More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

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I don't understand how you can lose applications or files. I type exactly what I'm looking for, and I get it.
That's the same thing that pisses me off in Ubuntu and its dash screen.
Hell, if I need to know and remeber the name of all the programs I have installed I might as well pull them up by command line and bypass all this GUI bs. DOS (and linux terminal) all the way, you hipster kiddies!

Having my programs listed somewhere, with also icons, (because in case you missed it, the bulk of the human population remembers more easily images than words) is useful to me and many others.

I know that 8 can have the folders in the task bar and all that, and that there is an ugly app selector screen, but it's missing the point on so many levels.

It has to run out of the box, or it goes out of the window.

But in reality, I don't see why people are so Anti-Windows 8. I've said it once, and I'll say it again, IF you do not like change, DON'T UPGRADE.
Which is what is happening. W8 stuff is selling less than Vista stuff at its glory days. This ought to tell something. I mean pre-SP1 Vista sucked hard.

You are a minority. Is that a problem?
 

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I just don't see what the fuss is all about

No Aero! I love me some Aero!
LOL!! I always disable that stuff anyway it eats into the performance of the machine - I do that from Brink's tutorial on Optimisation:) http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/11728-optimize-windows-7-a.html

I love the look of Aero (I really dislike 8's pastelly colours) and with the new system I have everything is very snappy due to the SSD. 7 was a bit slow on my old rig but that was nearly six years old when I installed it, now it's more than fast enough for me. If Windows 8 would be faster on my system I wouldn't appreciate it and it wouldn't give me my Aero!

I'm just one of those who doesn't think 8 is for me, I'm very happy with 7 and will stick with it for a long while yet. I've being toying with running 8 in a VM for a closer look but it really is just curiosity and no real desire to move to it as my primary OS.
 

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No probs mate I just adjust the colours with the colour calibration> I do have a SanDisk Extreme SSD in this machine and my power up to desktop takes about 8 secs including login if I am ready for it LOL!! Shut down is in the blink of an eye - seriously almost as soon as I hit the shut down button.
Between apps is just as quick and I use 7 forum through it all the time as you might have guessed.:)
 

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It seems Windows 7 is here to stay, wherever Microsoft want Windows 7 to stay or not, Windows 8's UI has become too touchscreen orientated, and I've even struggled to find files and programs Windows 8 due to the metro Start Menu.


I don't understand how you can lose applications or files. I type exactly what I'm looking for, and I get it. I'm a bit of a naming freak, and have everything listed as what they really are. I've got nearly 20million files on my Network Drives, and my current computer has 4TB (80% Full), and I have no issues with finding programs. Compatibility is another issue, for another thread.


But in reality, I don't see why people are so Anti-Windows 8. I've said it once, and I'll say it again, IF you do not like change, DON'T UPGRADE. I'm not trying to rag on you, or be-little you, I'm just saying I don't understand it. Windows 8 was like a godsend to me, I'm tired of the same old look of Windows. Windows 98 - 7 have the same style. Windows 8 was new, and different, I enjoy the challenge it gives. I guess not everyone likes puzzles as much as I do :(

Anti 8 on tablet NO! Anti 8 on desktop? Take a look at just what 8 is a run off of RT on Surface Tablets that allows you to install on a tablet lacking 8 or the RT gui(both RT and 8 see same). Strip out the features and support people are accustomed on the desktop platform and offer no options to the user and you wonder why people want to stay with 7.

You can't compare the look between all versions leading up to 7 going back to Legacy. The two things that have remained until 8 came along however are IE and WMP. WMP was an option for 95 back then. At least back then if you looked on a 98 disk what did you find? "OPTIONAL" Windows components! Do you see any setup options for 8? NADA!

As anyone can readily see 8 draws a lot of fire from the obvious discontentment by many. That won't be going away anytime soon.
 

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It seems to always come up that some people think other people don't like Windows 8 because they don't like change.

I like change for the better, but I don't like Windows 8, because in my opinion it is a change for the worse.

Savvy?

Bottom line is: use whatever you like. I won't belittle people that use and like Windows 8 (good for you guys), and I should hope for the same treatment.

I have a very specific kind of setup on my desktop (which includes how I have my Start menu setup) that works well for me. The additional Start screen related stuff would only serve to get in the way of that. Fortunately, there's no real significant reason for me to need to update to Windows 8. I also don't want to support this kind of an OS interface direction Microsoft is going in.

And as I've mentioned before, I use Windows 7 just fine on my Nexus 7 tablet too. Piece of cake. :)
 

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Many of us were so horrified by Vista we leapt for Win7 to see if they'd learned. They had. As those of us who grew up with it here found it is by far the best OS ever, maybe destined to stay that way.

When and if it has a worthy successor we will embrace it and provide the level of support which has earned these forums the undisputed top tech forums on the web probably in history. Win7 is that good. Give us something that is as good or better.
 
I just don't see what the fuss is all about I use the machine just as I did before only now it is ten times faster!
What kind of crazy computer are you using that runs things 10x faster with Windows 8?! :p

At least lets have an honest discussion here...

If it ran what I run using Windows 7 10x faster I would update with blatant disregard for my GUI preferences, even if it was ugly and annoying as sin. LOL
 
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But in reality, I don't see why people are so Anti-Windows 8. I've said it once, and I'll say it again, IF you do not like change, DON'T UPGRADE.

Dread we've said it before and we'll say it again, we do not dislike change, we dislike change for the worse.

Taking a perfectly good desktop OS and perverting it to look and work like a tablet/phone OS is a change for the worse, which is not an upgrade, it's a downgrade.
The fact that most businesses have rejected W8 in favor of W7 should tell you something.

The UI is not only ugly, but was clearly designed and optimized for touchscreen use, which is anti desktop by nature. How many people want to smear up their 22-26 inch monitor screens with greasy grimy fingerprints, while tiring their shoulders by wiping and swiping with their arms up in the air?

If you're into tablets and phones, W8 is probably a change for the better.
If you're into desktops, W8 is a change for the worse.
 
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Change != Improvement

But in reality, I don't see why people are so Anti-Windows 8. I've said it once, and I'll say it again, IF you do not like change, DON'T UPGRADE. I'm not trying to rag on you, or be-little you, I'm just saying I don't understand it. Windows 8 was like a godsend to me, I'm tired of the same old look of Windows. Windows 98 - 7 have the same style. Windows 8 was new, and different, I enjoy the challenge it gives. I guess not everyone likes puzzles as much as I do :(

A lot of people don't consider a "fresh coat of paint" and a random shuffling of features, files and tools to be an improvement.

Metro's a change, but it's NOT an improvement.

That's the same thing that pisses me off in Ubuntu and its dash screen.
Hell, if I need to know and remeber the name of all the programs I have installed I might as well pull them up by command line and bypass all this GUI bs. DOS (and linux terminal) all the way, you hipster kiddies!

Agreed 100%.
Unity is awful (at least you don't have to leave the desktop if the item you want is on the bar though).

Unity is why I swapped from Ubuntu 10 to Linux Mint 14 MATE.
 

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Here's a question, please be truthful in your answer: "Has anyone who has posted on this thread actually read all 1671 replies on this posting?"
 

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10 Mbit (realistically 500 Kbit - 1.2 Mbit)
Other Info
Speakers - Bose Desktop (Excellent Sound)
1 external CD|DVD\Blue-ray Recorders/Players (Sony)
Here's a question, please be truthful in your answer: "Has anyone who has posted on this thread actually read all 1671 replies on this posting?"

:o Yep. Honestly.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x6...i7-4790k @ 4GHz (4.4GHz Boost)16GB DDR3 Kingston HyperX Fury @ 1600MHz CL 9...EVGA GTX 980 Classified
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 VM | Linux Mint VM
CPU
i7-4790k @ 4GHz (4.4GHz Boost)
Motherboard
ASUS Sabertooth Z87 (BIOS Rev 2004)
Memory
16GB DDR3 Kingston HyperX Fury @ 1600MHz CL 9-9-9-27
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980 Classified
Sound Card
Realtek Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S27D390
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
240GB Intel 520 Series SSD |
Samsung 850 EVO 120GB SSD |
2TB WD Caviar Black |
2TB WD Caviar Black |
2TB WD Caviar Green
PSU
Corsair HX850-80 Gold Modular
Case
Cooler Master Silencio 650
Cooling
Corsair H80i w/2 x Corsair SP120 | 2 x 120mm Noctua NF-S12B
Keyboard
Microsoft Sidewinder X4
Mouse
Gigabyte M6900 optical
Internet Speed
152mb
Antivirus
F-Secure
Browser
Firefox 38.0
Other Info
Backup Rig: Win 7 Pro 64-bit | AMD A10-5800k | ASUS F2A85-V Pro | 8GB Samsung DDR3 @1600MHz | 120GB Toshiba SDD | 2TB Seagate HDD | Cooler Master Silencio 550
Here's a question, please be truthful in your answer: "Has anyone who has posted on this thread actually read all 1671 replies on this posting?"

I have. As a plus I've learned a lot about Linux.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 10 (64 bit)AMD FX832016 GBAMD 7870
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 10 (64 bit)
CPU
AMD FX8320
Motherboard
Asus M5A99X EVO
Memory
16 GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 7870
I just don't see what the fuss is all about I use the machine just as I did before only now it is ten times faster!
What kind of crazy computer are you using that runs things 10x faster with Windows 8?! :p

At least lets have an honest discussion here...

If it ran what I run using Windows 7 10x faster I would update with blatant disregard for my GUI preferences, even if it was ugly and annoying as sin. LOL
The machine is a three nearly four year old Toshiba L550 Satellite Pro with an i5 430 @2.27GHz 8GB 1333 and a SanDisk Extreme SSD.
I have no explanation as to why it runs as fast as it just does and also why the Sandy Bridge runs faster but not as fast as this machine.
I am not saying 8 is better than 7 in fact I do most of my posting in 7 just that the machine runs faster and I can access both forums as normal:p
Now I think I mentioned somewhere if not in this thread there are a few things that are niggling like the msconfig for the Optimisation it no longer has that nice Startup tab settings it uses a set up called in through the Task manager which I find tedious and frankly convoluted and the back up in control panel is now File History - mind you I think it updates the backup on the USB stick from time to time - auto but I stand to be corrected.
But truly all in all I really don't know what the problem is all I can say if you don't like it then don't sit there and grizzle about it no one is forcing anyone to use it eh? - or are they??:geek:

Now to give you exact figures the 7 on the same set up ran power to desktop in 40-42 secs (including login) and shut down around 32 secs if I remember right. The 8 and don't forget it has all my 7 settings carried across not just the 8 gets to desktop in 8-9 secs including login - one has to sit there ready to quickly type course and the shut down is just about instantaneous and that is sometimes with the email pulled up and perhaps several tabs still open.
Ten times faster perhaps I was using a bit of poetic licence but I think you can see from the figures it seems that way:)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap A...Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i...Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop...Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
OS
Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
Lee, I can't honestly say I've read every one, I may have missed a few, but I have read 95% of them at least. I've tried every CP, RC and have Windows 8 Pro installed on a laptop. There is no one that can objectively use it and deny it was designed for a Phone and Tablet then ported to a desktop. That never has not and never will work. The devices are used for different purposes and need different Operating Systems. No matter what Steve Ballmer thinks, this is not a one size fits all world. Windows 8 is not a productivity system. Yes, I can do most of the same things with 8 I can do with 7, it just takes longer and is more difficult. I further resent Microsoft trying to tie everything you do to the Windows Live system and Skydrive. And just for another thought, why would they have some laptop manufacturers make it so that you can't go back to 7 or any other OS? Might it be that they knew it was not going to be well received and were trying to force everyone they could to continue using it? I'm not too sure about others, but I will not be forced to use any OS, or Skydrive either, and I resent the heck out of them for trying it. Windows 8 is not an improvement over 7. It is a tablet OS ported to the desktop environment, and will never work well as such. Apple would be proud.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 ProRyzen 9 5900X32GB G Skill DDR4-3600EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ALWAYS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus X570 Crosshair Viii Hero
    Memory
    32GB G Skill DDR4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    On Board/Sennheiser PC37X Headset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X Asus 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2 X 1 TB NVME drives
    PSU
    EVGA 850
    Case
    Phanteks Eclipse P400A
    Cooling
    EVGA 280 AIO
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
    Mouse
    Logitech G502
    Internet Speed
    24/1
    Antivirus
    ESET/MBAM Pro/SAS Pro
    Browser
    Chrome/ Firefox/ Edge
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 ProIntel Ultra 9 288V32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell 16 Plus
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Intel Ultra 9 288V
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" Mini-LED HDR600 Touch 90 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1600
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME
Lee, I can't honestly say I've read every one, I may have missed a few, but I have read 95% of them at least. I've tried every CP, RC and have Windows 8 Pro installed on a laptop. There is no one that can objectively use it and deny it was designed for a Phone and Tablet then ported to a desktop. That never has not and never will work. The devices are used for different purposes and need different Operating Systems. No matter what Steve Ballmer thinks, this is not a one size fits all world. Windows 8 is not a productivity system. Yes, I can do most of the same things with 8 I can do with 7, it just takes longer and is more difficult. I further resent Microsoft trying to tie everything you do to the Windows Live system and Skydrive. And just for another thought, why would they have some laptop manufacturers make it so that you can't go back to 7 or any other OS? Might it be that they knew it was not going to be well received and were trying to force everyone they could to continue using it? I'm not too sure about others, but I will not be forced to use any OS, or Skydrive either, and I resent the heck out of them for trying it. Windows 8 is not an improvement over 7. It is a tablet OS ported to the desktop environment, and will never work well as such. Apple would be proud.

Essenbe I totally agree, especially with the highlighted statement. For a desktop, W8 is clearly an inferior product and like you, I will not be force fed M$'s "one size fits all" compromised OS.
And like you, I also resent M$'s "Our way or the highway" attitude about W8.

If it comes down to "their way or the highway," I'll take the "highway".
Meantime I'll stay with W7 till M$ comes to their senses.
 
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My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Pro x64Intel I7 6700 3.40 GHz8GB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP ProDesk 400 G3
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64
CPU
Intel I7 6700 3.40 GHz
Memory
8GB
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 21.5" LED
Hard Drives
1 TB
Keyboard
Ducky mechanical with PBT double shot keycaps.
Here's a question, please be truthful in your answer: "Has anyone who has posted on this thread actually read all 1671 replies on this posting?"

Yes. Of course, I started reading the thread from its day one; I didn't read it all in one sitting (yikes!).
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bitIntel i7-3930KKingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modul...MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
... this is not a one size fits all world...

Anyone who thinks it is should have to live life as a plus size woman trying to find clothes that fit!
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bitIntel i7-3930KKingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modul...MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
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