Windows 7 is EOL is near, what will you do?

[Marie SWE]

15 years That's impressive! I did do a job working nights once - I only lasted a year! :roflmao: Just couldn't get my body adjusted to it, and missed my nightlife, so went back to a day job.

Okay*hahaha* Perhaps one must be born with the right/wrong genes to manage night work in the long run.

 

[Botard]

Don't be a geek Marie, they are boring. You'll get old.

Have a nice day,
Botard

 

[Marie SWE]

Don't be a geek Marie, they are boring. You'll get old.

Have a nice day,
Botard

*hahaha* I don't think is a big risk for me to become a true geek.
Cars is my biggest interest, almost all my money goes to them. I'm born and raised in a family that has car interests. So computers are something I have as a hobby.. cars doesn't give me a mental challenge anymore.

Thanks, and I wish you a nice day back.

 

[lehnerus2000]

Manjaro + Microsoft Office Online

One of the reasons people cite for not using Linux Distros is that MS Office isn't available.
Since MS now has an online version of MS Office, that complaint isn't really true anymore.

The Manjaro developers have now gone one step further.
Dedoimedo - Manjaro + Microsoft Office Online - Yup, come over

This combination may make it easier for people to avoid W10, if/when they decided to stop using W7.

Note:
You need a MS online account.

 

[TechnoMage2016]

Ridiculous! This is a Windows forum, to help people with problems on their Windows based PC's, and Not a Linux, Unix or MAC forum. So can we (all) please confine our remarks to making the Windows operating system work as best as possible, for all those who come here specifically for answers to Windows problems.

The topic here is what to do when Windows 7 reaches it's EOL. For 99.99% of Windows 7 users, it is not required for them to do anything. I certainly Won't!
Just like Windows XP went right on working long after its own EOL, Windows 7 will do no less.

It wasn't that long ago, that the US Veteran's Administration, upgraded thousands of computer terminals (PC's) from Windows XP to Windows 7. I fully expect that they will still be using Windows 7 long past its EOL. I know I will!

Thank You,
TechnoMage

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Ridiculous! This is a Windows forum, to help people with problems on their Windows based PC's, and Not a Linux, Unix or MAC forum. So can we (all) please confine our remarks to making the Windows operating system work as best as possible, for all those who come here specifically for answers to Windows problems.

The topic here is what to do when Windows 7 reaches it's EOL. For 99.99% of Windows 7 users, it is not required for them to do anything. I certainly Won't!
Just like Windows XP went right on working long after its own EOL, Windows 7 will do no less.

It wasn't that long ago, that the US Veteran's Administration, upgraded thousands of computer terminals (PC's) from Windows XP to Windows 7. I fully expect that they will still be using Windows 7 long past its EOL. I know I will!

Thank You,
TechnoMage

Like it or not, moving on to an OS other than Windows after Win 7 reaches EOL is a viable option and discussion of that option is appropriate for this thread.

 

[TheDeerDude]

Hm, what will I do when Windows 7 will no longer receive security updates... well, considering I haven't installed any since it came out - just carry on as usual c:

Yes, I do realize how stupid what I'm doing is. I like having the choice. I haven't had many problems over the years, thankfully. Not as many as Windows 10 has given me with its updates, since I started using that. To each their own.

Someone mentioned having lost faith in Windows. I've lost faith in the whole of Microsoft. Gave up on Skype about a year ago. I've only recently started playing around with Linux, and I've been loving it, but still find it extremely confusing.. I saw someone post a link to a website with tutorials, very nice.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

...I saw someone post a link to a website with tutorials, very nice.

Shoot, I must have missed that link. Could you please repost it?

 

[TheDeerDude]

Shoot, I must have missed that link. Could you please repost it?

Of course, sorry - it was mentioned here: Windows 7 is EOL is near, what will you do? - Page 5 - Windows 7 Help Forums

From the quick look I've had at the website, it seems that it's for beginners ^ ^ perfect for me, maybe not so perfect for people who know how to use the terminal, know the commands, piping and scripting.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Of course, sorry - it was mentioned here: Windows 7 is EOL is near, what will you do? - Page 5 - Windows 7 Help Forums

From the quick look I've had at the website, it seems that it's for beginners ^ ^ perfect for me, maybe not so perfect for people who know how to use the terminal, know the commands, piping and scripting.

How on earth did I miss that (old age sucks)? Thanks for waking me up.
I'm a rank amateur so this should be of help when I'm ready to start transitioning.

 

[TheDeerDude]

No worries! so many posts and pages, it's easy to miss something. It's not old age, it's being a human, haha ^ ^

 

[Brds7t7]

Ridiculous!

I really don't see how any of this is ridiculous? The point of the original post was to ask people what they're going to do after Windows 7 reaches EOL. Some people are going to continue using Windows, others aren't. Some users have perfectly good reasons to use Windows and others have perfectly good reasons not to. I really don't see how it's ridiculous when people are giving perfectly good advice and alternatives. Nobody is saying you must/mustn't use this or that OS. People are quite capable of making their own decisions.

I won't be using Windows 10, but I dislike when people try and shove down my throat why I should/shouldn't use it, just because they do or don't. It's personal preference, it's for me to decide - not them!

I come on here to give advice, but I don't order people what to do or what to use. Your post telling people what they can and can't talk about really isn't helping. There are moderators in these forums and if they feel it's a breach of the rules then they're free to remove posts, or shut down the conversation entirely if they deem it unsuitable.

The point of forums is to discuss. If everybody just said "we're going to continue using Windows", then this wouldn't be much of a discussion, would it?

Nobody has turned this into a Linux helpline/discussion board, they've just given their own opinions on what they're going to use.

So can we (all) please confine our remarks to making the Windows operating system work as best as possible, for all those who come here specifically for answers to Windows problems.

I believe this is for the Moderators to decide. The point of this thread wasn't set up to give people advice on specific Windows OS issues, it was posted in the "General Discussion" section to enquire what users will be using after 7 reaches EOL. So, I don't see how any of what has been discussed in this thread (apart from the occasional slice of friendly banter) should be considered not relevant to the discussion?? I see no reason why this discussion has wandered off topic, as the posts are still relevant to the original question.

Personally, I'm nowhere near ready to make a switch to Linux, which is why I'll be sticking with 7 for a while after EOL, then I'll continue to use 8.1 until its EOL. But, I have not ruled out Linux for future use, I just need to try it out a lot more before I decide what to do. I have a few years to make my decision, so I'm not too concerned about it just yet.

 

[Barman58]

There is nothing wrong with this thread, as long as it keeps Civil, and friendly, I see no issues to worry the forum Management

 

[lehnerus2000]

The topic here is what to do when Windows 7 reaches it's EOL. For 99.99% of Windows 7 users, it is not required for them to do anything. I certainly Won't!
Just like Windows XP went right on working long after its own EOL, Windows 7 will do no less.

There is something that people need to do when using an OS that is no longer supported.

They need to learn how to create regular Backup Images.

Tutorials
Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
Imaging with free Macrium

Given MS' woeful updates (this year) W7 could already be considered to be "End of Support".

I've rolled my PC back to December 2017 (a couple of weeks ago) and although I'm still downloading the Security Only updates, I've stopped installing them.

This means I have to rely on Backup Images (using Macrium Reflect Free Edition).


Another option is to convert an existing W7 install to a VM.
Macrium Reflect Images can be converted to VMs.

VMs can be easily copied to external storage.
Obviously people should only run copies of their VM.

VMs can be easily isolated from networks, so they should be protected from malware and rogue updates.

I run various VMs in VMware Player on a Linux Mint 18 Host, including:

• W10 Pro (1703) VM
• XP VM with old Windows games
• W7 VM with software development tools (Visual Studio, Android Studio, Netbeans, etc.)

I can also run most of my VMs in VMware Workstation 9 on W7 (including a LM18 VM).
VMware Workstation 9 won't run W10 VMs though.

 

[Botard]

I've been with linux for years, but the problem is my laptop isn't ready with linux, it's having proble with dedicated driver and power saving and some hotkeys that not working. The real problem is with the nVidia. It overheat alot, so in the end I stay with the OEM windows 7 and it stay there normaly and stable.

Many people and I before have tried Linux but later became frustrated and went back to windows. One Obvious reason is most devices are design for windows OS. It may able to run Linux but it cannot guarantee other device driver inside is going to work for a machine, perhaps other distro can for one thing or another. So for me, If I'm planning to buy a new device and want to use Linux, the best way is to find the device designs for it as well as the programs have to use. Linux is a free software, so there's nothing to complain about, neither expecting more support compared to Windows.

BUT the biggest BUG of all
They keep depracting old equipement and therefor driver support for it, saw yesterday another example
Because of this the next Upgrade fails. an unsupported device/driver error code would be handy
As for drivers on supported equipement, sheeesh, my Wifi card originally on a W8 machine keeps getting thrown the wrong one, have to pull in an alledgedly unsigned one from within the system

The claim for others that Windows 7 is the best shot released by Microsoft, is also referring the legacy code of windows 7. (I don't think if the legacy hardware was continued for Windows 8 & 10.) It made an old device compatible, stable and more secure than the previous version. The problem is, as torchwood did mentioned one, many programs are not certified by Microsoft due to money reason from small or individual developer. No offense but this is an example when a poor written driver corrupted other dependency driver made unstable other programs when ran or even the windows itself. This is happened as bunched of programs on Internet like a Freeware software easy to install everyday. On the other hand with security issue, Windows 7 is secure as Linux or Unix is. It vast popularity from several billions of users for Windows is the reason targeted to security. Criminals write malicious code for Windows expecting more profit for them in return. And Of coarse, the same case will happen to Linux if it is popular worldwide than Windows.

I have nothing to say about Windows 10 for now. Last year, I remembered when I went in the department of foreign affairs, I was surprised because all their PC on the front desk were upgraded to windows 10. Wow! They trusted Microsoft. No doubt Windows is very productive OS. I'll give my support to Windows as we have the program requires it. And at the end of Windows 7 EOL, my old windows machine( laptop) will be the safest machine that I'll be working for my critical files because it cannot (should not) go online.

A late reply for the thread, I've been busy and the following months as well.

Regards,
Botard

 

[bendipa]

Hello Marie SWE,

The more you use Linux the more you will learn and also belonging to a Linux forum can help a lot.

This link has been a good learning tool for myself and many others.

Home | Linux Journey

Apologies for the slight drift off topic.

I too have recently taken to Linux (dual booting with Windows 7). I have to say that some of these Linux forums (well at least one I'm thinking of) are not as helpful as one would expect. And I've seen plenty of incorrect advice given for areas I am already familiar with. Or complicated solutions for an issue seem to be given where a much simpler solution would have sufficed. Certainly once I'm sufficiently confident enough that I can do everything that I can already do with W7, and the latter becomes truly obsolete I will switch to Linux full time.

 

[pippox0]

I'm still using Xp and when Windows7 will EOL , i will continue to use it.
All i have done is to have a good backup sw and store backups, so in case i can restore.

 

[BenyaminL]

Many people and I before have tried Linux but later became frustrated and went back to windows. One Obvious reason is most devices are design for windows OS. It may able to run Linux but it cannot guarantee other device driver inside is going to work for a machine, perhaps other distro can for one thing or another. So for me, If I'm planning to buy a new device and want to use Linux, the best way is to find the device designs for it as well as the programs have to use. Linux is a free software, so there's nothing to complain about, neither expecting more support compared to Windows.


The claim for others that Windows 7 is the best shot released by Microsoft, is also referring the legacy code of windows 7. (I don't think if the legacy hardware was continued for Windows 8 & 10.) It made an old device compatible, stable and more secure than the previous version. The problem is, as torchwood did mentioned one, many programs are not certified by Microsoft due to money reason from small or individual developer. No offense but this is an example when a poor written driver corrupted other dependency driver made unstable other programs when ran or even the windows itself. This is happened as bunched of programs on Internet like a Freeware software easy to install everyday. On the other hand with security issue, Windows 7 is secure as Linux or Unix is. It vast popularity from several billions of users for Windows is the reason targeted to security. Criminals write malicious code for Windows expecting more profit for them in return. And Of coarse, the same case will happen to Linux if it is popular worldwide than Windows.

I have nothing to say about Windows 10 for now. Last year, I remembered when I went in the department of foreign affairs, I was surprised because all their PC on the front desk were upgraded to windows 10. Wow! They trusted Microsoft. No doubt Windows is very productive OS. I'll give my support to Windows as we have the program requires it. And at the end of Windows 7 EOL, my old windows machine( laptop) will be the safest machine that I'll be working for my critical files because it cannot (should not) go online.

A late reply for the thread, I've been busy and the following months as well.

Regards,
Botard

I agree with it. Just maybe my expection is too high.. hahaha.. I like to be arround linux, especially for development, but for now, on my university everyone develop using windows.. so I have no choice, maybe after graduate it will be a new journey hahaha... Thanks anyway.

New windows 10 after many updates seems start to mature enough to be called productive, I really hope a all day computing laptop, like asus novago and such.. but for now it's not available for my country, and also chromebook already leave the market last year,, I don't know why it happens, but seems it's not favorable for them, and as for now, I still like my windows 7 no matter what happend... I experienced driver problem and such and it back to normal, just by blink of eye, and many old office app(2010 pro) still working perfectly

 

[ceo54]

I have Windows 7 as well as Windows 8.1 on two systems and I'm not ready to give up either one. Windows 10 is a criminal act that Microsoft learned from the Google Heretics . Yes, the same Google, which doesn't let you to be an Admin on your own device as if the forced telemetry and updates were not enough. This is beyond insane. In 5 years of time, when my current hardware dies I'll move on to Linux.

 

[BenyaminL]

I have Windows 7 as well as Windows 8.1 on two systems and I'm not ready to give up either one. Windows 10 is a criminal act that Microsoft learned from the Google Heretics . Yes, the same Google, which doesn't let you to be an Admin on your own device as if the forced telemetry and updates were not enough. This is beyond insane. In 5 years of time, when my current hardware dies I'll move on to Linux.

I still hope my laptop could stay for 20 years (Ugh, maybe it seems soo old to be 20 year), but today I see many ads that promote user to move to a new HW event they don't need too, even their machine is fine and pretty usable and powerful (the only reason to move to new HW I think is power efficiency), that cause soo much waste.

Back to windows 7, still I hope they consider make w10 more mature and less telemetry, because even on HDD 7200rpm or even SAS, windows 10 not pretty fast.. dunno why.. but even with fresh install.. I just hate it, and make me stay with windows 7 for more time than now.