XP, W8.1 & W10 up, W7 down

MS is like the government - they lie when they open their mouth.

And now they are graciously offering their services to ensure our elections are accurate! Oh well, flip a coin, same result.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 x64 SP1AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ / 3.0 GHz6 GB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Gateway GT5656
OS
Windows 7 x64 SP1
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ / 3.0 GHz
Motherboard
NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE
Memory
6 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
Lenovo LED
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1080
Hard Drives
Windows on 500 GB spinner; Ubuntu 16 on Sandisk 250GB SSD; Bodhi5 on Samsung 250GB SSD; another old spinner for fooling around.
PSU
Original that came with computer
Keyboard
Logitech wireless
Mouse
Logitech wireless
Antivirus
Microsoft Sec Essentials
Browser
Vivaldi
Maybe it's an issue with the latest version of PaleMoon.

I can see ThrashZone's graph, but I can't see the graph I posted in Post #1 (only the site link).

It has also vanished from my profile's Attachments list. :confused:

Ah, you're referring to a graph rather than the link to the graphs etc. Sorry, I hadn't realised there was ever a graph in Post #1, it was the link I was referring to as working ok. I'm like you, I can see the graph in ThrashZone's post, but not in yours.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64AMD Phenom II X4 9558GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3Gigabyte Geforce GTX 960 2GB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom build by PC Specialist
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955
Motherboard
Asus M4A78T-E
Memory
8GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte Geforce GTX 960 2GB
Sound Card
SB Audigy
Monitor(s) Displays
BenQ 24"
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
500GB Serial ATA
PSU
1010W Quiet Quad Rail
Case
Antec 900
Cooling
Fenrir
Keyboard
Corsair
Mouse
Logitech
Internet Speed
20mbps
Antivirus
MSE plus MBAM 2.x Free
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Second desktop different spec but similar level.
Maybe it's an issue with the latest version of PaleMoon.

I can see ThrashZone's graph, but I can't see the graph I posted in Post #1 (only the site link).

It has also vanished from my profile's Attachments list. :confused:
I just took a snip and uploaded it as a attachment :/
It's better not to use your profile library to show images it just complicates attachments ;)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64biti7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM'...Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
Maybe it's an issue with the latest version of PaleMoon.

I can see ThrashZone's graph, but I can't see the graph I posted in Post #1 (only the site link).

It has also vanished from my profile's Attachments list. :confused:
I just took a snip and uploaded it as a attachment :/
It's better not to use your profile library to show images it just complicates attachments ;)
That's what I do (and did). :)

It showed up when I was creating/testing the post, but when I logged in again (several hours later) it had vanished.
The same thing happened when I tried again.

The only way I've figured out how to reuse attachments is to:

  • Display them
  • Copy the URL
  • Insert it into the post using the "Insert Image" tool
All my previously uploaded attachments show up in my profile's Attachments list.

I've "spoken" to Brink about it.
I'll fire up one of my VMs and try uploading it again using FF or Chrome (later).
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, ...AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2G...NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
n/a
OS
W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
Memory
12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Sound Card
Realtek?
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S23B350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
PSU
Cooler Master
Case
Antec GX300 Tower
Cooling
3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
Mouse
Wired Optical
Internet Speed
DSL
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Pale Moon (64 bit)
Other Info
2018-12-27 Upgraded HDDs
2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
Statistics can be fiddled which way you want to show them. Considering Windows 10 is free it is a dismal failure. It could have been such a different story. If they would have kept Media Center and the Aero Desktop Graphics subsystem as an option. If they had left the control panel alone and not try to load all this mobile crap onto the desktop OS. The crazy part is they made Windows 10 for mobile devices and then have killed of Windows Phone. What exactly do we need Windows 10 for?
I just see a company with no direction with one failure after another. In all honesty the only users who would be better of on 10 are the 8 and possibly 8.1 users. Every one else should hang tight on 7 until Microsoft has a change of direction. I love Linux Mint Mate. Been messing with it. Once 7 is EOL that is where I'll be unless there is a change of directions at M$.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and numerous virtual m...AMD FX-8350 Vishera 32nm Technology @ 4.2 GHz...G Skill 32.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 1204MHz (1...EVGA GeForce GTX 960 4GB Super SC ACX 2.0+ wi...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Bluethunder II
OS
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and numerous virtual machines
CPU
AMD FX-8350 Vishera 32nm Technology @ 4.2 GHz default
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 (Socket 942)
Memory
G Skill 32.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 1204MHz (11-13-13-31)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce GTX 960 4GB Super SC ACX 2.0+ with Back Plate
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Titanium HD Audiophile PCIe
Monitor(s) Displays
LG L227WTG x 3
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050 16:10
Hard Drives
238GB Samsung850 PRO SATA Disk Device (SSD)
1863GB Seagate ST2000DM 001-1CH164 (SATA)
1397GB Seagate ST1500DL 003-9VT16L(SATA)
466GB Western Digital WDC WD50 03AZEX-00K1GA0 (SATA) x 2
932GB Seagate ST310005 28AS SATA Disk Device (SATA)
PSU
Enermax Revolution87+ 1000 Watts Gold Certified Power Supply
Case
Rocketfish Full Tower
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Push Pull 120mm Fans
Keyboard
Logitech K740
Mouse
Logitech G100S Laser LED + Logitech Gamepad F310
Internet Speed
500 mbs down and 30mbs up
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro & Avast and MSE on certain Virtual Machines
Browser
Firefox (Main) Chrome, Internet Explorer (Back Up)
Other Info
Logitech X 230 2.1 Stereo System and 5.1 Yamaha RX V2090
B&W DM6 Monitor Speakers + Center and Surround Speakers
Using Mouse Without Borders (Google it)
I just see a company with no direction with one failure after another.

:ditto::doh:
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
Statistics can be fiddled which way you want to show them. Considering Windows 10 is free it is a dismal failure. It could have been such a different story. If they would have kept Media Center and the Aero Desktop Graphics subsystem as an option. If they had left the control panel alone and not try to load all this mobile crap onto the desktop OS. The crazy part is they made Windows 10 for mobile devices and then have killed of Windows Phone. What exactly do we need Windows 10 for?
I just see a company with no direction with one failure after another. In all honesty the only users who would be better of on 10 are the 8 and possibly 8.1 users. Every one else should hang tight on 7 until Microsoft has a change of direction. I love Linux Mint Mate. Been messing with it. Once 7 is EOL that is where I'll be unless there is a change of directions at M$.

I'm sure it's no coincidence MS went pear-shaped just around the time Bill Gates left...

And yet it's really very simple. All I want, and I know I speak for one or two others, is to be given the opportunity to say two things to MS:-

1. As a choice between operating systems, both of which are yours, I wish to stick with W7 rather than switch to W10. Either way I remain your customer.

2. Don't ask me again. If I change my mind, I'll apply accordingly.

That is really very simple, isn't it?
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64AMD Phenom II X4 9558GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3Gigabyte Geforce GTX 960 2GB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom build by PC Specialist
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955
Motherboard
Asus M4A78T-E
Memory
8GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte Geforce GTX 960 2GB
Sound Card
SB Audigy
Monitor(s) Displays
BenQ 24"
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
500GB Serial ATA
PSU
1010W Quiet Quad Rail
Case
Antec 900
Cooling
Fenrir
Keyboard
Corsair
Mouse
Logitech
Internet Speed
20mbps
Antivirus
MSE plus MBAM 2.x Free
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Second desktop different spec but similar level.
Statistics can be fiddled which way you want to show them. .

"I can prove anything by statistics, except the truth" - George Canning

Stats are the double edge sword of arguments as they can help make your case, but they can also hurt your case in the very same context. Adjust particular parameters and factors and you can make even the worst situation seem not so bad.

One thing I wonder about their install on devices "200 million" , is how man computers that had the BT $Windows hidden folders secretly inserted onto their computers fell under this category? Granted that they technically weren't running windows 10 at the time however, 10 was theoretically installed on their computer, just not activated. Maybe, maybe not, but I'd bet my life that the numbers don't reflect the amount of roll backs (I'd like to see those numbers):)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 520 @ 2.40GHz8.00 GBNVIDIA NVS 3100M
Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 520 @ 2.40GHz
Motherboard
Dell Inc. 0K42JR
Memory
8.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA NVS 3100M
Sound Card
(1) NVIDIA High Definition Audio (2) IDT High Definition A
Monitor(s) Displays
1
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
Hard Drives
Samsung SSD 840 PRO Series ATA Device
3rd time's a charm

There are noticeable differences between StatCounter and NetMarketShare.

I've re-uploaded the graph (Post #1 and this Post) using FF.
Let's see if it sticks.
381050d1454543872-xp-w8-1-w10-up-w7-down-market-share-os-2016-02-02-2-month-bar-chart.png


Data from NetMarketShare
One thing I wonder about their install on devices "200 million" , is how man computers that had the BT $Windows hidden folders secretly inserted onto their computers fell under this category? Granted that they technically weren't running windows 10 at the time however, 10 was theoretically installed on their computer, just not activated. Maybe, maybe not, but I'd bet my life that the numbers don't reflect the amount of roll backs (I'd like to see those numbers):)
MS tried something similar with W8.
A short time after release they claimed that they had sold 100M copies.

None of the market share sites showed anything like that number.
 
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My Computer My Computer

At a glance

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, ...AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2G...NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
n/a
OS
W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
Memory
12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Sound Card
Realtek?
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S23B350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
PSU
Cooler Master
Case
Antec GX300 Tower
Cooling
3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
Mouse
Wired Optical
Internet Speed
DSL
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Pale Moon (64 bit)
Other Info
2018-12-27 Upgraded HDDs
2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
Looks good. I can clearly read it. But I had no problem with the one in post #1 either. I am using Chrome.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
Looks good. I can clearly read it. But I had no problem with the one in post #1 either. I am using Chrome.
It must be a Pale Moon 26 issue.

It's weird that I could see other people's images (and my previously uploaded images) though. :confused:

Additional
It must have been some weird glitch in the chain (PC > Internet > SevenForums).
I posted another pic in a different thread and it is still there.
 
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My Computer My Computer

At a glance

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, ...AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2G...NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
n/a
OS
W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
Memory
12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Sound Card
Realtek?
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S23B350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
PSU
Cooler Master
Case
Antec GX300 Tower
Cooling
3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
Mouse
Wired Optical
Internet Speed
DSL
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Pale Moon (64 bit)
Other Info
2018-12-27 Upgraded HDDs
2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
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