Haswell may not be a big deal as first thought

Socket 2011, sometime next month.
 

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Yeah!
Have you read anything about chipsets? As in X79 upgradable, or will it require a whole new MB?
 

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The thing I'm holding my breath about is that when I built my current rig I was reading that Ivy Bridge-E was going to come out on Socket 2011. Figured it was a good upgrade path, since I wasn't going to wait. But that was only speculation at the time.
Anyone heard what platform it will actually be on?


Could of sworn I just saw leaked info on that and it's supposed to be 2011 platform
 

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I'm sure it will work in the original Socket 2011 motherboards, but there will also be a new line of them with what few native Ivy Bridge features there are to implement.
 

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It has always been slated for socket 2011. Just like you could run an Ivy Bridge CPU in a Sandy Bridge socket 1155 motherboard, you will be able to run an IB-E CPU in a SB-E socket 2011 mobo.
 

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Yes, like native USB3. That has been my concern.
 

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So I was deep into reading Big Tabs Post on the Haswell and coming down to a post that someone feels they figured out which chips will run better then others

Personally I agree with Kelly Luck of the draw lot numbers is a BS way to try and get a decent chip to me all chips have potential just some built better then others
 

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It was easier to get a good chip with Sandy Bridge than Ivy Bridge, and easier to get a good chip with Ivy Bridge than Haswell. Just from getting the manufacturing process down over time, the new batches of IB are suppose to be really good OC's.
 

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It was easier to get a good chip with Sandy Bridge than Ivy Bridge, and easier to get a good chip with Ivy Bridge than Haswell. Just from getting the manufacturing process down over time, the new batches of IB are suppose to be really good OC's.


That's what i'm talking about brother it's fixed and ready to rock all I need is to get my crap together get the money and im ready to jump into some Intel :geek:

Sad thing is could have done this months ago but really was trying to give AMD a chance to get better I don't see that in the future at all anymore let down for sure but they still run great
 

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It was easier to get a good chip with Sandy Bridge than Ivy Bridge, and easier to get a good chip with Ivy Bridge than Haswell. Just from getting the manufacturing process down over time, the new batches of IB are suppose to be really good OC's.


That's what i'm talking about brother it's fixed and ready to rock all I need is to get my crap together get the money and im ready to jump into some Intel :geek:

Sad thing is could have done this months ago but really was trying to give AMD a chance to get better I don't see that in the future at all anymore let down for sure but they still run great

"Say it's not true" Tommy what is this world coming to?
 

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The only good overclocks I've been reading about for Haswells are on CPUs that have been delidded.
 

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It was easier to get a good chip with Sandy Bridge than Ivy Bridge, and easier to get a good chip with Ivy Bridge than Haswell. Just from getting the manufacturing process down over time, the new batches of IB are suppose to be really good OC's.


That's what i'm talking about brother it's fixed and ready to rock all I need is to get my crap together get the money and im ready to jump into some Intel :geek:

Sad thing is could have done this months ago but really was trying to give AMD a chance to get better I don't see that in the future at all anymore let down for sure but they still run great

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I think Mr Finger III is moving to Intel :p
 

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It was easier to get a good chip with Sandy Bridge than Ivy Bridge, and easier to get a good chip with Ivy Bridge than Haswell. Just from getting the manufacturing process down over time, the new batches of IB are suppose to be really good OC's.


That's what i'm talking about brother it's fixed and ready to rock all I need is to get my crap together get the money and im ready to jump into some Intel :geek:

Sad thing is could have done this months ago but really was trying to give AMD a chance to get better I don't see that in the future at all anymore let down for sure but they still run great

"Say it's not true" Tommy what is this world coming to?

Allan you jumped ship before me :p I'm still loyal just I see the performance really is with Intel and no matter how high my clocks go im still getting beat out by less clocked pc's pretty disturbing i'm running 4.8 ghz to still get beat out by a 4.5 ghz machine that's pretty ridiculous to me :shock:
 

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The only good overclocks I've been reading about for Haswells are on CPUs that have been delidded.

Haswell chips that can OC decently without delidding is certainly the exception, not the rule. We may be eating crow 6 months from now if they can fix these problems during manufacturing, but for now it looks like you have to have a rabbits foot lodged firmly in place to get a decent chip....not too enticing. I've read several people ordered a few chips and binned them on their own...the numbers were disappointing to say the least.
 

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And the thought of messing up a de-lid operation is not one I cherish !
 

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Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro 8630 all-n-one
Hot-swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Netgear Nighthawk router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
Lenovo L420 i5 lappy with m sata
Drobo 5N advanced NAS
I like trying things, but a de-lid is one I would never do.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 10 Pro X64Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU OC@ 4.5GHZ Turbo8.00 GB DDR3 1600MhzMSI Gaming X GTX 1070
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dude Build
OS
Windows 10 Pro X64
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU OC@ 4.5GHZ Turbo
Motherboard
MSI Z77A-G45 Gaming
Memory
8.00 GB DDR3 1600Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Gaming X GTX 1070
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S23O9W, HP L1710
Screen Resolution
DELL-1920 x 1080 HP-1280 x1024
Hard Drives
Crucial m4 256 SSD, WD 7200RPM 500GB WD 1TB
PSU
Seasonic X650 GOLD
Case
Zalman Z12
Cooling
Antec Kuhler 920
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
MSI DS100 Interceptor
Internet Speed
50 down and 5 up
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
Chrome, IE 11
Other Info
Logitech X-620 Speakers
That is what sucks about all this doesn't Intel look at forums or some of there people

I'm sure someone has brought up why are the consumers de-lidding a product that has cost them 349.99 plus tax and in other countries higher

I mean really would it be that hard to figure out why the heat is so nasty or even go back to the conventional method they used before this boggles the mind

If I am paying top dollar for there performance they should take pride and properly take care of their fan base
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1Intel I7-6700K @ 4.6 Ghz 1.344 volts everyday OC32GB G-Skill TridentZ 3200mhz 16-18-18-38 DDR4Sli Gigabyte Windforce GTX 980 G1
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
CoreI7-6700K MrFingerIII Special Builds
OS
Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
CPU
Intel I7-6700K @ 4.6 Ghz 1.344 volts everyday OC
Motherboard
Asrock Fatality K6 Z170 Socket 1151
Memory
32GB G-Skill TridentZ 3200mhz 16-18-18-38 DDR4
Graphics Card(s)
Sli Gigabyte Windforce GTX 980 G1
Sound Card
AC97 Creative Rage Tactic 3D Headphones Bluetooth
Monitor(s) Displays
27" Asus ROG Swift PG278Q G-Sync 48" Vizio Smart HD TV
Screen Resolution
2560x1440p 27"- 48" Currently Gaming at 2560x1440p Res 2K
Hard Drives
250GB Samsung Evo840SSD Seagate baracuda 500 GB WD Mybook 500Gb 1TB Seagate Barracuda
PSU
HX1050w Corsair Silver 80plus certified crosfire/sli
Case
Enthod Pro Full Tower
Cooling
Corsair H110i GT 280 mm High Performance WaterBlock
Keyboard
Logitech wireless keyboard
Mouse
Logitech wireless mouse
Internet Speed
Cox Cable 100+ mb
Antivirus
WebRoot Spysweeper with Antivirus
Browser
IE-10, Chrome, Opera
Other Info
My Other Rig is a AMD FX8320E @4.6Ghz 16GB Ballistic Sport Ram
Mobo Asrock Fatality 990FX 120GB OCZ SSD 1TB Seagate Barracuda Corsair H75 Cooling PSU Corsair CX750
GPU GTX Gigabyte 970G1
They simply don't care to be honest. No real competition from AMD, and being able to save 5 cents per chip is enough for them to justify cutting corners. At the end of the day, it's worth it because Intel CPU's are just that good and we often overlook their shortcomings.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1Intel Core i5-3570K @ 4.5GHzCorsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4) @1866MHz CL 9-9-...EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
CPU
Intel Core i5-3570K @ 4.5GHz
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z77
Memory
Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4) @1866MHz CL 9-9-9-24 1T
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW
Sound Card
Onboard Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2309W
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 830 128GB SSD - OS
(4) Seagate 5TB HDD
(1) Seagate 2TB HDD
PSU
Seasonic X750 80+ Gold Full Modular
Case
Antec Eleven Hundred Super Mid Tower
Cooling
Intel Liquid Cooler
Keyboard
Max Nighthawk X8 Mechanical keyboard
Mouse
Mionix Naos 7000
Internet Speed
50 Mbps Down / 10 Mbps Up
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
Browser
Chrome/Firefox
Other Info
Klipsch ProMedia 2.1's
Asus RT-N66R Wireless Router
Fu£& it I'm getting haswell screw you amd chuckle chuckle
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 64 (bit)I7 4790K8GBEVGA 770 SC ACX
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 64 (bit)
CPU
I7 4790K
Motherboard
Asus Maximus VII Hero
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 770 SC ACX
Monitor(s) Displays
iiyama GB2488HSU
Screen Resolution
1920*1080
Hard Drives
1TB WESTERN DIGITAL BLACK
PSU
850 EVGA Supernova G2
Case
Carbide Series® Air 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case
Cooling
The Black Ice® GT Stealth 240, Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 280
Keyboard
STEELSERIES APEX [RAW]
Mouse
Roccat XTD
Internet Speed
30Meg
Antivirus
Bitdefender
Browser
Google Chrome
i have seen a few benchmarks even tho haswell cant over clock high it still beats ivy
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 64 (bit)I7 4790K8GBEVGA 770 SC ACX
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 64 (bit)
CPU
I7 4790K
Motherboard
Asus Maximus VII Hero
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 770 SC ACX
Monitor(s) Displays
iiyama GB2488HSU
Screen Resolution
1920*1080
Hard Drives
1TB WESTERN DIGITAL BLACK
PSU
850 EVGA Supernova G2
Case
Carbide Series® Air 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case
Cooling
The Black Ice® GT Stealth 240, Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 280
Keyboard
STEELSERIES APEX [RAW]
Mouse
Roccat XTD
Internet Speed
30Meg
Antivirus
Bitdefender
Browser
Google Chrome
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