Jimbos confused - W7 Mainstream support to end 2015

[jimbo45]

Hi there

Is THIS true -- W7 Mainstream support to end in 2015 -- I thought W7 was going on until around 2020.

This comes from FORBES - usually "Semi reliable" -- beware a lot of irritating ads that popup while you are trying to read the article -- there's no malware or "Malvertisements" in the article - just gets a bit irritating

Microsoft To Abandon Windows 7 Mainstream Support. Pressure Builds On Windows 9 - Forbes

I see EXTENDED support will continue but that's a different Animal.

BTW OT here but there's quite an interesting feature elsewhere - XP to get an un-official (not Ms) SP4 -- for those running XP as a VM that might be interesting too - although as always with "Unsanctioned" patches it's very definitely A.Y.O.R. - although the site does have credibility.

Note also from same magazine so you might get a few ads when reading - no malware though.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonk...indows-xp-sp4-launched-microsoft-os-lives-on/



Cheers
jimbo

 

[King Arthur]

Mainstream support will end on January 13, 2015.
However, extended support will continue until January 14, 2020.

The difference between mainstream and extended support is that during mainstream support, updates to Windows 7 may include new features, subsystems, and so forth in addition to security updates.

Once mainstream support ends and extended support comes around, Windows 7 will only receive security updates.

To put this into perspective, mainstream and extended support for Windows XP ended on April 14, 2009 and April 8, 2014 respectively.

 

[jimbo45]

Hi there

So if a new version of IE comes out it's unlikely to be backported to W7 - so no IE12 for example with rubbish things like JAVA and FLASH removed for better security.

Similarly if W9 for example has support for the new file systems such BTRFS then we might get connectivity problems across LANS etc.

I'm sure a lot of W7 users won't want to be forced to use FF, Chrome or other alternative browsers. especially as the Browser is probably the way 99% of people get their computers infected (downloads etc).

As far as XP is concerned I don't have it connected to the Internet -

Cheers
jimbo

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Hi there

So if a new version of IE comes out it's unlikely to be backported to W7 - so no IE12 for example with rubbish things like JAVA and FLASH removed for better security.

Similarly if W9 for example has support for the new file systems such BTRFS then we might get connectivity problems across LANS etc.

I'm sure a lot of W7 users won't want to be forced to use FF, Chrome or other alternative browsers. especially as the Browser is probably the way 99% of people get their computers infected (downloads etc).

As far as XP is concerned I don't have it connected to the Internet -

Cheers
jimbo

Possibly. The first few may be backwards compatible to Win 7 and later ones may not. If that happens, M$ will probably keep supporting the latest one that can be used on Win 7 until Win 7's EOL, same as they did with XP. But, then again, M$ has been a bunch of jerks (polite, forum permissible term) regarding supporting Win 7 (such as refusing to come out with an SP2) so, who knows?

 

[gregrocker]

These decrees are issued from a netherworld where Windows 8 has already replaced Windows 7. I will witness this again for the fifth time at the Global MVP Summit in Seattle in November.

Meanwhile Windows 7 is the most wildly popular OS in history, still growing in popularity and sales. Nearly the entire business and academic worlds have moved off of XP into Win7, which is now fully driving the world economy with a tiny assist from Apple.

 

[Loki]

From what I can tell W7 Mainstream support a end a week after W7 SP1 was released... (yes I know it didn't officially end)

Just my observation of the love Microsoft has for W7 and it's user base.

Loki

 

[lehnerus2000]

From what I can tell W7 Mainstream support a end a week after W7 SP1 was released... (yes I know it didn't officially end)

Just my observation of the love Microsoft has for W7 and it's user base.

I suspect it just took a while for reality to hammer its way into "Cloud Cuckoo Land" at MS HQ.

 

[logicearth]

I don't know why you guys are surprised. This information was available before Windows 7 even launched. Every product Microsoft releases has a Support Life Cycle. This is not news, nor surprising. They are not abandoning Windows 7, as the scare tactic, sensational article title wants you to believe, it is just click bait.

 

[Layback Bear]

I'm suggesting that one must remember Microsoft is competing against Microsoft.

Windows 7 is getting all the X XPers; Windows 8 isn't doing much and I don't believe ever will. If Windows 9 is done proper it will such up all but a few of Windows 8 users and some Windows 7 users. Microsoft doesn't care which one you buy as long as you buy one or more.

That is why Windows 7 will never have a SP-2. SP's don't make Microsoft any money. Making Windows 7 better also might draw sales away from Windows 8 and 9. Microsoft is like any other business; they need and want sales.

 

[King Arthur]

Similarly if W9 for example has support for the new file systems such BTRFS then we might get connectivity problems across LANS etc.

I can say with certainty that file system interoperability across LANs will not be a problem. File system access across networks is abstracted through the host operating system handling that drive, so the client operating system accessing the drive through that host will never be concerned with its file system.

I say this because Windows 9x operating systems, which have no native support for NTFS, are able to access NTFS file systems perfectly fine with no fuss if it is over LAN through hosts running whatever flavor of Windows NT (2000, XP, 7, etc.).

To reiterate in simpler terms: If the host OS has support for a given file system, a client OS will face no problems accessing that file system regardless of its own support or lack thereof.

 

[Berton]

Mac OS X has no built-in support for NTFS-formatted External USB HDDs but does just fine with a NAS/Network Attached Storage NTFS-formatted drive connected to a Router. The NAS also supports Linux computers.

 

[jimbo45]

Similarly if W9 for example has support for the new file systems such BTRFS then we might get connectivity problems across LANS etc.

I can say with certainty that file system interoperability across LANs will not be a problem. File system access across networks is abstracted through the host operating system handling that drive, so the client operating system accessing the drive through that host will never be concerned with its file system.

I say this because Windows 9x operating systems, which have no native support for NTFS, are able to access NTFS file systems perfectly fine with no fuss if it is over LAN through hosts running whatever flavor of Windows NT (2000, XP, 7, etc.).

To reiterate in simpler terms: If the host OS has support for a given file system, a client OS will face no problems accessing that file system regardless of its own support or lack thereof.

Hi there

Thanks for clearing me up on that -- I suppose I SHOULD really have known the answer especially as I share LINUX files with Windows via SAMBA - the Windows machines don't have any trouble reading / writing to the Linux shares whatever file system is used on the Host machine (Reiserfs / ext2, ext4 etc).

Anyway thanks again for clearing that up.

It's also possible that people might make an unofficial W7 SP2 project - rather like the ongoing XP SP4 project which actually works quite well !!!!

http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=133918#133918


Cheers
jimbo

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

...It's also possible that people might make an unofficial W7 SP2 project...

I still don't see why M$ won't make an SP2 for Win 7 (other than greed and sheer orneriness). Even if it was just a collection of all previous updates in one service pack, it would make life simpler for a lot of Win 7 users.

 

[gregrocker]

...It's also possible that people might make an unofficial W7 SP2 project...

http://www.sevenforums.com/installation-setup/282232-test-update-7-installation-media.html

 

[OvenMaster]

The only people who Micro$oft cares about are the stockholders, not the users. Windows Vista and 8 prove it.

 

[gregrocker]

Getting ready for a birthday here at the home of Windows 7.

 

[andrew129260]

I think windows 7 support will be extended just like xp was. XP support was supposed to completely end in 2009 but got extended until 2014.

Businesses just now are getting windows 7, so I think it is very likely microsoft will be forced to extend 7 support.

And I do not understand why it would need replaced soon anyways. It is not like xp where technology has changed so rapidly that the OS cannot keep up. Windows xp was released in the days of the internets true beginning where everyone started to get online. Windows xp was not prepared for security threats, or malware or hacking attacks.

I am not saying windows 8 does not improve on the security of 7, it does. But it is no where near enough improvement to abandon ship.

We shall see what windows 9 brings. If it sucks as well, I will stay with 7 until I can no longer, then bye bye Microsoft and hello Linux.

 

[BlueGuy]

Boy, am I late!

Windows 7 is getting all the X XPers; .

..... the drive through that host will never be concerned with its file system.
I say this because Windows 9x operating systems, which have no native support for NTFS, are able to access NTFS file systems perfectly fine with no fuss if it is over LAN through hosts running whatever flavor of Windows NT (2000, XP, 7, etc.).
To reiterate in simpler terms: If the host OS has support for a given file system, a client OS will face no problems accessing that file system regardless of its own support or lack thereof.

Hi there

.......It's also possible that people might make an unofficial W7 SP2 project - rather like the ongoing XP SP4 project which actually works quite well !!!!
RyanVM.net Discussion Board :: View topic - Starting a Windows XP Service Pack 4 Project
Cheers
jimbo

Like the Windows 2000 Pro project that has been going on for years;
RyanVM.net Discussion Board :: View topic - Post-EOL unofficial updates for Windows 2000
Since I have the SP4 integrated VL already and no longer have to pay for it.
& Windows NT4 / 2000 / 2003 - MSFN Forum
It has its' uses and goes beyond the 32 bit ram limit plus one fellow
breaking the two-core barrier as well.
http://i.imgur.com/H24q6dg.jpg

I think windows 7 support will be extended just like xp was. XP support was supposed to completely end in 2009 but got extended until 2014.
Businesses just now are getting windows 7, so I think it is very likely microsoft will be forced to extend 7 support.
And I do not understand why it would need replaced soon anyways. It is not like xp where technology has changed so rapidly that the OS cannot keep up. Windows xp was released in the days of the internets true beginning where everyone started to get online. Windows xp was not prepared for security threats, or malware or hacking attacks. ..
We shall see what windows 9 brings. If it sucks as well, I will stay with 7 until I can no longer, then bye bye Microsoft and hello Linux.

I'm not fussy, as long as 9 still lets me [in 32-bit with or without PAE] run my MDP-130s and the Plus! Pack
from Windows '98 (I like my pointers red, not black or white, in 32bit or 64) for subtle customizations with
the classic desktop [using 'Maple' as the starting point] and other legacy stuff.
I play with Linux but since abandoning Atari TOS/MiNT in '98, do most of my work in Windows.
However, at the same time having increased my use of open source, much of it written by former Atari [and Commodore] programmers. Still use an nLited XPPro in one of the HTPCs but the firewall is set to only allow the clock setting corrections and the TV listings to get through.

 

[Ranger4]

I suppose it could depend on how well Windows 9 is accepted. If 9 has the same response in the market as 8 had & an attempt to rectify that with 8.1, which only satisfied a small percentage, then MS may be forced to bring out an SP 2 for 7. Time will tell.

 

[gregrocker]

If 9 has the same response in the market as 8 had & an attempt to rectify that with 8.1, which only satisfied a small percentage, then MS may be forced to bring out an SP 2 for 7.

Please?

Guaranteed proven success vs. more Playskool on the Start menu. icnic: