Why is does this hard drive have slow access times?

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I've got a Seagate 160gb (ST9160301AS) hard drive that has a good SMART report - no bad sectors, no crc errors, etc. And it has a respectable 50MB/s throughput, over a nice smooth curve. But it's access times are really bad, at 26+ ms. I've chkdsk /r'd it, defragged and optimized it, but its performance remains abysmal. Is there anything I can do for it?
 

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Goto gparted.org, download/create a bootable version.
In gparted create a new partition tabel, create a new ntfs partition and try your acces time's again.
 

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What would partitions and file systems have to do with hardware response times?
 

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A ST9160301AS is a 5400 rpm drive and they are just slow.

From post #1
I've got a Seagate 160gb (ST9160301AS) hard drive
 

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I've been through dozens of these drives and never had one with access times of 26ms.

I've got the drive tethered to my desktop and after backing up with play with the mbr and partitions.

I also had turned off APM via HDDScan and it did nothing. I'm also not sure whether HDDScan's control of that setting is permanent or not.
 

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Ok, I deleted all partitions and created a new NTFS partition. Then I ran the test again, with no change. The Before pic is first. This is over a USB 3.0 connection, which I think doesn't restrict anything. IAC, I've seen access times of 10ms less over the same connection on other drives.
 

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This drive's average access times approach that of what they call full stroke reads - the worst case scenario, when the target is on the other end of the drive. Maybe the arm of the drive is experiencing friction or other problems. Another interesting thing is how similar those two profiles are.
 

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Looks like it might be time for a defrag. Not sure if it is a mechanical problem.
 

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Post #1 states the drive has been defragged.
 

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EVGA GTX 1070 OC
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Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
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INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
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EVGA Platium 1200W
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XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
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LG BluRay Burner/
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Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
Was your post edited? I didn't see that. Ok.
 

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HP DV5 1132 Entertainment Notebook
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo T5800 @ 2.00GHz
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Quanta 3602
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4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 398MHz (6-6-6-18)
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family (Merom)
Sound Card
IDT High Def
Monitor(s) Displays
Built-in OEM Display, 26" Toshiba External Flatscreen
Screen Resolution
1280x768
Hard Drives
Fujitsu 220GB (SATA-II 3.0Gb/s OEM), Crucial SSD M4 128GB (SATA-III 6.0Gb/s)
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OEM Laptop PSU
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OEM
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OEM
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Built-in OEM
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USB Optical Mouse
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Turtle
Antivirus
Microsoft Secirty Essentials
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Firefox
Other Info
Broadcom 802.11g Network Adapter
For the record, I upped the RAM to 2GB (this was an Intel Atom, 1GB netbook). I created a 500mb RAM disk to handle %TEMP% and browser cache chores. I also set the machine to defrag and optimize on a continual basis during idle time. The result is pretty good. With jobs that access many files there are delays. But most of the time the response is very decent, even quite good.
 

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dell precision t3400 tower
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Linux Lite 3.2 x64; Windows 7, 8.1
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6GB ddr2
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120gb SSD, 1TB HD, 2TB HD; sata II
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