com...l/thread/8dbbf5f1-5c2c-48d7-a3ae-db1bb2f7b37f

So, I feel that I am seeing far more business sites and reporting sites saying it will require a previously activated OS...then I see posts and commentary from savvy computer users who feel the Vista trick will work. I feel some are still in disbelief that this would be a requirement.
 
Last edited:

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x64Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timingsEVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built in July 2009
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
Memory
8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
Sound Card
Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
Monitor(s) Displays
23" Acer x233H
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
PSU
Corsair 620HX modular
Case
Antec P182
Cooling
stock
Keyboard
ABS M1 Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
15/2 cable modem
Other Info
Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
Easy way is consult the MS site..
Rumors have been abound since Vista on how to upgrade. I have upgraded every version fo Win7 (Beta Test).

I could supply links. Yes, but it best info is FROM MS, not some 3rd rate magazine, that has no idea what Windows 7 really is... Most of them still use Win XP.

UPGRADE or Clean install from the UPGRADE Disk have been available since way back.

The provided Manual will give clear instructions, the same can be found on the Official MS site.

To prepare may customers for the official (release of Win7) while using XP.
1. take any Vista Disk, and upgrade the Same version from XP to Vista,
NO I HAVE NOT USED A KEY. YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO ACTIVATE. AND IT IS FULL.
2. Take you download version of Win 7 RC-7100 (official release from MS), it is FREE on the MS Site. obtain a Official KEY. then insert the DVD while logged in to Vista, click upgrade, when ask insert the Official KEY.
then you have enough time to wait until your customer - etx whom ever, gets there Official RTM Disk, either (UPGRADE or RETAIL or OEM) and then insert the DVD while booted and UPGRADE and insert the KEY when ask.
(NOW THIS REQUIRES THAT CHECK THE OFFICIAL MICROSOFT SITE) to find information on exactly which versions can be legally upgraded.
Some version require only a CLEAN install while other version allow UPGRADE.

I recommend you visit and browse Microsoft.com - MDSN - Technet for appropiate Offical information.
REASON: every body has their oipinion. and unless you read it from the Official Site, you will not fully understand.
Official Beta Tester for Microsoft since Pre-Windows 95.
 
Easy way is consult the MS site..
I have and I haven't found anything saying you can upgrade from a previous OS which is non-activated.

I could supply links. Yes, but it best info is FROM MS,
So please, post these links then to this information for me.


The provided Manual will give clear instructions, the same can be found on the Official MS site.
Please provide me with a link where I can clearly see this...as I don't seem to be finding it on my own.


I recommend you visit and browse Microsoft.com - MDSN - Technet for appropiate Offical information.
Did you not notice that even one of my posts before was from the technet forum? I am looking at these sites and not finding this information that you speak of.

If the info is so freely available, it should take you no time whatsoever to locate it for me.

Thanks in advance.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x64Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timingsEVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built in July 2009
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
Memory
8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
Sound Card
Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
Monitor(s) Displays
23" Acer x233H
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
PSU
Corsair 620HX modular
Case
Antec P182
Cooling
stock
Keyboard
ABS M1 Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
15/2 cable modem
Other Info
Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
Back
Top