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Greetings.


Would it be possible to use a W7x86 system to perform disk image backup/restore operations on HDD that has W10x64 OS installed? And vice versa?


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Hi goopy,

Yes, provided your HDD is installed as a 2nd drive in your computer, or you have the correct hardware to connect the HDD via USB port. If you have access to the HDD, i.e. it shows up under Computer, then you can create an image of that drive.

Both Macrium and AOMEI perform that function, however, if you create an image with one, you cannot access or restore it from the other. Both backup programs are recommended by SevenForums members. I prefer AOMEI primarily because it had a more user friendly Graphical User Interface (GUI), thus easier to understand and navigate. You can always Google either and watch a video or two. Google is your friend!

If you have any additional questions, there are no bad questions, question away!

Nic
 

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Hi goopy,

.... if you create an image with one, you cannot access or restore it from the other. ....
Nic


Thanks for the kind reply, Nic.


1. Do you mean the w10 would not be able to "restore" a dis image of itself created by a w7 system to another HDD drive?


2. A related question: is there an issue with an image not recognised by new version of the software that created it? Running on different OS?



3. Is there a way to instruct the software to issue new disk signature during image creation/restore operation? What's the best way to deal with Disk ID conflict?


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1. Do you mean the w10 would not be able to "restore" a dis image of itself created by a w7 system to another HDD drive?

It means that if you make an image with Aomei- that aomei image cannot be restored by macrium.
If you make an image with macrium, that macrium image cannot be restored by Aomei.

2. A related question: is there an issue with an image not recognised by new version of the software that created it? Running on different OS?

There isn't an issue with either of those two working with their earlier images. Rarely a company will change their imaging format - paragon did so recently.


3. Is there a way to instruct the software to issue new disk signature during image creation/restore operation? What's the best way to deal with Disk ID conflict?

Most software deal with that automatically. There are a few programs that give you choice. I think Casper and O&O have options in that regard.
 

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Appears I need to be a little more detailed in posts.
 

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It means that if you make an image with Aomei- that aomei image cannot be restored by macrium.
If you make an image with macrium, that macrium image cannot be restored by Aomei.



There isn't an issue with either of those two working with their earlier images. Rarely a company will change their imaging format - paragon did so recently.




Most software deal with that automatically. There are a few programs that give you choice. I think Casper and O&O have options in that regard.


Thansk fro the kind reply SIW2.


What would be the usual practice of A/M users to ensure a new disk id is allocated when restoring an inage to new disk?
 

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SIW2, adding to your excellent advice, I'm finding out that presently creating DVD and USB boots that match the latest downloaded and installed backup/restore program upgrades seem to make any future restores smoother and less problematic regarding two backup/restore programs I use: Macrium Reflect and Image for Windows. When I do restores in the future, I'll see if IfW310 will restore an image made by IfW 320, and report back.
 

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Greetings,

Macrium had a webpage on disk id setting which I found confusing.
Any advice on how to ensure a new unique disk id is assigned when restoring an image?
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As far as I know, neither of those two programs give the user control of that.

There might be other programs that do.
 

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In the Macrium FAQ, it appears to say a new disk ID will be assigned of retoration results in ID conflict. However, it is less clear what happens when the target disk already has an ID. Can anyone clarify?


What about AOMEI?


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Guys, Gals, did I read an implied question somewhere? I've been gone awhile, quickly re-read this thread tonight, and I'm wondering if the following was also being asked: Can a backup of a 32-bit system be used to rejuvenate a 64-bit system? Can a backup of a 64-bit system be used to rejuvenate a 32-bit system? If I'm totally incorrect, advise, thanks! :)
 

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Guys, Gals, did I read an implied question somewhere? I've been gone awhile, quickly re-read this thread tonight, and I'm wondering if the following was also being asked: Can a backup of a 32-bit system be used to rejuvenate a 64-bit system? Can a backup of a 64-bit system be used to rejuvenate a 32-bit system? If I'm totally incorrect, advise, thanks! :)


Good question Roland.
The original question I had was can a 32bit system be used to do a backup of 64bit system. The answer is apparently affirmative.
 

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Rejuvenate? No.

It is possible to restore a complete image of a 64 bit OS onto a partition formerly housing a 32 bit OS. That is replacing, not rejuvenating.


Guys, Gals, did I read an implied question somewhere? I've been gone awhile, quickly re-read this thread tonight, and I'm wondering if the following was also being asked: Can a backup of a 32-bit system be used to rejuvenate a 64-bit system? Can a backup of a 64-bit system be used to rejuvenate a 32-bit system? If I'm totally incorrect, advise, thanks! :)
 

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  • Computer type
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    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
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    gigabyte b365m ds3h
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    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
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    cryorig m9i
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    7x64
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    ga b365m ds3h
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Thanks SIW2, your answer clearly indicates what I thought I understood is correct. Replace, not rejuvenate, is the key word.
 

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Is it considered good practice to have the OS perform an image backup of itself, ie C: drive plus the hidden ones? Or have it attached to another system and let the other do a backup?
I remember reading some backup operations need to be performed in DOS. But that appears not to be the case with Macrium. Any comments?
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Hi goopy,

I don't recommend letting Windows create Restore Points or System Images. When I've needed them, they've failed on more than one occasion. External Hard Drive for backups!

No backups don't need to be done from DOS. AOMEI Backupper Free and Macrium Reflect Free run from within windows or your can create recovery media, either USB Flash or CD/DVD.

Nic
 

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