Pale Moon 25 Major Changes, Add-on Issues

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Pale Moon no longer supports XP installs (unless you count the Atom version).

People are reporting that PM 25 is breaking add-ons (view the comments for possible fixes).
Pale Moon 25 available now, introduces major changes - gHacks Tech News

<censored> Issues
Pale Moon Forum

On my PC, <censored> is totally broken (can't even find the button/icon)!

Also, Google Image search doesn't function properly either.

I'm going to try copying PM v24.7.2 from my backup images.
I might have to re-image my entire W7 install. :(
 
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Google image search I noticed. I had been using Pale Moon for it as on Opera 12.17, I get that old design. It is Google decising I have an outdated browser. It is deciding the same for Pale Moon now as well.

BBC News - Google 'discourages' users of old browsers

I can only assume that since PM is based on Firefox, and FF is on version 32, that Pale Moon is now also considered "outdated".

A Guy
 

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It's a PM v25 Issue

Google image search I noticed. I had been using Pale Moon for it as on Opera 12.17, I get that old design. It is Google decising I have an outdated browser. It is deciding the same for Pale Moon now as well.

BBC News - Google 'discourages' users of old browsers

I can only assume that since PM is based on Firefox, and FF is on version 32, that Pale Moon is now also considered "outdated".
Since I overwrote PM v25 (with PM v24.7.2) Google Image Search is now working as expected.

I tried dragging my Signature picture into Google Image Search.
It had no idea what it was.
It's suggestions were amusing. :D

I guess that Google doesn't understand the new PM GUID?
 

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ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
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12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
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Realtek?
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Samsung S23B350
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1920x1080
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WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
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Cooler Master
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Antec GX300 Tower
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3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
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Wired Optical
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Avast
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Pale Moon (64 bit)
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2018-12-27 Upgraded HDDs
2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
I also updated to version 25, then lost some add-ons that I really liked... especially AdBlock and Lightbeam. Decided to do a System restore to get back to version 24.7.2 so I could use those add-ons. Now I just close the update window for version 25, but probably will bite the bullet and install the next version above 25 when the add-on issues are solve (if ever...).

Jim
 

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IE, Chrome, and FF pretty much share the features (Opening Tabs, the design, etc.).
 

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It broke my ForecastFox extension. Then I went out in the rain by accident. Went to the archives and reinstalled 24.xx whatever.
 

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Good to see you Steve ;)

New version today

25.0.1 (2014-10-15)
This is a small update to address an important Jetpack extension compatibility issue and includes a number of security fixes.
Update of the add-on SDK to add missing "Pale Moon" engine entries to lists. This should fix extension compatibility issues for jetpack extensions that otherwise already work with the new GUID.
About box release notes link corrected
Fix for VP9 decoder vulnerability security fix
Fix for direct access to raw connection sockets in http security fix
Fix for unsafe conversion to JSON of data through the alarm dom element security fix
Update of NSS to 3.16.2.2-RTM security fix

A Guy
 

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Still on PM 24.7.2, I'll just get around to updating sometime next year when I am randomly reminded. I ran FF 12 for the longest time until I moved over to PM anyhow.

Ain't nobody got time to be bothering with extension compatibility issues and browser ID wars.
 

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I think I'll wait a few weeks to see if the complaints have stopped, before I try updating again.
 

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ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
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12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
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Realtek?
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Samsung S23B350
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1920x1080
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WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
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Cooler Master
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Antec GX300 Tower
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3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
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Wired Optical
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Pale Moon (64 bit)
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2018-12-27 Upgraded HDDs
2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
The Pale Moon forum is pretty decent and up-front about addressing bugs. I'm keeping an eye on that until I see a lot of "Gee, thanks!" type of posts.
 

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Both: Onboard Realtek Azalia
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Main - Hann 25" + I-INC 25" + Acer 23"; 2nd - Upgrading Soon
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Main - 1920x1080 (All Three Monitors); 2nd - Upgrading Soon
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Main - (1) Crucial M4 128GB (Boot)
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Main - OCZ 600W Modular; 2nd - OCZ 600W
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Main - Corsair H80; 2nd - Prolimatech Megahalems
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Main - Razer Reclusa; 2nd - Old MS Keyboard
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Main - Logitech MX Revolution; 2nd - Old MS Mouse
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I use to have my FF and PaleMoon browsers set to auto update, but lately I have since changed them all to never update. This way they STAY the same and I don't have to reconfigure them to the way I HAD IT before any such update. If I have issues then I will update as needed. My .02
 

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I can't get to Gmail due to that SSL 3.0 issue that Firefox has in Firefox 34 Beta 1. I also can't get to it in PM 25.0.1 64 Bit. I have not tried IE yet.
 

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gmail seems fine on ie10 :/
 

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