How hot should the MOBO DRM's Be?

[sisrace]

Hi. i checked some temps today on my build and i was like.. Hmm.. My gpu is good, My cpu is good. Even when stressing the system with the case fans at 5V wich moves like bearly nothing but i have the exaust on the top so it acts as an very effective passive exaust too.. And the cpu cooler is right in front too...
But i poked fast on the motherboard heatsinks.. The one closest to the IO panel was fairly hot but i could have my finger there a while..
The one under the cpu was hot enough for me to burn my finger a little but nothing too bad just at the fingertipp. So nothing mayor on me but i got conserned.. Becouse i didnt have anything loaded up... I did stress the GPU to ~95% and the Cpu at ~20% for like ten minutes and then i closed it and when i tested the DRM temps the computer had just been doing casual stuff like browsing the web and opening maps etc.. But they were still SOO hot..

I looked around and my speedfan says;
Temp 1: 38c
Temp 2: 39c
Temp 3: 25c
HD1: 38c
GPU: 37c
The cpu is Temp 2 the two other " Temps " i have no idea about what they are..
hmm.. I think they are called DRM's or am i completely wrong?
Atleast the Heatsinks on the motherboard is very hot :sarc:

 

[NoN]

Hi. i checked some temps today on my build and i was like.. Hmm.. My gpu is good, My cpu is good. Even when stressing the system with the case fans at 5V wich moves like bearly nothing but i have the exaust on the top so it acts as an very effective passive exaust too.. And the cpu cooler is right in front too...
But i poked fast on the motherboard heatsinks.. The one closest to the IO panel was fairly hot but i could have my finger there a while..
The one under the cpu was hot enough for me to burn my finger a little but nothing too bad just at the fingertipp. So nothing mayor on me but i got conserned.. Becouse i didnt have anything loaded up... I did stress the GPU to ~95% and the Cpu at ~20% for like ten minutes and then i closed it and when i tested the DRM temps the computer had just been doing casual stuff like browsing the web and opening maps etc.. But they were still SOO hot..

I looked around and my speedfan says;
Temp 1: 38c
Temp 2: 39c
Temp 3: 25c
HD1: 38c
GPU: 37c
The cpu is Temp 2 the two other " Temps " i have no idea about what they are..
hmm.. I think they are called DRM's or am i completely wrong?
Atleast the Heatsinks on the motherboard is very hot :sarc:

Temp 3: 25c should be the Motherboard
Temp 1: 38c could be the embedded Chipset (North Bridge: AMD 970 - South Bridge: AMD SB950) under the square heatsinks.

AMD Motherboards - VRM info database Scroll down a bit and after the five "Motherboard Phasing list" there's links to articles explaining what VRMs are for.

It is NOT "DRM" but "VRM" that are power phases of your card (screenshot)

 

[sisrace]

Hi. i checked some temps today on my build and i was like.. Hmm.. My gpu is good, My cpu is good. Even when stressing the system with the case fans at 5V wich moves like bearly nothing but i have the exaust on the top so it acts as an very effective passive exaust too.. And the cpu cooler is right in front too...
But i poked fast on the motherboard heatsinks.. The one closest to the IO panel was fairly hot but i could have my finger there a while..
The one under the cpu was hot enough for me to burn my finger a little but nothing too bad just at the fingertipp. So nothing mayor on me but i got conserned.. Becouse i didnt have anything loaded up... I did stress the GPU to ~95% and the Cpu at ~20% for like ten minutes and then i closed it and when i tested the DRM temps the computer had just been doing casual stuff like browsing the web and opening maps etc.. But they were still SOO hot..

I looked around and my speedfan says;
Temp 1: 38c
Temp 2: 39c
Temp 3: 25c
HD1: 38c
GPU: 37c
The cpu is Temp 2 the two other " Temps " i have no idea about what they are..
hmm.. I think they are called DRM's or am i completely wrong?
Atleast the Heatsinks on the motherboard is very hot :sarc:

Temp 3: 25c should be the Motherboard
Temp 1: 38c could be the embedded Chipset (North Bridge: AMD 970 - South Bridge: AMD SB950) under the square heatsinks.

It is NOT "DRM" but "VRM" that are power phases of your card (screenshot)

Oh yeah... Heard wrongly.. um i started another thread on this and tryed to remove this due to the wrong info ( DRM beeing the biggest reason )

 

[sisrace]

Hi. i checked some temps today on my build and i was like.. Hmm.. My gpu is good, My cpu is good. Even when stressing the system with the case fans at 5V wich moves like bearly nothing but i have the exaust on the top so it acts as an very effective passive exaust too.. And the cpu cooler is right in front too...
But i poked fast on the motherboard heatsinks.. The one closest to the IO panel was fairly hot but i could have my finger there a while..
The one under the cpu was hot enough for me to burn my finger a little but nothing too bad just at the fingertipp. So nothing mayor on me but i got conserned.. Becouse i didnt have anything loaded up... I did stress the GPU to ~95% and the Cpu at ~20% for like ten minutes and then i closed it and when i tested the DRM temps the computer had just been doing casual stuff like browsing the web and opening maps etc.. But they were still SOO hot..

I looked around and my speedfan says;
Temp 1: 38c
Temp 2: 39c
Temp 3: 25c
HD1: 38c
GPU: 37c
The cpu is Temp 2 the two other " Temps " i have no idea about what they are..
hmm.. I think they are called DRM's or am i completely wrong?
Atleast the Heatsinks on the motherboard is very hot :sarc:

Temp 3: 25c should be the Motherboard
Temp 1: 38c could be the embedded Chipset (North Bridge: AMD 970 - South Bridge: AMD SB950) under the square heatsinks.

AMD Motherboards - VRM info database

It is NOT "DRM" but "VRM" that are power phases of your card (screenshot)

Also gigabyte says this board has 2 chipsets
Northbridge: AMD 970 chipset
SouthBridge: AMD SB950

 

[NoN]

Yes could be...!

 

[sisrace]

Yes could be...!

Also... I have been checking out some stuff on my mobo..
Does the Hypertransport have anything to do with overclocking? becouse this board has 4800MT/s
Does it mean i can overclock my 8350 to 4.8Ghz?
Becouse if then thats REALLY good considering this is a 970 chipset that isnt made for overclocking at all but it does support it. So i used to run my cpu at 4.2 ghz but i removed it when my psu whent bad and i havent set it back to the 4.2Ghz even now when i got a RM650W psu

 

[NoN]

Yes could be...!

Also... I have been checking out some stuff on my mobo..
Does the Hypertransport have anything to do with overclocking? becouse this board has 4800MT/s
Does it mean i can overclock my 8350 to 4.8Ghz?
Becouse if then thats REALLY good considering this is a 970 chipset that isnt made for overclocking at all but it does support it. So i used to run my cpu at 4.2 ghz but i removed it when my psu whent bad and i havent set it back to the 4.2Ghz even now when i got a RM650W psu

Seems the HyperTransportBus have to do with data exchange "read & write" at the same time...

With 4+1 Power phases you should be able to have a slight overclock but due to limitation of your phases i won't recommend you to go over 4.2GHz.

Here more infos: Hyper Transport Bus

EDIT: HyperTransport 3.0 what exactly does it help do? (see your bios settings also)

I saw you have a Define R4...If it is the classic case then you can add a Fan on the side to blow airflow on the motherboard chipsets....

 

[sisrace]

Yes could be...!

Also... I have been checking out some stuff on my mobo..
Does the Hypertransport have anything to do with overclocking? becouse this board has 4800MT/s
Does it mean i can overclock my 8350 to 4.8Ghz?
Becouse if then thats REALLY good considering this is a 970 chipset that isnt made for overclocking at all but it does support it. So i used to run my cpu at 4.2 ghz but i removed it when my psu whent bad and i havent set it back to the 4.2Ghz even now when i got a RM650W psu

Seems the HyperTransportBus have to do with data exchange "read & write" at the same time...

With 4+1 Power phases you should be able to have a slight overclock but due to limitation of your phases i won't recommend you to go over 4.2GHz.

Here more infos: Hyper Transport Bus

EDIT: HyperTransport 3.0 what exactly does it help do? (see your bios settings also)

I saw you have a Define R4...If it is the classic case then you can add a Fan on the side to blow airflow on the motherboard chipsets....

Its the windowed version, Also i can overclock higher than 4.2 but i just didnt need that much cpu power.. the 8 core 4ghz is more than enough to thats also why i havent overclocked it again becouse yeah.. The 8350 is quite a beast for me compared to my old Laptop's 1.9Ghz 2.4Ghz turbo quad core. And my old desktops tripple core 2.4ghz

 

[NoN]

You can have a very cpu to Oc'ed but if your motherboard is slightly limited with the Power phases (4+1 in your case), then it is the motherboard that can't clock higher, not the Cpu. Maybe wait a little for AMD users, 'cause i'm more onto Intel board/cpu clocking.

 

[sisrace]

You can have a very cpu to Oc'ed but if your motherboard is slightly limited with the Power phases (4+1 in your case), then it is the motherboard that can't clock higher, not the Cpu. Maybe wait a little for AMD users, 'cause i'm more onto Intel board/cpu clocking.

ok. Well i've seen that AMD cpus are extremely overclock happy while the intels are a bit fussy you need a mobo with a pretty good chipset but the amd's just overclock even with a crazy cheap and pretty low quality board like the one i have..
I suck with motherboard specs so i dont know whats good or not.
4-1 power phases?
MT/s?
WHAT??!
So anyhow my room where 26c so im cooling it now becouse my hands are floating away in sweat so im cooling it now.. But i didnt get it very clear.. Is it normal for the chipset and Vrm heatsinks beeing hot to the touch?
and otherwise.. Should i save up for 2 noctuas? 1 or 2 of them beeing PWM becouse my board has 1 or 2 dont remember pwm case fan connectors.. And the noctuas probably wont be very loud compared to the fractals at 7v. and they probably move more air at lover rpm's

 

[NoN]

26°C in your room is pretty hot, mine stays average max 20°C - 23°C even in early summer. That said you could check the motherboard fan headers available on yours.

For the CPU I have plug with an "Y" cables, 2x4pins 120mm PWM fans with the CPU AirCooler in push/pull in the main CPU_Fan. Better airflow, then.

PS: My motherboard chipset is average 43°C - to 47°C when overclocking, looks your temps are OK for that. Considering the VRMs they can get hot, maybe try to increase the cooling solution on them.

 

[sisrace]

26°C in your room is pretty hot, mine stays average max 20°C - 23°C even in early summer. That said you could check the motherboard fan headers available on yours.

For the CPU I have plug with an "Y" cables, 2x4pins 120mm PWM fans with the CPU AirCooler in push/pull in the main CPU_Fan. Better airflow, then.

PS: My motherboard chipset is average 43°C - to 47°C when overclocking, looks your temps are OK for that. Considering the VRMs they can get hot, maybe try to increase the cooling solution on them.

Guess what
Have an Noctua NH U14s and i have one of them Y PWM splitters so YAY less cost!
But then i just need to buy 2 PWM noctuas wich well... Is not very cheap but i really want noctuas due to their Vibrationdampening, And that they match my Cpu cooler too.. And they are like the Cadilac of fans

 

[NoN]

Noctuas have good Rep!

Your motherboard have:

1. 1 x CPU fan header
2. 2 x system fan headers
3. 1 x power fan header

You can save with the PWM "Y" cable, one fan header. The 2 Fans have to match exactly the same specs when plug with an "Y" Cable, otherwise it might report wrong infos when rotating.

 

[sisrace]

Noctuas have good Rep!

Your motherboard have:

1. 1 x CPU fan header
2. 2 x system fan headers
3. 1 x power fan header

You can save with the PWM "Y" cable, one fan header. The 2 Fans have to match exactly the same specs when plug with an "Y" Cable, otherwise it might report wrong infos when rotating.

Ok good. Um Whats a Power fan? Its the 3 Pin fan header?

 

[madcratebuilder]

Is it normal for the chipset and Vrm heatsinks beeing hot to the touch?

Temps should be in the 20 to low 30C when lightly loaded. With a heavy load I would like to be no higher then 50-55C. GPU and GPU VRM's can deal with higher temps. Your 8350 should never be allowed higher than 61C. I don't know about the 970 chips but the 990 chip set can have high NB temps, lot of users add a tiny heatsink/fan for added cooling. Some add a 50-80mm fan to the back side of the board to cool cpu and vrm's.

 

[Yard Dog]

I like using a free open source hardware monitor.. passing it along .. for you.. you can even pin it to the task bar.. : Open Hardware Monitor - Core temp, fan speed and voltages in a free software gadget

 

[NoN]

Noctuas have good Rep!


Your motherboard have:

1. 1 x CPU fan header
2. 2 x system fan headers
3. 1 x power fan header

You can save with the PWM "Y" cable, one fan header. The 2 Fans have to match exactly the same specs when plug with an "Y" Cable, otherwise it might report wrong infos when rotating.

Ok good. Um Whats a Power fan? Its the 3 Pin fan header?

The infos are very vague on that Power Fan Header, but looks it used to be for power supply that have such connectors. You should be able to plug and monitor a case fan with it also. The best is to try out and see in bios setting what speed it does report

 

[sisrace]

Is it normal for the chipset and Vrm heatsinks beeing hot to the touch?

Temps should be in the 20 to low 30C when lightly loaded. With a heavy load I would like to be no higher then 50-55C. GPU and GPU VRM's can deal with higher temps. Your 8350 should never be allowed higher than 61C. I don't know about the 970 chips but the 990 chip set can have high NB temps, lot of users add a tiny heatsink/fan for added cooling. Some add a 50-80mm fan to the back side of the board to cool cpu and vrm's.
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Why shouldnt i let the 8350 go over 61c?
Also without overclock the Noctua Nh u14s keeps it at no more than 45c at 99% load

 

[sisrace]

UPDATE:
I ran 3dmark 11 with the Open Hardware Monitor in the background..
Here are my 3Dmark Results if anyone is interested.
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 video card benchmark result - AMD FX-8350,Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. 970A-DS3P

And here is a screenshot of the OHM:


( The Voltages i removed becouse it only showed the battery ( 3.192 ) so i could get space for the Gpu fan speed.)

Also i took a screenshot of the temps about 3-4 minutes after the benchmark
and the reason for the cpu beeing 100% is becouse of i ran Prime a bit to see the temp for it... But in 3dmark 11 it only hit max 88% usage

Chassifans where set to 7V instead of 5V. But i ramp them up to 7V while gaming

 

[Solarstarshines]

Yes could be...!

Also... I have been checking out some stuff on my mobo..
Does the Hypertransport have anything to do with overclocking? becouse this board has 4800MT/s
Does it mean i can overclock my 8350 to 4.8Ghz?
Becouse if then thats REALLY good considering this is a 970 chipset that isnt made for overclocking at all but it does support it. So i used to run my cpu at 4.2 ghz but i removed it when my psu whent bad and i havent set it back to the 4.2Ghz even now when i got a RM650W psu

First of all why did you OC it to 4.2 it does that on stock turbo

In a sense you didn't overclock anything you just maxed out the stock configuration any more and you would of ran into trouble most boards for that chip are 8+2 phase out of the box it's 4 ghz turbo 4.2