Many games crashing, no BSOD, Speccy+FurMark attached

[FredyC]

Seems this is rather popular topic here. I cannot really remember when it started, but it will be more than 2 months now. Crash happens quite soon after game starts, usually not even like 10 minutes. It doesn't end up with BSOD, but sometimes whole system gets frozen and it's not even reacting to reset button. I have to power down whole machine.

Crashing games set is various and it's not always about graphic intensity. Few examples: Take on Helicopters, Prison Architect, Project Zomboid, The Amazing Spider-Man 2. However there are games that does not have a issue, for example Euro Truck Simulator 2.

Here is the link for the results from Speccy. I had it running during watch tv show to have more precise temperature measurement: http://speccy.piriform.com/results/AbnX1bYv1UQAO8LRemBnnhb

I had also tried to run FurMark as was suggested in other topic. Log is attached in the attachment. Note that during test I tried to boost Fan speed for GPU as it was running only at 40%. I am using MSI Afterburner to OC that GPU bit and it is set for automatic corrections of Fan speed.

I also checked event log and exported records from two recent crashes of Take on Helicopters. Nothing helpful in there in my opinion. In the time of crash there are no other records, that could help with anything.

I am planning to run Memtest during the night, but I doubt that it's source of the issue. I had troubles with memory in the past and it usually lead to BSOD. This is quite different.

Edit: By instructions in this topic I tried to generate some more crash intel, but since it froze the system again, it didn't made any dump. I have attached log files that were made, but I doubt it can help. I will keep trying with this if I manage to do just game crash without system crash.

Edit2: Ok, I have managed to cause crash without system freeze and it created dump. I have attached it.

 

[FredyC]

Well it's week now, guess it's time to bump the topic for a bit as it got lost out of sight probably ... or is nobody able to help me, please ?

I have been communicating with Bohemia Interactive about crashes of Take On Helicopters. They are pretty much clueless and since it's not only game that's crashing, it's probably not their fault.

 

[FredyC]

And another bump after week. I have run memtest86+ for 7 passes without single error. Then I have returned OC of GPU to original settings, updated nVidia drivers again and run FurMark for another 3 hours. FPS is not great, but no crash at all. I am running out of options here. Do you think it's possibly some software fault and reinstalling OS could help ?

 

[Alex1986]

Then I have returned OC of GPU to original settings, updated nVidia drivers again and run FurMark for another 3 hours. FPS is not great, but no crash at all. I am running out of options here. Do you think it's possibly some software fault and reinstalling OS could help ?

User fault from what you wrote.

Returned OC of GPU to orginal settings = no crash at all

Improve cooling system or forget about OC simple.

Edit: Out of curiosity how much did you OC when i had desktop you could OC a lot but i keept safe value 20% max even though i could squeez cpu & gpu a lot.

Now i have laptop and i don't bother with OC since that would be insane

 

[FredyC]

Well, you have misunderstood me. In the first post, I have run Furmark when it was OC and there was no crash either. When running those game, it still crashes

 

[Alex1986]

Well, you have misunderstood me. In the first post, I have run Furmark when it was OC and there was no crash either. When running those game, it still crashes

Some games push your temp more than others for example dragon age & mass effect 1&2 preaty much always made my hardware very hot.

Just play on lower settings with no OC.

Or buy new gfx? 100$ should be enought to get something better...

 

[FredyC]

Are you telling me, that Furmark is not making my GPU sweaty enough ? Then what is the purpose of that software ?

 

[carwiz]

One of the first things we look at when trying to help is whether the OP can follow directions. This is simply being constructive advice. In the instruction link at the top of the page there's detailed steps to follow on what to post and what to do if your system is not creating dumps. The logs you included are helpful but incomplete. They also show that dumps were created.

For us to help you, you must help us. Fix the dump problem first then upload the requested files from the SF Diagnostic Utility.

 

[Alex1986]

Are you telling me, that Furmark is not making my GPU sweaty enough ? Then what is the purpose of that software ?

Well for example im preaty sure if you run prime on stock cooling it will overheat. So yee Furmark is kinda forgiving.

Like you said earlier when you reverted to stock settings everything is fine so just run on default.

Edit: I think i will OC and complain that i got unstable system i wonder what advice i would get from people.

 

[FredyC]

Since I didn't encountered BSOD, I thought that those dumps are not relevant, since these guidelines are for BSOD situations. I am sorry about my confusion. Attaching SFDU zip file now...

 

[FredyC]

Like you said earlier when you reverted to stock settings everything is fine so just run on default.

I admit that my ability to explain stuff is horrible. Sorry about that. Rereading my first post today I see the confusion. I just wanted to say that Furmark run without crash after OC has been reverted, but that is the as same with OC. Games are still crashing even without OC.

 

[Alex1986]

I found this in your logs...

"The NVIDIA OpenGL driver has encountered
an out of memory error. This application might
behave inconsistently and fail."

The fun part is this error is from 2013 to current 2014

Maybe lower textures you have less than 1gb on your card and playing at what 1680 x 1050? I think card is just to weak lower to 1280x720.

Is there a demo for one of your games that's crashing maybe it's just crappy game?

 

[FredyC]

Yes, there is demo ... Take On Demo | Take On Helicopters

I am gonna try it with lower setting. If it's really the issue, the developers are quite lame when not handling such error properly.

Edit: Still crashing after lowering many settings, game looks like crap. I have been playing much more graphic intensive games on this machine without crash. Also I can play ToH game on my laptop without any issue using on board video card.

 

[Alex1986]

I am gonna try it with lower setting. If it's really the issue, the developers are quite lame when not handling such error properly.

Developers don't care...

Im gonna cheak the demo OMG 4gb...ehh im off will be back later.

So if your sure it's not gfx so maybe psu is dying? i had bsod,crashes on my old desktop when playing games other things worked fine.

Edit: This is why im laptop fan something is breaking i buy a new one and it's cheap 300-400$ sure can't run in ultra but medium 720p is enought for me.

 

[FredyC]

So if your sure it's not gfx so maybe psu is dying? i had bsod,crashes on my old desktop when playing games other things worked fine.

If by "psu" you mean "cpu" then I somewhat doubt that, it's like one year old machine. Are there any benchmarks for the cpu testing ? I know about OCCT and I can run it through the night if necessary.

 

[Alex1986]

PSU - Power Supply Unit.

I just remembered this from my old desktop 3 years ago i had crashes,bsod and other wired things happening when playing games mostly 3d ones.

When i returned to normal settings on my cpu and gfx and diden't play heavy intensive games everything was running fine.

So it might be psu...

And since i diden't find anything in logs(too be honest im too lazy to cheak them completly) it might be psu.

Could you borrow one from friend and see if it still gives you crashing?

 

[FredyC]

Well unfortunately I don't have any friend with spare PSU to borrow. However when you are talking about power issues...I have whole machine connected to 9 years old APC unit. I have some weird issues recently when whole APC just cuts the power to everything. Is it possible that it could be causing troubles like game crashing? Sounds very unlikely.

 

[Alex1986]

Sounds very unlikely.

Fine then im out of ideas hope someone else will help you.

 

[taylorig]

Hey Fredy,

You really need to do a process of elimination. Like take it off the APC and plug the IEC or kettle lead as its commonly known as. Direct in to the wall outlet.

Back off ANY overclocks (Which i think you have done already. But double check). Then it is a matter of testing other parts out to see if these crashes still persist. Its the only way to be honest. It might be an idea to watch/log temps with CPU-Z/GPU-Z also.

The worst thing is in these cases is if you don't have a friend or anyone with parts you can borrow for testing purposes