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it randomly powers off as if i have unplugged it and I suspect its the power supply being overloaded JUUUUST enough for it to turn off after a while

so I have decided to go the new power supply route and get this
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BFJ91TY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07W4MKFV6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Power supply. and adapter to work with my computer. (Power supply itself is too large to fit so i'm just gonna have to deal with it dangling out the back of my computer sitting on my desk)
i'll probably use hot glue or something to glue the power supply somewhere on my computer case where its not in the way so its not just dangling around or sliding around my desk.
My computer is on my desk on its side (on its side is the normal way for my computer model)
and my monitor is sitting on top of the case.
I'm really bummed about having to waste money on a new power supply but the one that my pc came with just isnt good enough to handle maxed out upgrades.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Elite 8300 compaq SFF
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64
CPU
i7 3770k 3.5ghz up to 3.9ghz turbo boost 4 core 8 thread CPU
Motherboard
HP Elite 8300 compaq SFF OEM board
Memory
32GB 4x8GB DDR3 1600mhz CL9 patriot viper gaming ram
Graphics Card(s)
ZOTAC GTX 1650 low profile overclocked GPU
Sound Card
realtek integrated HD audio
Monitor(s) Displays
23" acer gaming 144hz 1ms monitor
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 @120hz/144hz
Hard Drives
ADATA 128GB SSD
ADAtA 256GB SSD
x1 Seagate 250GB 7200 RPM drive
x1 Seagate 500GB 7200 RPM drive
PSU
430w thermaltake smart
Case
HP Elite 8300 compaq SFF
Cooling
Stock + new thermal paste
Keyboard
REDRAGON mechanical blue switch
Mouse
ZELOTES wired T-90 mouse
Internet Speed
10MB/s (80mbps) download good internet
Antivirus
in-use/other
Browser
IE11 + firefox + Google Chrome randomly switches between
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Info updated

power supply doesnt fit but still works with adapter its just sitting on the desk behind the computer wires going into the case where the old power supply was.
for now I have unplugged 2 hard drives and unplugged my dedicated graphics card and went to using integrated graphics until I get my new power supply. I scanned both my two hard drives in my pc doing full check disk and check for bad sectors and came up clean no problems luckily
Is it ok to just dangle a power supply out of my computer if it wont fit and I dont mind the uglyness? as long as it works?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Elite 8300 compaq SFF
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64
CPU
i7 3770k 3.5ghz up to 3.9ghz turbo boost 4 core 8 thread CPU
Motherboard
HP Elite 8300 compaq SFF OEM board
Memory
32GB 4x8GB DDR3 1600mhz CL9 patriot viper gaming ram
Graphics Card(s)
ZOTAC GTX 1650 low profile overclocked GPU
Sound Card
realtek integrated HD audio
Monitor(s) Displays
23" acer gaming 144hz 1ms monitor
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 @120hz/144hz
Hard Drives
ADATA 128GB SSD
ADAtA 256GB SSD
x1 Seagate 250GB 7200 RPM drive
x1 Seagate 500GB 7200 RPM drive
PSU
430w thermaltake smart
Case
HP Elite 8300 compaq SFF
Cooling
Stock + new thermal paste
Keyboard
REDRAGON mechanical blue switch
Mouse
ZELOTES wired T-90 mouse
Internet Speed
10MB/s (80mbps) download good internet
Antivirus
in-use/other
Browser
IE11 + firefox + Google Chrome randomly switches between
Other Info
Info updated

power supply doesnt fit but still works with adapter its just sitting on the desk behind the computer wires going into the case where the old power supply was.
Before you even committed to buying a new PSU you should have chimed in here. I could probably find a SFF PSU that meets your power requirements.

Another thing is that sometimes if it's not the PSU, it could be a sticky or faulty power button.

You can use any number of PSU wattage calculators on the net to help figure out the approximate wattage needed. I like this site myself: Power Supply Calculator - PSU Calculator | OuterVision
 
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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Well, I determined you need at least 390 watts using that PSU wattage calculator. So I looked around trying to find a SFF (Small Form Factor) PSU for your specific case at that wattage or above without luck. Trouble with SFF computers is that their PSUs are very limited and these computers are really not meant for gaming but mostly the corporate/office environment. Placing a normal tower case PSU next to your computer will work, but the chassis that the PSU is bolted to provides ground. So perhaps you could screw in a wire to the PSU screw hole and mount that line to your case metal somewhere as a ground. Or simply keep the PSU butt up against metal on your case. A ground wire to the computer chassis would be the better way to go.


Find the right size for the PSU screw chassis mount. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...1.TRC1.A0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=Ring+Terminal&_sacat=0

Then search eBay for the right size gauge wire for the ring terminal.

You may need one of these or go the poor man route and use a pliers to squeeze the ring connector on the wire. Although, you'll need to be able to strip the wire. Error Page | eBay
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
HP 8300 elite SFF has a weird L-shaped power supply where half the power supply is like a slab and cut off to make room for the hard drive underneath and stuff. dont think that would work

I'll just run an alligator clip to it that will probably be good enough.
My computer PSU right now doesnt even screw in. it just sorta hooks and slots into place.

Pretty much no standard ATX/micro ATX or mini ATX or flex power supply will fit in my computer
my only option is to dangle the power supply out the back of my computer and run a ground cable and run the wires through the opening in my case. and bolt or glue the power supply somewhere on my computer case. hoping the cables are long enough (they should be they look pretty long in the image for the PSU i ordered)
I was thinking a simple idea. hot glue gun and alligator clip.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Elite 8300 compaq SFF
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64
CPU
i7 3770k 3.5ghz up to 3.9ghz turbo boost 4 core 8 thread CPU
Motherboard
HP Elite 8300 compaq SFF OEM board
Memory
32GB 4x8GB DDR3 1600mhz CL9 patriot viper gaming ram
Graphics Card(s)
ZOTAC GTX 1650 low profile overclocked GPU
Sound Card
realtek integrated HD audio
Monitor(s) Displays
23" acer gaming 144hz 1ms monitor
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 @120hz/144hz
Hard Drives
ADATA 128GB SSD
ADAtA 256GB SSD
x1 Seagate 250GB 7200 RPM drive
x1 Seagate 500GB 7200 RPM drive
PSU
430w thermaltake smart
Case
HP Elite 8300 compaq SFF
Cooling
Stock + new thermal paste
Keyboard
REDRAGON mechanical blue switch
Mouse
ZELOTES wired T-90 mouse
Internet Speed
10MB/s (80mbps) download good internet
Antivirus
in-use/other
Browser
IE11 + firefox + Google Chrome randomly switches between
Other Info
Info updated

power supply doesnt fit but still works with adapter its just sitting on the desk behind the computer wires going into the case where the old power supply was.
If you glue the PSU to the top of your computer you won't be able to get in your computer should you need to replace hardware like a hard drive.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
I'm not gonna glue it to the side cover lol. i'm talking about the like one of the other free sides.

Plus hot glue comes off effortlessly if you get a little rubbing alcohol on it.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Elite 8300 compaq SFF
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64
CPU
i7 3770k 3.5ghz up to 3.9ghz turbo boost 4 core 8 thread CPU
Motherboard
HP Elite 8300 compaq SFF OEM board
Memory
32GB 4x8GB DDR3 1600mhz CL9 patriot viper gaming ram
Graphics Card(s)
ZOTAC GTX 1650 low profile overclocked GPU
Sound Card
realtek integrated HD audio
Monitor(s) Displays
23" acer gaming 144hz 1ms monitor
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 @120hz/144hz
Hard Drives
ADATA 128GB SSD
ADAtA 256GB SSD
x1 Seagate 250GB 7200 RPM drive
x1 Seagate 500GB 7200 RPM drive
PSU
430w thermaltake smart
Case
HP Elite 8300 compaq SFF
Cooling
Stock + new thermal paste
Keyboard
REDRAGON mechanical blue switch
Mouse
ZELOTES wired T-90 mouse
Internet Speed
10MB/s (80mbps) download good internet
Antivirus
in-use/other
Browser
IE11 + firefox + Google Chrome randomly switches between
Other Info
Info updated

power supply doesnt fit but still works with adapter its just sitting on the desk behind the computer wires going into the case where the old power supply was.
YIIIIIKEEEES!!!!!!!!!! HOLY CRAP
It was such a good idea to upgrade my power supply!
When I took the old one out I noticed the power pin connectors were darkened on the some of the ground wires noticably! for the motherboard mostly (a six pin connector) and slightly for the CPU connector. SCARY STUFF! its a miracle its been working as long as it has already!
I got the new power supply installed and set up and working and it seems to work great!
All hard drives getting their own dedicated sata cable directly from the power supply.
And the CPU and motherboard also getting their own power cables too!
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Elite 8300 compaq SFF
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64
CPU
i7 3770k 3.5ghz up to 3.9ghz turbo boost 4 core 8 thread CPU
Motherboard
HP Elite 8300 compaq SFF OEM board
Memory
32GB 4x8GB DDR3 1600mhz CL9 patriot viper gaming ram
Graphics Card(s)
ZOTAC GTX 1650 low profile overclocked GPU
Sound Card
realtek integrated HD audio
Monitor(s) Displays
23" acer gaming 144hz 1ms monitor
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 @120hz/144hz
Hard Drives
ADATA 128GB SSD
ADAtA 256GB SSD
x1 Seagate 250GB 7200 RPM drive
x1 Seagate 500GB 7200 RPM drive
PSU
430w thermaltake smart
Case
HP Elite 8300 compaq SFF
Cooling
Stock + new thermal paste
Keyboard
REDRAGON mechanical blue switch
Mouse
ZELOTES wired T-90 mouse
Internet Speed
10MB/s (80mbps) download good internet
Antivirus
in-use/other
Browser
IE11 + firefox + Google Chrome randomly switches between
Other Info
Info updated

power supply doesnt fit but still works with adapter its just sitting on the desk behind the computer wires going into the case where the old power supply was.
Good you fond a solution.
Please mark this thread as Solved.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 HP 64
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
    1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
Over the past decade, I've bought three different PSU testers, as the technology has changed.
That's an invaluable tool for Technicians or technically minded PC enthusiasts.


Whenever I remove a PSU from a PC, I always take it apart, just to see how many Bulging Capacitors there are. The PSU fans are usually of pretty high quality and I save them to possibly use for Case fans, etc.


What used to really gripe me, was the number of cheap PC's that came out with PSU's rated at less than 200 watts. I won't even waste my money on any PSU today, of less than 500 Watts.



Whenever I'm deep enough into a PC to change a PSU, I also install a new CMOS battery. As habits go, it's a very Good One!


Cheers Mates!
TM :cool:
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Various
OS
Win 7 Pro, SP1, x86, Win-11/Pro/64
CPU
AMD
Motherboard
Various
Memory
8GB Crucial
Graphics Card(s)
Various
Sound Card
OnBoard
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 21.5"
Hard Drives
Crucial SSD, 500 GB
PSU
OEM
Case
SFF Slim Line Case
Cooling
OEM
Keyboard
eMachines
Mouse
Logitech Wireless
Internet Speed
varies
Antivirus
Windows Defender/Super Anti-Spyware
Browser
Firefox
The PSU I got was a 430W one but it seems to work great.
I added a spare fan in the opening where the old PSU used to be to help exhaust any hot air out of the PC I just used a sheet of cardboard cut into shape and hot glued the fan to the cardboard. and stuffed it in place so it stays neatly. leaving a cutout for the PSU wires to come through. seems to work great.
but my only issue is every time I boot up my PC I get power supply fan error and i have to hit enter every time to continue but theres no bios options to ignore that.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Elite 8300 compaq SFF
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64
CPU
i7 3770k 3.5ghz up to 3.9ghz turbo boost 4 core 8 thread CPU
Motherboard
HP Elite 8300 compaq SFF OEM board
Memory
32GB 4x8GB DDR3 1600mhz CL9 patriot viper gaming ram
Graphics Card(s)
ZOTAC GTX 1650 low profile overclocked GPU
Sound Card
realtek integrated HD audio
Monitor(s) Displays
23" acer gaming 144hz 1ms monitor
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 @120hz/144hz
Hard Drives
ADATA 128GB SSD
ADAtA 256GB SSD
x1 Seagate 250GB 7200 RPM drive
x1 Seagate 500GB 7200 RPM drive
PSU
430w thermaltake smart
Case
HP Elite 8300 compaq SFF
Cooling
Stock + new thermal paste
Keyboard
REDRAGON mechanical blue switch
Mouse
ZELOTES wired T-90 mouse
Internet Speed
10MB/s (80mbps) download good internet
Antivirus
in-use/other
Browser
IE11 + firefox + Google Chrome randomly switches between
Other Info
Info updated

power supply doesnt fit but still works with adapter its just sitting on the desk behind the computer wires going into the case where the old power supply was.
Whenever I remove a PSU from a PC, I always take it apart


Be very careful when you do that. Even when a PSU has been pulled from a computer it has a very large charge and can zap you. If I remember right, if you connect the green and black wire you can jump the PSU. That way you can help discharge the capacitors of their charge.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
but my only issue is every time I boot up my PC I get power supply fan error and i have to hit enter every time to continue but theres no bios options to ignore that.


It's probably due to the fact the original PSU had a sensor cable for the fan for that motherboard. Since you are using a PSU not designed for your computer there is an absence of that sensor cable.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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